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post #1 of 24
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I saw this on the news this morning... curious what you all thought.
post #2 of 24
Holy Cow. The police "plan to talk to the owner"
That owner should be brought up on charges.

It is pretty darn bad when you can't even be asleep in your own darn bed
without being attacked.


(Is "darn" okay to say)
post #3 of 24
I think that's very odd. What possible motivation could a dog have to `break in' to someone's house? That article makes it sound as though it was a planned attack, as if any dog or animal has the ability to work something out like that - with a co-conspirator no less - and then execute their well formulated plan. The media really do enjoy vilifying pit bulls as often as possible, don't they?

I don't deny that this happened, of course, but I'd be very interested to know why those dogs were not secured in their own yards, or with their owner on a leash. And why they were so aggressive in the first place (abuse, clearly) and all the myriad other circumstances that led to this attack even being logistically possible, if nothing else, in the first place.
post #4 of 24
I was stationed in that area from 1979 to 1981 and there was a huge problem with dog fighting then so I can imagine how bad it could be by now. I could believe that they were dogs used for that. It does still seem really odd that they would go in the house like that. I think maybe the Jack Russell actually went in first to get away from them and they went in after him.
post #5 of 24
I don't know it all seems fishy to me. The one thing that strikes me as odd is that the dogs went in and attacked her. It almost seems like they were cohersed into doing it. The one thing that seperates us from animals is reason. A dog would not be able to go in and atack with out some sort of urging. If it were a human who broke in and did that than maybe I could understand it. But a dog. Come on really? I think the oners played a bigger part in it than we al realize. There is no way a dog or any other animal could come up with the plan to go into the house and maul someone. I can't wait to see what the owners have to say about the whole thing. For the Jack Russel, I think he truley may have heard someone in jeapordy and went in to help. Its a shame he was lost. I am interested in finding out the rest of the story.
post #6 of 24
Very frightening!! That poor woman.....

And I wonder if this would of made "news" if it had been any other type of dog??
post #7 of 24
It sounds a bit odd indeed. If the lady wasn't supposedly in her bed, I would guess the pit bulls chased the Jack Russel as Denice mentioned, then she may have came out to see what was going on, thus startling the other dogs.

I mean what are the odds of the pit bulls or any animal, entering someones house and going straight to the bedroom to attack whoever is there
post #8 of 24
She's in hospital in serious condition. that means the mauling was really bad

I know there are a number of people here that are fans of pit bulls, but I'm not one of them. Frankly they scare the poop out of me

Every dog attack that I have heard about involves pit bulls.

Winnipeg, Manitoba has had a ban on pit bull ownership for more than 15 years.

However, Pit bulls are certainly not the only dog that people should have some concerns about. There are other breeds that have been involved in dog incidents, and there are other breeds that were developed for fighting-type instincts, and of course there are all kinds of mixes of breeds that could result in a very aggressive dog. Rottweilers, for example, have been blamed for at least two fatal attacks on children across Canada in recent years.

This incident certainly shows another good reason to not have dog doors. And I imagine that woman will now be getting rid of it.
post #9 of 24
The dogs that are what I call hyper-territorial and have an extreme guarding type instinct like pitbulls and Rottweillers and there are other breeds need an experienced owner. I don't believe they are a good 'starter' dog for a novice person. Those breeds aren't my cup of tea but for someone who knows what they are doing and want that particular breed they are fine and are no more dangerous to have in the neighborhood than any other type of dog. Unfortunately people who don't know what they are doing get these dogs and don't give them the boundaries and training they need to, they do the same as they would with a dog like a Lab or Golden Retriever. When I say training I do not mean physical abuse of any type but they are much more tenacious about testing the boundaries and trying to be the leader of the pack which the owner is also a member of. If the dog becomes to his mind the leader of the pack that's when there are major problems that result in the horror stories that have given these breeds such a bad name.
post #10 of 24
Also, the more abused a dog is, the more it is likely to become aggressive. Pit bulls are amongst the most abused of the breeds, as a group set. Therefore it stands to reason that they could become the most aggressive of the breeds. This, as it happens, is not the case, however when an abused pit bull attacks it is much likelier to have a significantly worse outcome than if an abused poodle attacked, for example. I'm not trying to be funny, by the way...
post #11 of 24
Scary story. Something similar happened in the following story.

