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NAACP Urges NFL to Let Vick Play Again

post #1 of 25
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070822/...fbn_vick_naacp

They have to be kidding right? The guy took a plea and said he was guilty as charged. And they want to let him play again. I think not.

And this quote has me fuming to the point I am speechless:
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"His crime is, it was a dog," White said.
What the heck is that supposed to mean?
post #2 of 25
Ooooh that makes me burn. How can in one sentence he say the dog fighting is a bad as hunting (it's MUCH worse than hunting IMO) and then say that straight afterwards? I want to write to them, I really do. And how about this link?
post #3 of 25
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Kit your link is not working for me. I did hear today someone on the Knicks are defending Vick. Saying dogfighting is like hunting and that its just a sport behind closed doors.
post #4 of 25
Yeah that's the link I tried to get up - I'll see if I can get it to work. Yeah, just like hunting behind closed doors. Haven't heard that take on it before
post #5 of 25
Maybe a canned hunt. It's not even close to comparable with hunting. A true hunt has a pretty darn good chance of coming home empty handed. Absolutely not true in dog fighting - something is going to get hurt or die, and neither of the animals have any choice but kill or be killed. That's just disgusting.

Maybe these idiots should look at the amount of public outrage over this and realize that standing behind this piece of trash and even trying to justify what he did is going to put a really bad light on them as well.
post #6 of 25
Let 'em just keep up their moronic talk. All it is doing it getting people's blood boiling all over again.
Let's get them. What can we do? Who can we email.

The NAACP, the most racially divisive organization in America IMO.
post #7 of 25
Ping, I hope you posted that at the "other" place.
post #8 of 25
excuse me? to compare hunting with dog fighting, is BULL****
to even think the same is a insult.
post #9 of 25
How can they say dog fighting is just like hunting? These people torture and destroy cats and pet dogs to train these dogs into brutal killers. They cruelly destroy these animals when they don't perform up.

Hunters have to work for their sport and and responsible ones take care to humanely hunt.
post #10 of 25
Ok those NAACP people are a little off their rocker on this one.
post #11 of 25
I don't get it. Do they think he was discriminated against? They persist with this, isn't going to make them look very good.
post #12 of 25


yeah, this is doing a lot for the advancement of colored people, why are they even getting involved!!??
post #13 of 25
"Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they're in the game".

I like that quote a lot. It sums up hunting for me, and it also neatly disproves the statement that dogfighting is `just like hunting'.

Besides, who would want to hunt an animal that is held in position right in front of them? (Well, who would want to hunt, period, would be my response, but some people like it)
post #14 of 25
*runs screaming into the night*

Now there's an organization that needs a good slap and a splash of cold water.

Defending brutal self-confessed criminals is not civil rights. Stop confusing blind defense of any black person with defense of black people.
post #15 of 25
I personally do not approve of hunting. But all of that aside. Dogs are pets. Who exactly hunts dogs? It just isn't done.
People hunt wild animals. If they tried to hunt dogs or cats, my bets they would be charged with animal cruelty.
post #16 of 25
I have heard a little here and there before this about all the outrage about this being racially motivated. I don't believe this to be true, I think it is about what he did. I have also heard that people get more outraged about cruelty towards animals than they do about cruelty towards people. I think that may be true but that problem is with people being desensitized to the cruelty towards people rather than over reacting to the cruelty towards animals.
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Ping, I hope you posted that at the "other" place.
It is thats where I read this at first.
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by Denice View Post
I have heard a little here and there before this about all the outrage about this being racially motivated. I don't believe this to be true, I think it is about what he did. I have also heard that people get more outraged about cruelty towards animals than they do about cruelty towards people. I think that may be true but that problem is with people being desensitized to the cruelty towards people rather than over reacting to the cruelty towards animals.
I can only speak for myself when I say that this is certainly true for me. I am much more upset over animal cruelty than I am over cruelty against humans. And I don't think that's misplaced or wrong, either. It's not that I'm unsympathetic towards humans at all, but I don't understand how one has to be more than the other.

I think (and again I'm only speaking for myself here) that I feel this way in every instance human welfare is the priority. Everything in our world is geared towards looking after humans. There is nothing wrong with this, of course, but I do feel the exact same priority should be towards all living creatures, not just humans. Humans can understand what is happening to them, we have complex psyches and we have a much higher level of consciousness. I feel that understanding what is happening to you can make abuse that much worse, but then again, perhaps not. Humans are granted the ability to understand motive, and frightening situations that they are subject to. This also gives us strength.

