Only a few online stores listed. I would get a sample, but I'm not paying $9 shipping for a $2.99 sample bag
for something Riley may not even eat. If it ever becomes more available, maybe I'll try it then.
EVO has fruits and veggies other than potato also.Originally Posted by sharky
It is WHERE the carbs come from... Orijen has veggies and fruits in addition to potato so MORE carbs are from them
Not at the same level.. yes I actually compared the two side by side...Originally Posted by mschauer
EVO has fruits and veggies other than potato also.
Actually there is no way to tell from the label what the quantities (I assume that is what you mean by "level") of the ingredients are. The quanity of fruits and veggies other than potato in the EVO could actaully be higher than that in Orijen. Or lower. Point being you can't tell.Originally Posted by sharky
Not at the same level.. yes I actually compared the two side by side...maybe I need a life..lmao..
Why not post it here? I'm sure everyone is interested.Originally Posted by sharky
I will gladly explain all the issue s via PM... it is overall in favor of Orijen over Evo Via MY criteria with UTI health in mind
That someone would have that kind of experience with a food would make me at least want to try the food. Maybe that's all the reason alot of people needed.Originally Posted by icklemiss21
I think because she has posted it before several times... and I think I helped start the Orijen bandwagon when my vet remarked on the improvement in health in Scully (you are newer so don't know his story, so in a nutshell, I adopted him a few years ago, aged 9, with diabetes at 33lbs, he had 'issues' eating wet so we settled on a high protein dry. I fed EVO for a while and then they kept changing their formula just after he had an operation and as such he wasn't really eating it, so I tried something else and Orijen was LOVED by all 4 of my cats and the vet mentioned they all looked healthier on it), he lost weight better on it and his coat is better.
Thanks for doing that. I know it was a pain. It is interesting that it varies quite a bit from what is on their web site. I don't know that it is important but it is interesting...Now onto the ingredients (excuse any typos this list is long)
Fresh chicken meat, chicken meal (low ash), turkey meal, steamed russet potato, fresh caughty Northern Whitefish, chicken fat, fresh whole eggs, salmon meal, salmon & anchovy oils, tapioca, chicken broth, sunflower oil, flaxseed, Atlantic kelp, steamed carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, sun cured alfalfa, apple fibre, psyllium seed, rosemary extract, chicory, burdock and marshmallow root (FOS), yeast extract (MOS), glucosamine HCI, cranberries, blackcurrants, rosehip, stinging nettle, marigold flowers, L-carnitine, fennel seed, chamomile flowers, milk thistle, chickweed, summer savory, chondroitin sulfate, mixed tocopherals (source of Vit. E) choline chloride, Vit. A, D3, niacin, riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, Vit. K, B12, folic acid, biotin, pyridoxine (source of Vit. B6), iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, sodium selenite, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, lactobacillus, acidophilis, Lactobacillus casei, bifidobacterium (B.bifidus) and Saccharomyces (S. boulardii)
Okay, here's how I got started with Orijen. When the recall hit, I was in the process of (1) switching them to California Natural from a lower quality dry food (Authority) and (2) trying to ultimately get them onto an all-wet diet. After the recall, I freaked out about glutens of any kind, and most of the wet I was feeding had glutens. I basically had to change everything they were eating. Based on my own research, the extremely knowlegable people on this board, and the fact that Cindy was turning her nose up at most of the new varieties of canned I was trying, I decided I would go grain free dry. I tried every kind of grain free dry available, and neither of my cats would touch any of them. I was about to give up, but I was hearing so many good things about Orijen, I finally decided to order a bag. I didn't have much hope of success, but to my surprise, both my cats loved it. They're doing well on it, althought I'm still trying for a more wet than dry overall diet plan.Originally Posted by mschauer
I'd still loved to hear from others. Just cuz your cat likes Orijen better than EVO doesn't count. My cats *love* Pro Plan!
ZEA MAYS is corn silk, a botanical that is derived from filaments inside the leaf of the corn plant. It is not the corn kernels or grain. This link will take you to Botanical.com where you can learn more about the composition and function of this novel botanical. http://botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/c/corsi105.html
As regards the changes to our other botanicals, this is an unfortunate circumstance of selling in the USA market, where AAFCO regulates botanicals. While all ORIJEN botanicals are GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) and widely used in holistic medicine for dogs and cats, no one has ever registered these as supplements in foods for animals, and AAFCO views them as 'novel' as they have never reviewed them for use in pet food. We also had to change the wording on our packages as (according to AAFCO) there is no such thing as fresh chicken meat! The updated botanicals reflect those that are recognized by AAFCO, and that replicate our original list as closely as possible.
The changes to the original ORIJEN formula are really very, very small and most of the changes are really a result of AAFCO rulings resulting in our having to rewrite the ingredient panels. That said, and even though AAFCO doesn't allow us to say it - our meats, fish and eggs arrive at our factory FRESH (never frozen, no preservatives) each day.
ORIJEN is of course entirely grain free.
That's great! Thanks for looking into it. I've been sure for some time that are are differences in labelling standards in other countries. Not surprising really. Why would they be the same?Originally Posted by icklemiss21
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