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I'm a new daddy !!!!

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
Well, adoptive daddy - and not just yet, BUT, those are the TWO cutest beings in the World I will be bringing home in about a month !

The breeder just sent me in the pictures. I had expressed a wish for a blue point, and her or his closest brother/sister. I've often seen kitten that are already very close in the liter at the very beginning, and since I wanted two, I thought adopting two inseparable sisters in this case would be amazing ! Turns out I'm getting both a blue and seal point!

I mean seriously, HOW cute can they get?











I can't wait to bring them home! I've got Da Bird toys, Sleepy pods, Drinkwell Foutain, a 6ft hight Condo, scratch pads, Litter-Robot and some dozen other toys ! I'll love them so much they'll feel spoiled from the luv!

Sorry for sharing yet again some pictures and flooding the forum, I've been following the mother since June, who gave birth in August, and calling the Breeder in once a week and asking for pictures to see them grow until I can take them home... I think she likes me
post #2 of 25
They're adorable.

Two of my babies were inseparable Sisters.
Gracie and my rainbow bridge baby Lizzie were Sisters.
The love they had for each other was amazing to see, they wanted to be together all the time, where one went the other followed.

I hope that your Girls have the life long bond and love for each other that Gracie and Lizzie did.
It really is a beautiful thing to see when they are that close.
post #3 of 25
they are gorgeous ,I bet you can't wait, to bring those pretty girls home
post #4 of 25
Awww they are so cute - have you picked out names?
post #5 of 25
Thread Starter 
Yes ! I did The blue point is named Cybele, or Cybela...

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Originally a Phrygian goddess, Cybele (Greek: Κυβέλη) was a deification of the Earth Mother. She embodies the fertile earth, a goddess of caverns and mountains, walls and fortresses,
nature, wild animals, more or less the force of life and nature.
Since Cybele was quite the dynamo of the whole liter, I thought this name suited her well

The other little cuttie is named Freyja...

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In Norse Mythology and Germanic Mythology, Freyja (sometimes anglicized as Freya) is sister of Freyr and daughter of Njord. She was portrayed as a goddess of fertility, love, beauty, and attraction. Freyja is cited as being one of the prettiest diety. She had blue eyes and blonde hair, and was one of the most popular goddess of her time.''
post #6 of 25
They are beautiful! The one of them holding paws is just too cute.
I am sure they will grow up to suit such regal names.
post #7 of 25
Awwww look at those precious little baby girls ....... and what beautiful names you have picked out for them ...... I hope you keep us updated with pics from the breeder and then of course here while we watch them grow.
post #8 of 25
They are adorable! I am excited for you.

I have to admit that the third picture is my favorite!
post #9 of 25
oooooh they are so cute! Congrats on being a Furparent.
post #10 of 25
Aww... what sweet babies. I love their big blue eyes!
post #11 of 25
They're beautiful! And they're holding hands... awwwwww....
post #12 of 25
Hold on to your hat, my friend, cuz your world is about to change drastically! *wink*

Welcome to the Wonderful World of Being Owned By Siamese. You'll never be the same again.

They are fine looking kits, healthy-looking and robust! And such grand names! I hope they live up to their namesakes!
post #13 of 25
Freyja also has a wagon that's pulled by two huge cats in the myths so she has a connection to cats

It's also a very common female name back in Iceland, I don't think I've seen a cat with it before though.

Anyway the kittens and adorable and it sounds like you'll be an excellent caretaker for these two
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
Their first appointment at the vet for their vaccine recall (1 month after the first shot) has been taken ... but I have more pressing questions now:

1- I'll be feeding them dry Royal Canin food until they are around 6 months old and switch to Orijen after that. Is the Vet product line of Royal Canin superior or equal to retail products?

2- Obviously, no declawing for me !!! I've got a 6 feet Condo with sisal rope everywhere and a few scratchpads... however, is there a technique to show kitten not to scratch when playing or holding them ?