Animals don't understand. They are, for the most part, utterly helpless, and utterly under our control. This, to me, makes abusing them SO much worse. So much worse. Plus, I don't think that the species of victims of abuse is or should be the issue - but rather the motivation and ability of the abuser to commit atrocities against another living creature.

It's hard to explain. I have the same level of horror at people who abuse children as I do at people who abuse animals. Because the same innocence, helplessness and lack of understanding is there.

I don't place any less value on an animal's life than I do on a humans. I read a quote today that sums this up for me.

"The question is not, "Can they reason?" nor, "Can they talk?" but rather, "Can they suffer?"

And this quote seems to perfectly express my feeling about the treatment of animals as inferior just because they happen to be less mentally evolved than humans;

"The basis of all animal rights should be the Golden Rule: We should treat them as we would wish them to treat us, were any other species in our dominant position."

Right on.
post #19 of 25
My question is: Why just defend Vick and not the other players that have been handed suspension in the recent months?
post #20 of 25
Just to show how behind the times the NAACP is, shouldn't they have changed the name of the organization to the National Association for the Advancement of African-Americans? NAAAA -- now that's got a certain panache -- reminds me of that goat in the AFLAC commercial.
post #21 of 25
He is black so they are defending him. They would do the same if he had murdered the Pope.
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
I can only speak for myself when I say that this is certainly true for me. I am much more upset over animal cruelty than I am over cruelty against humans. And I don't think that's misplaced or wrong, either. It's not that I'm unsympathetic towards humans at all, but I don't understand how one has to be more than the other.

I think (and again I'm only speaking for myself here) that I feel this way in every instance human welfare is the priority. Everything in our world is geared towards looking after humans. There is nothing wrong with this, of course, but I do feel the exact same priority should be towards all living creatures, not just humans. Humans can understand what is happening to them, we have complex psyches and we have a much higher level of consciousness. I feel that understanding what is happening to you can make abuse that much worse, but then again, perhaps not. Humans are granted the ability to understand motive, and frightening situations that they are subject to. This also gives us strength.

Animals don't understand. They are, for the most part, utterly helpless, and utterly under our control. This, to me, makes abusing them SO much worse. So much worse. Plus, I don't think that the species of victims of abuse is or should be the issue - but rather the motivation and ability of the abuser to commit atrocities against another living creature.

It's hard to explain. I have the same level of horror at people who abuse children as I do at people who abuse animals. Because the same innocence, helplessness and lack of understanding is there.

I don't place any less value on an animal's life than I do on a humans. I read a quote today that sums this up for me.

"The question is not, "Can they reason?" nor, "Can they talk?" but rather, "Can they suffer?"

And this quote seems to perfectly express my feeling about the treatment of animals as inferior just because they happen to be less mentally evolved than humans;

"The basis of all animal rights should be the Golden Rule: We should treat them as we would wish them to treat us, were any other species in our dominant position."

Right on.

I love this post.
post #23 of 25
I have never liked the NAACP. They do and say anything to protect the people they advocate, whether it's right or wrong...
post #24 of 25
Them and other people saying he didn't gamble because he didn't do side betting is ridiculous, and the NFL did make it clear in their letter to Vick that just providing the money for the purses was enough to violate the NFL's policy on gambling. He has stated repeatedly that they should let him play because he did no side betting even after that letter....HELLO, does he not know how to read? Do the other people using that excuse know how? They addressed it in their letter for that very reason. You STILL gambled!!! He also lied repeatedly to the Falcons and league officials...why should they give him slack? He didn't admit to guilt until he was cornered!
post #25 of 25
The NAACP wants the NFL to let Michael Vick play again?? I think not!! Ok, maybe after he spends his time in jail and gets some serious therapy. Heck, if I was found guilty of the same thing (not that I would EVER do such a thing), I would lose my job!!
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"His crime is, it was a dog," White said.
Maybe some people just don't get it. They have this attitude well, it's just an animal. The thing is this. It has been shown time and time again, that many serial killers abused and tortured animals before they went on to kill or torture people. Another thing that people don't understand, is that these dogs, were not the only animals that sufferded. I don't want to even think of the poor animals that lost their lives, in training these dogs to fight. People who have no respect for other life just make me sick and the people who say "they are only doing this to Michael Vick because he is black" make me sick as well. This is NOT a racial issue here, it has to do with an evil sick person.
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