Bear kills boy after pulling him from family tent.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/ma...0/wbear120.xml
post #12 of 24
That article seems extremly fishy to me. I love the way they use terms like "broke into the house" - as if these dogs planned a break in like some sort of expereinced criminal

All articles like this are going to do is cause more pain and suffering to a breed that is already going through soo much right now. The idiots who wrote it could at least write it properly without making out an entire breed to be soo aweful. I do not think all of the facts were laid out properly in the article so it makes me wonder how credible it is. I'm not saying that this didn't occur- but i sure am not doubting that some details weren't strewn in the wrong direction along the way.

It's interesting how you only hear about "ferocious" pit bulls attacking people on the news.....never about any other breeds/mixes (and the majority of dogs we've had come in at our shelter under bite watches are NOT pit bulls. i'd say a good 90% we've had are not...yet everyone fears the pit bulls because of how much the media blows things out of the water and gives them a bad repuation. They can be perfectly good dogs if raised properly and they are bred right. The problem with BYB's is that they breed for fights/etc...not good genetics. It's stuff like that which makes me extremly sad.
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post

Every dog attack that I have heard about involves pit bulls.
You only hear of Pit Bulls attacking because if any other breed attacks, it's a "fluke". It is that individual dog, not the breed. Trust me, I know of more Labs, Chis, Poms, & Shih Tzus that have attacked & done grievous harm to a person than I do Pits.

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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
That article seems extremly fishy to me. I love the way they use terms like "broke into the house" - as if these dogs planned a break in like some sort of expereinced criminal

*GASP* Maybe aliens invaded the Pits minds & controlled their bodies forcing them to maul that woman!

Done being a dork. I think that article was written by a dog hater. The way it is aimed at Pits.....I mean c'mon! I love dogs, I really do....but they do not have the mental facilities to lay out a plan to attack a person. They went into the house for a reason, & the woman scared them. Thus, they attacked. Duh!
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by Denice View Post
The dogs that are what I call hyper-territorial and have an extreme guarding type instinct like pitbulls and Rottweillers
I hate to be nitpicky, but....

I have no experience with Rotties, so I can't comment there, but Pits are about the least territorial breed there is (unless you happen to be another dog).
They are the absolute worst breed of dog if you want a guard dog.
Unless abused into being aggressive, the average pit bull at worst would knock an intruder down and slobber all over them, if not lead them to the home's valuables.
post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by Arlyn View Post
I hate to be nitpicky, but....

I have no experience with Rotties, so I can't comment there, but Pits are about the least territorial breed there is (unless you happen to be another dog).
They are the absolute worst breed of dog if you want a guard dog.
Unless abused into being aggressive, the average pit bull at worst would knock an intruder down and slobber all over them, if not lead them to the home's valuables.
I agree. I'd be more afraid of my purebred Lab seriously injuring someone than all of the shelter's Pits.

Pit Bulls DO NOT have locking jaws. They are NOT all aggressive. "Beat the tar outta me & I'll get aggressive. Respect me & treat me like I deserve to be treated & I'll be a faithful loving companion."
post #16 of 24
I've only had one experience with a pit bull, and it was good. He was like a big, wiggling, ultra-strong kitty cat. The closest I came to injury was when he headbutted me in the chin in a face licking frenzy.

So, I had no judgment either way, just wanted to throw that in
post #17 of 24
And so many are that way Mike....just wiggly, kissy, happy dogs. THAT kind of Pit is what the public needs to see more of!
post #18 of 24
I love pits and I hate that the woman was attacked....but I think she should have had her door shut! If I left mine partially opened for my cats to come and go as they pleased, I'd have a house full of raccoons, possums, and anything else that decided to wander in. I don't think the dogs should be blamed, it was as much her fault as it was the dogs!
post #19 of 24
Bull dogs of any variety, including pits, do NOT have locking jaws. That is a myth perpetuated by a hysterical media.