3- How soon should I have them neutered? Obviously it's not too important as they're both females and they'll be indoor cats, however Siamese are known to have long and very repetitive heat periods... and they cry a LOT. I'd prefer to avoid that ...

4- How often do I need to spay them?

5- Aside a spray-wash bottle to "punish" them for a bad action, what else is acceptable (say if they bite or scratch you for no apparent reason and the bottle is not at reach ... I'd rather not slap them :

6- Can I love them too much?
post #15 of 25
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1- I'll be feeding them dry Royal Canin food until they are around 6 months old and switch to Orijen after that. Is the Vet product line of Royal Canin superior or equal to retail products?
I don't think there is a difference in the regular products, but some lines of food have a "prescription-only" type - that would be different. But I don't think there is any difference in what you can buy in the regular products and in the regular products the vet sells.

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2- Obviously, no declawing for me !!! I've got a 6 feet Condo with sisal rope everywhere and a few scratchpads... however, is there a technique to show kitten not to scratch when playing or holding them ?
What I did was to take them to the scratching post, stretch their little legs up onto the post and show them how to make the movements. They caught right on and I haven't had a problem since (totally avoiding any glance whatsoever at my black La-Z-Boy recliner). When playing with them, never use your hands as a toy - always have something they CAN scratch and claw at ... and replace toys frequently. Siamese get bored quickly and variety is the spice of life for them.

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3- How soon should I have them neutered? Obviously it's not too important as they're both females and they'll be indoor cats, however Siamese are known to have long and very repetitive heat periods... and they cry a LOT. I'd prefer to avoid that ...
Kittens can be sexually altered as soon as your vet feels comfortable with doing the procedure. Many still like to wait until they are 6 months old, but if they are healthy and of a good weight, many will go ahead younger than that. Also, there are many vets who will perform a pediatric spay/neuter at as young as 8 to 12 weeks of age. Check with your trusted vet and see what his/her preference may be.

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4- How often do I need to spay them?
Only once. See number 3 above.

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5- Aside a spray-wash bottle to "punish" them for a bad action, what else is acceptable (say if they bite or scratch you for no apparent reason and the bottle is not at reach ... I'd rather not slap them :
Most Siamese do not respond well to a spray bottle or any other sort of discipline. What I found to work best in my home was a "time-out". When someone misbehaves, they go into my bedroom by themselves. Siamese are extremely social beings and being confined by themselves is enough of a shock to stop the behavior. Don't do it for long though ... 10 or so minutes is well enough. Never, Ever slap them or hit them ... this will only allow them to become afraid of your hands.

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6- Can I love them too much?
Absolutely not!
post #16 of 25
1- I'll be feeding them dry Royal Canin food until they are around 6 months old and switch to Orijen after that. Is the Vet product line of Royal Canin superior or equal to retail products?

Is there a reason why you want them on dry food and not wet. Wet is actually better for them.

2- Obviously, no declawing for me !!! I've got a 6 feet Condo with sisal rope everywhere and a few scratchpads... however, is there a technique to show kitten not to scratch when playing or holding them ?

Dont play with them with your hands, but with toys. If they happen to scratch you, just put them down and they will learn when they scratch, playtime ends.

3- How soon should I have them neutered? Obviously it's not too important as they're both females and they'll be indoor cats, however Siamese are known to have long and very repetitive heat periods... and they cry a LOT. I'd prefer to avoid that ...

Some vets will spay/neuter after they reach 2 LBS and some wait until 6 months being the latest. A female can get pregnant as young as 4 months.

4- How often do I need to spay them?

Once. It lasts a lifetime.

5- Aside a spray-wash bottle to "punish" them for a bad action, what else is acceptable (say if they bite or scratch you for no apparent reason and the bottle is not at reach ... I'd rather not slap them :

I would strongly suggest you NOT use the spray bottle. Water in a cats ear can cause infections and aiming to NEVER get water in the ear is not easy. Cats are not to be "punished" ....just put them down or remove them from whatever it is that you are not wanting them to do. Cats are very smart and with positive and calm guidance they will learn what is good and what is not.

