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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
I am pretty pro-Police an pro-Military but this is just wrong. Oh boy this cop was karma'd, is that a word?


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...C?OpenDocument


http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=5459
post #2 of 24
No- not EVERY single cop is an outstanding person- but starting threads like this certainly do nothing to support the good ones out there who greatly outnumber the corrupt ones. You know -the ones who help keep our cities safe and protect people....ones like my fiance. Threads like this really irk me because they focus soo much on the negative out there and fail to ever acknowledge good cops and all of the positive things they do to help out others.
post #3 of 24
Hmmmm...yes, let's go out and shine up the halos of those in law enforcement who are just doing their JOBS, and not report about bad cops so that all those other bad cops can continue to go about under the radar.

Give me a break!

Cops are HUMAN, and there are many more of them out there that are corrupt than one may suspect. Personally, I think reporting this kind of thing puts corrupt law enforcement on notice: Abuse of power will NOT be tolerated.
post #4 of 24
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Hmmmm...yes, let's go out and shine up the halos of those in law enforcement who are just doing their JOBS, and not report about bad cops so that all those other bad cops can continue to go about under the radar.

Give me a break!

Cops are HUMAN, and there are many more of them out there that are corrupt than one may suspect. Personally, I think reporting this kind of thing puts corrupt law enforcement on notice: Abuse of power will NOT be tolerated.
I don't think there was anything wrong with posting those links. Obviously everyone knows there are both good cops and bad cops!
post #5 of 24
wow, that is just awful, in fact that's sickening. Since we're on the topic of "bad" cops
http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/9714992.html

I totally agree with you Betsy, I think there are many corrupt cops out there and the blue wall or whatever they call it stops this stuff from being exposed. Good on this kid for having a camera in his car.

oh, and he DID have his turn signal on when he entered the parking lot
post #6 of 24
That sounds like a badge-heavy guy from a small town - I know the type, but fortunately he's not representative of all cops.

There are "bad eggs", though. I posted about my b-i-l and his family members being constant victims of racial profiling not so long ago. Unfortunately, I've got yet another example of it from the same area.

My younger niece, who is and definitely looks "Anglo", bought a car from a Mexican immigrant while I was visiting. It had a Madonna (as in Blessed Virgin, Mother of God) decal in the back window, which is apparently very common on cars belonging to Mexican(-American)s, at least in NE, and everybody told her she should lose it. She didn't want to on principle, but after two stops within one week, one of which was a rather nasty encounter with a very badge-heavy young cop from a small town, she scraped the decal off.

Yes, the police chief got a phone call about it.
post #7 of 24
There are good and bad in every profession. I doubt law enforcement has any more than others. Some people just picked the wrong career. And other people wouldn't be good at anything they did. Being in the public eye, bad cops probably get more scrutiny than bad accountants or bad lawyers. And I suppose that's a good thing. Bad cops should be found out. I wish some other professions had the close attention of the public eye. I suppose I could name a few, but that would be off-topic.
post #8 of 24
Here's another, from yesterday, about Boston Cops pleading GUILTY to dealing drugs.

Seriously, why NOT start threads like this?!?!

There is no glossing over the fact that corruption exists everywhere, and just because someone (like Colin, the fiance cop) wears a badge, that does NOT mean that they are above the law.

Cases like these are NOT negative, in fact, they are a positive indicator that losers like these bad cops are being held to the same standards and laws that they purport to uphold and enforce!
post #9 of 24
Rob was watching that video last night. I couldn't believe some of the things I was hearing.

I believe there are both good cops and bad cops. There are always a few bad apples that make the good officers look bad. We have come across many-a-good cops, many who've let us off with a warning, or just gave us a little lecture if we did something stupid (ie: Rob chirping the tires of the truck in anger leaving a parking lot - the officer just told him it was stupid and not to do it again).

Then there's the bad ones who make threats and stupid accusations they think (or maybe know?) will hold up because they are officers of the law. Recently we were pulled over by a cop from another county/town. He was going off on a rampage about taking Rob's license away and putting him in jail for 6 months and impounding our car, yadda ya, for about 15 minutes, just waiting for an on-duty, Summerville officer to come by. Again, over something pretty dumb, seeing as a bunch of other people were doing it, and do it everyday. We were the unlucky ones who got stopped by him.
post #10 of 24
Well, the motorist wasn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier telling the irrationally angry officer he'd assaulted a cop!!! As for the cop, he doesn't even sound like a cop -- is this for real?
post #11 of 24
Thread Starter 
Starry, believe me, I have the utmost respect and admiration for the 90% of good cops and Military in this country.
post #12 of 24
Hmm...St. George; well that's not surprising. It's not really a small town, but a suburb of St. Louis County, and they are known for getting all their funding from writing speeding tickets. Whole area is a speed trap; you do not go even one mile over the speed limit.

I was wondering if that cop was high. He sounded nuts at times! I wish there weren't cops out there like it, because they give all the good ones a bad name.

Tricia
post #13 of 24
There are bad police officers, but I really do believe they are in the minority, yet the actions of the few always seem to be in the spotlight.

Dear Mr. Citizen:

It seems you have figured me out. I seem to fit neatly into the category where you placed me. I'm stereotyped, standardized, characterized, classified, grouped, and always typical. I'm the "lousy cop". Unfortunately, the reverse is true..I can never figure you out.

From birth you teach your children that I am a person to be aware of, and then you are shocked when they identify me with my traditional enemy...the criminal.

You accuse me of coddling juveniles, until I catch your kid doing something.

You may take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks each day, but point me out as a loafer if you see me having just one cup.

