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Whoopi defends Vick

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
My gosh I just read this on another site. This is disgusting that she trivializes what Vick did by saying and I will quote this:

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Goldberg pointed out that Vick was raised in the South.

"This is part of his cultural upbringing," said Goldberg.
Give me a break I was born and raised in the South and there is dang way I was taught that this behavior is ok. Are you kidding me. She just throws this big blanket statement out there like all people from the South think this is ok and its not true.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14040573/detail.html
post #2 of 21
Thread Starter 
Also apparently Jaime Foxx defends Vick as well:

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index....s_michael_vick
post #3 of 21
There were also people who lynched people until recently. If it was part of their "cultural" upbringing, do we excuse it?
post #4 of 21
I most certainly do not agree that Vick's involvement with Dogfighting had anything to do with his Southern cultural upbringing. It had everything to do with his enjoyment of the "sport" and total disregard for life.
post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 
Here is a clip of it online. I still say sheis defending it. But you watch and decide for yourselves.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=5231
post #6 of 21
My impression is that she's not defending his actions, but trying to put them into some sort of social context. She obviously saw the same CNN/Headline News report I did that compared and contrasted dog fighting in the (rural) South and in major U.S. cities. It's a valid, if unpopular, point to make, as the example she gave of China and eating cats illustrates.
post #7 of 21
Nice of her to paint all Southerners with the same brush. About as bad as making it about race.

She may as well say, "All you hillbilly Southerners are dog fighters."
post #8 of 21
That is complete garbage! I was born and raised a Southern belle and I guarentee her and the rest of the idiots who want to defend him that it is NOT an acceptable part of anyone's upbringing! Great...so now all Southerners are idiots who approve of dog fighting so that makes it acceptable?? What an ignorant woman!
post #9 of 21
The problem is, these kinds of comments from Foxx and Goldberg (and I emailed Bill Bellamy the other day for making similar ones on Last Comic Standing) give the impression that even if something is cultural that makes it acceptable. Sure, there might be more of a problem with dogfighting in the south than there is in Boston - but hey, there might not. The `culture' of it doesn't justify it or make it right. It might give insight to the reasons some children are exposed to this kind of thing, but it doesn't mean that it's ok for those children to grow up and perpetuate the problem.

It's like me saying that in the outback in Australia people like to go hog-shooting, and organise dog-hog fights (don't even ask - it's too grotesque to describe). That doesn't make it inherently Australian and it doesn't make it right. Same with bullfighting. Very much a part of Spanish culture, but still wrong and cruel.

Morality should be taught to children right alongside cultural values. Then they will have the equipment to make their own decisions as they grow.
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Spanish culture, but still wrong and cruel.
i saw a bullfight once, made me wish i had a gun on me.
i was told that the bull was later cooked and the food given out..
SO what,if your going to kill it just kill it!!!!
post #11 of 21


I was talking about it with a girl at work the other day. Her partner had dragged her along to a bullfight in Spain. Not because he likes bloodsports, but because it was `something you did' when you went to Spain. If that tourist mentally would stop, the practice itself might eventually stop. She said it was so utterly sickening she left and waited outside. She didn't care if the bulls were eaten afterwards, either. Which they are, apparently, always. Still doesn't make it right, IMO.
post #12 of 21
It is all about the ratings. The View's website it touting "the controversies continue" with links to see the comments of Whoopies. And let's face it how many people knew that Whoopie started on the View. I didn't. But I do now. Frankly if I was a Southerner I would be highly insulted to lump a small section of individuals who like that type of brutality over the whole South. But I think it is more anything to grab attention and get a buzz going.

Tricia
post #13 of 21
Don't get me sooo started on this whole "Vick" thing, and the IDIOTS who defend him!!!

I'm telling you,, my opinion of these celebrities are going down the tubes, and quick!
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Nice of her to paint all Southerners with the same brush. About as bad as making it about race.

She may as well say, "All you hillbilly Southerners are dog fighters."
I don't think that's what she said at all... saying that Michael Vick comes from a place where dogfighting is common is not the same as that.

It might be interesting to speculate why the man is such a cruel person, but even if it were true that his culture growing up was like that, he has been away from that quite long enough to realize how wrong it is. I disagree with her when she says he was probably surprised to find out how people feel about it.

Anyway, I hate to say it, but I don't think it has as much to do with being Southern as it does with other aspects of his culture... there was a huge dogfighting bust in Cleveland a couple years ago.
post #15 of 21
When Arizona banned cockfighting, there was a hue and cry, about it being a part of Hispanic culture.

In the interests of "cultural diversity", perhaps Britain should bring back bearbaiting and Italy could once again stage gladiatorial fights in the Roman Coliseum (maybe throw a few Christians to the lions, while they're at it)
post #16 of 21
Does anyone else besides me get a little bit of "ha ha, you deserve it" feeling when you see a bullfighter get stomped by a bull?

I know, very un-Christian like.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Does anyone else besides me get a little bit of "ha ha, you deserve it" feeling when you see a bullfighter get stomped by a bull?

I know, very un-Christian like.
I do.. I think it's funny... They deserve it..

I'm over people baiting and be mean to animals, period! I find no sport in anything cruel to animals.. Bull riding or anythign like that..

Racing maybe, because the animals enjoy it, and are breed for that,, but even then they deserve retreat after they are done racing.
post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Does anyone else besides me get a little bit of "ha ha, you deserve it" feeling when you see a bullfighter get stomped by a bull?

I know, very un-Christian like.
Ohhhhh yes indeed. I think it ALL the time when I see that.

And it's not un-Christian of you. I mean, yeah, what would I know (lol) but I thought it was a Christian virtue to favour compassion and fairness and after all, it could be viewed as `an eye for an eye'. Or a gouged hip, or you know, something like that.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Does anyone else besides me get a little bit of "ha ha, you deserve it" feeling when you see a bullfighter get stomped by a bull?

I know, very un-Christian like.
lol i always think dang, to bad he did not kill the guy,
oh well, i am evil and i already know that.
post #20 of 21
I sent her an email at The View last night. I was so incensed. I mentioned that lynching and burning crosses used to be pretty much a part of the `culture of the south' - did she think that made it ok?
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
I sent her an email at The View last night. I was so incensed. I mentioned that lynching and burning crosses used to be pretty much a part of the `culture of the south' - did she think that made it ok?
Oooo! Excellent point!!!
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