6- Can I love them too much?
Never!
post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 
I'm sort of hoping question 6 was understood to be sarcastic ... but ok, moving on

I think I misused the word spaying... English isn't my mothertongue, so I'm missing on some technical vocabulary fields. What I meant was, don't I have to sort of treat them against worms and infections during their early life cycle like every 6 weeks ? I was told the medicine is given under prescription and is usually in a small bottle and the liquid is yellow...

I was also told dry food was better for teeth development of kitten and cats in general, especially Siamese ? Orijen as far as I know does not offer wet food as well... I might have been mistaken though...
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
I'd appreciate a response on that wet versus dry food debate?
post #19 of 25
It is my understanding that bones/dry food do indeed help dogs keep their teeth clean, but cats don't do the same type of "chewing" as dogs and dry food really doesn't help their teeth & gums that much at all. It's better to feed wet, I think, because it's better for their kidneys. I feed a combination of good quality wet and dry, and my kitties seem quite healthy. But I really think it's the wet that makes their coats so beautiful, soft, and shiny.
post #20 of 25
Thread Starter 
What brands are considered quality like Orijen and Royal Canin in the wet kind of food?
post #21 of 25
I buy Merricks, Tiki Cat, and Artemis. Sometimes Wellness. Other good ones would be probably Felidae, Evangers, Instinct...

This is all sort of my opinion, although I do know that we switched from what's considered a bad canned food, and my kitties stay satisfied for much longer and look better.
post #22 of 25
I am not of the opinion that dry food is at all good for our cats. With the extremely high amounts of grain (especially corn) in most and after having cared for 3 cats over the years who were diabetic and couldn't ingest that much corn, I don't like it at all. I have never in my life seen a cat in the wild walk into a corn field, shuck himself an ear and chow down. I have seen them stalk and kill small mammals - they are carnivores, not herbivores. However, the fact is that dry food ~is~ a very practical and convenient approach for many cat owners and something we like to use for those reasons. If I had my druthers about it, I wouldn't feed it at all.

The generally-accepted way of thinking about dry food was that it would help to dislodge tarter from the teeth. However, this theory fails to recognize that for the most part, cats do not chew their food. Sure, some might crunch a piece of dry food to make it smaller to swallow, but they do not masticate like we do. They normally swallow small pieces of dry food whole. (Ever seen a pile of binge-and-purge cat hurl??) I know that in the Siamese as a breed, gingivitis and other gum issues are rampant in the breed's lines. When you already have a whole breed of cats susceptible to such problems and then you give them a dry pet food with the nutritional content of junk food, those problems are exponentially increased. The dry food leaves a residue on the teeth which provides a very hospitable breeding ground for bacterial growth. That bacteria, if not removed and treated with regular dental cleanings and when necessary, a thorough sub-gingival scraping is linked to causing secondary systemic infections - and they quickly attack the renal system, shutting down the kidneys, leading to a very short life-span.

Be careful with using a lot of dry food in the diet of a pedigreed Siamese cat.
post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
Orijen proudly advertise their dryfood is 0% Grain ... see www.orijen.com for their products... I was told it's top of the line.

I don't mind feeding wet at all, I always thought it was healthier!
post #24 of 25
hope you have some ear plugs!! my siamese boy winston just loves to chit chat!! i can on imagine having two of him.. ahhh
post #25 of 25
One of the bonus of dry food (which is the main reason I feed some dry in addition to wet) is that you can use it to help keep cats occupied.

I.e you can get treat ball like these: http://www.petdiscounters.com/mc_ima...age/d_1991.jpg and then put the dry food inside and the cat will have to roll the ball around to get the food to fall out.

I have an insanely active cat and have to feed all her dry food through balls like those to help keep her occupied.
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