You pride yourself on your polished manners, but think nothing of interrupting my meals at noon with your troubles.

You raise hell with the person who cuts you off in traffic, but let me catch you doing the same thing and I'm picking on you. You know all the traffic laws...but you never got one single ticket you deserved.

You shout "FOUL!!" if you observe me driving fast, en route to an emergency call, but literally raise hell if I take more than ten seconds responding to your call.

You call it "part of my duty" if someone strikes me. But it's "police brutality" if I strike back.

You wouldn't think of telling your dentist how to pull a badly decayed tooth, or a doctor how to take out your appendix, but you are always giving me pointers on law enforcement.

You talk to me in a manner and use language that would assure a bloody nose from anyone else, but you expect me to stand there and take it without batting an eye.

You say "something has to be done about all the crime", but you can't be bothered with getting involved.

You've got no use for me at all, but of course, it's OK if I change a tire for your wife, or deliver a baby on the back seat of my squad car on the way to the hospital, or save your son's life with mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, or work many hours of overtime to find your lost daughter.

So, Dear Citizen, you stand there on your soap box and rant and rave about the way I do my job, calling me every name in the book, but never stop to think that your property, your family, or maybe your life might depend on one thing...me or one of my buddies.

Yes, Mr. Citizen, it's me......The Lousy Cop!

(Author unknown)
post #14 of 24
Nikki, I think we all know that bad cops are in the minority, but like others have said, not talking about it and just brushing the bad aspects under the carpet is what allows the bad cops to continue in their behaviour - that would be the reason for internal affairs etc in the police force.

Personally, I think we have some really good cops around here, from talking down a suicidal teenager from the multi storey carpark to someone standing outside my building to remind some mothers that the crosswalk 100 feet away is there for a reason, they do a great job on things other than 'crime'. But that does not stop the fact that there are bad cops out there and they do need to be caught and punished like the criminals the good cops deal with on a daily basis.
post #15 of 24
I didn't know Colin was a cop?!?
post #16 of 24
Of course there are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good teachers and bad teachers, good doctors and bad doctors and good presidents and bad presidents.

I have lived in a town with a corrupt Chief of Police. It was a long time ago and I think for the most part, cops are good. I have rarely seen them driving the speed limit though.
post #17 of 24
Thread Starter 
I like that "Dear Citizen" letter and believe every word of it.

But, I also remember "Serpico"

Since when is law enforcement above being criticized?
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I like that "Dear Citizen" letter and believe every word of it.

But, I also remember "Serpico"

Since when is law enforcement above being criticized?
I'm not sure I would agree that with you. I don't think anyone was saying that law enforcement is above being criticized. Nikki is engaged to one of the good guys and may well feel more personal about criticism that you or I.

Like Icklemiss, I live in the Toronto area and believe we have one of the finest police forces in the world (yes, I said WORLD). That's not to say we don't have bad or corrupt police because we do have some. Fortunately they are in the minority and are dealt with accordingly. Our SIU are a good organization and I believe in our police.

But, like everything else in life, the bad behaviour gets the attention. Take two children - one badly behaved and one good - who's getting the attention?
post #19 of 24
But I think even Nikki would acknowledge that bad cops 'hurt' (politically, in the media and in the line of duty) the good cops and they do need to be dealt with and the media to show they are being dealt with. There are bad people in every profession and if the media did not report the bad cops, then it would just prove that the whole police force is more corrupt (by hiding it) than if it is reported.
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I like that "Dear Citizen" letter and believe every word of it.

But, I also remember "Serpico"

Since when is law enforcement above being criticized?

I don't see the Dear Citizen letter as saying we are above criticism, but more of a tongue in cheek way of pointing out the irony of it all.
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
No- not EVERY single cop is an outstanding person- but starting threads like this certainly do nothing to support the good ones out there who greatly outnumber the corrupt ones. You know -the ones who help keep our cities safe and protect people....ones like my fiance. Threads like this really irk me because they focus soo much on the negative out there and fail to ever acknowledge good cops and all of the positive things they do to help out others.
Yeah well how are things suppose to change if cops are not outed on what there doing. There are a ton of jerk cops out there that need to be recorded and posted all over the internet. What really irks me is when cops think they can get away with anything because they are cops. This has been happening for years and finally with the power of technology people are starting to realize that although there are many cops that are good and fair there are also are many that are dirty jerks. Thanks to those who post threads like this. It is about time some of the dirty cops are exposed and thanks to the good cops who don't take advantage of their authority.
post #22 of 24
I have a lot respect for that police department since the policeman's superiors agree that there is a problem, and are willing to deal with it.

The bottom line is some people just shouldn't have the kind of power police have. If someone is a bully, or has anger issues, he/she should never go into any kind of work where they have authority over the general public. I know they give psychological tests in the police academy, but people can still "fool" them, or sometimes the pressure they deal with day to day can make them snap. I think the sooner the superiors are made aware of that problem the better so it doesn't cause more damage to the department or to the community.

I am 100% percent behind our police department. I have the total respect for cops and the few times I have had to deal with them in a professional sense (speeding only) they have been great. But, if one started talking to me like that? I would have reported it in a minute!!
post #23 of 24
Unfortunately power hungry people tend to gravitate toward professions where they can abuse power.

The good news is that abusive police officers ARE news. If most of them were abusive or corrupt that would be the norm and not worth reporting.

L.A. police don't have such a good reputation -- especially relating to minorities. In fairness, though, the department is working hard to correct that.
post #24 of 24
Yup everyone has bad apples. I heard of cops giving fans of the opposing team the middle finger from his squad car. But I think the good cops far out number the bad cops.
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