And the reason the `only dog attacks you ever hear about are by pit bulls' is because they are pretty much the only dog attacks that are ever reported. The media has a vendetta against this breed and jumps at any opportunity to publicise this.

In Australia, the most common dog attacks are by Blue Heelers. But the only ones that ever get in the paper are by the occasional Rottweiler.

The problem lies in people getting dogs that they are not experienced enough to own and that they do not know how to train or raise correctly. All dogs were originally bred for a purpose - some to retrieve, some to hunt, some to guard. Idiot people get guarding breeds and then don't understand how to raise them properly, which also includes trying to use them as aggressive guard dogs wherein they mistakenly try to enhance the guarding instinct that is already naturally there. That's when you get attacks by these breeds. Blame the owner, not the dog. Nature and nurture are both particularly relevant factors when raising dogs.

I remember about two years ago reading a story where the family Golden Retriever mauled a child to death. This dog was rehabilitated, excused and its behaviour justified. Fair enough - dogs do not attack for no reason. If only all dogs were treated this fairly.
post #20 of 24
A lot of people think a guard dog or a dog for protection is one that they have made vicious through cruelty. They think they if have made a dog vicious then they have a trained guard or attack dog. Nothing could be further from the truth. I used to know some MPs that worked with dogs and they are highly trained and can be completely trusted not to attack unless commanded to do so. They were not super loving playful dogs and were reserved with strangers but they would never attack without being commanded to do so. The attack command was always a very uncommon word that had nothing to do with attacking so there could be no horrible accidents.
post #21 of 24
There has to be more to the story, although, it seems like animals (even bears) (see my previous post about the bear) are attacking and killing people for no reason.

I've had one experience with pits, I had neighbors whose bulls used to come in my yard all the time, they never took care of them, they used to propagate all the time. The mother pitbull took her baby to me and left it in my yard. It was sick with worms. I called the pound (one of many, many, many calls) and they came and took the baby. Someone at the pound adopted the baby. It needed much vet attention.

After this experience, I think pitbulls are very intelligent. I would not own one, but I think they are highly intelligent. The mother pitbull KNEW that I would take care of her baby and I did.
post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post

Pit Bulls DO NOT have locking jaws. They are NOT all aggressive. "Beat the tar outta me & I'll get aggressive. Respect me & treat me like I deserve to be treated & I'll be a faithful loving companion."
EXACTLY!!

We're staying at Johns moms for a good 3-4 months until our townhouse is re-built from the flood, and they have a 5 month old female Pitbull- Tegan, she's the most adorable LOVING dog I've ever met! Even Bayley likes her...

It just makes me sad to know that these kind of dogs are in the media like this for all the attacks... I just truly believe its the way the dogs were raised, abused, or not, its the way the owners treats them!
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
I agree. I'd be more afraid of my purebred Lab seriously injuring someone than all of the shelter's Pits.

Pit Bulls DO NOT have locking jaws. They are NOT all aggressive. "Beat the tar outta me & I'll get aggressive. Respect me & treat me like I deserve to be treated & I'll be a faithful loving companion."
Thank you!!!

I get so flipping tired of all the negative talk about pitties!!

Amy would much rather knock you down to shower you with slobbers and kisses..then to EVER even think about biting you!!
post #24 of 24
I have to say that the only Pit Bulls I've ever had contact with were friendly loving dogs. One time I took my cat Snooper (RIP) to visit a friend of mine. My friend had the sweetest Pit Bull you'd ever want to meet. Elvira loved cats, and loved mothering all cats. Snoopy however didn't take too highly to Elvira's mothering, and Snoopy attacked her. Elvira jumped away, and I swear she had tears in her eyes, because it broke her heart.

Another friend of mine had a Pit Bull who thought he was a lap dog. He was a good sized boy, but he would crawl up on my lap whenever I'd come to visit.

I don't think it's the breed of dog, but the fact that a lot of the people who get Pit Bulls abuse them and work at making them vicious. Even a Golden Retriever can be vicious if abused.
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