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Another animal abuser

post #1 of 28
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This really gets old and the more I hear about it the less tolerant I get. The people who do these things just need to be shot. I don't think you can re-hab a person who purposely hurts an animal that has no means of defending itself.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070818/...tured_tortoise
post #2 of 28
He deserves a LOT more than he might be getting. I wonder how he'd feel is someone tried to cut him out of his skin, and threw him across a room. It is absolutely sickening.
post #3 of 28
I can't read it, it is to depressing. It makes me wonder what is inside people that do stuff like this. I can only imagine, well, maybe I can't.
post #4 of 28
I am glad the poor guy is going to recover, reptiles are pretty fragile when it comes to surgeries or anything involving anesthesia.

I really wish there was some virus that would single out abusive people.....
post #5 of 28
Animal abusers make me sick and it would make my day complete to abuse them myself
post #6 of 28
Maybe when the other inmates hear what he's in for, he'll get a taste of his own medicine in prison.
post #7 of 28
One can only hope, Coaster.
post #8 of 28
Don't get me wrong... I too think he deserves more time than 3 years... but at this point I'm just glad that he might be serving time. Maybe he'll actually think about what he's done while he's serving time.

But I think what gets me more are the people that do things like this and only get a small fine. So it may only be three years in this case... but at least it's three years and not $50!
post #9 of 28
If he gets three years for this it will be a big advance for animal welfare (I didn't read the article by the way - I couldn't - but I've got an idea). Rarely is prison time given for animal abuse, and as a comparative example, some rapists get three years or less. From that perspective, it's a decent sentence, and will hopefully set a precedent that will see the punishments for cruelty to animals become much harsher.
post #10 of 28
That story is so disturbing!! That poor 'lil boy, Im sure he doesnt fully understand whats going on....

I am glad Bob will be ok.

That that did that needs his toes, legs, arms, cut off!!
post #11 of 28
And the really scary thing is that if this 18 yr old gets out of jail in a few years, the next "victum" will be a human!

Its been documented that animal abusers very often grow up to become a spousal or child abuser!
post #12 of 28
Ya, excellent point. This kid needs therapy even more than he needs jail, I think.
post #13 of 28
Abusers rarely respond to therapy!
post #14 of 28
Where did you get that from? Abusers often respond to therapy - as long as they get the right kind.
post #15 of 28
To help fight for more appropriate penalties, please join www.animal-justice.org.

It is a travesty that "people" do things like this. The law has a LONG way to go to catch up with the severity of abuse that "humans" cause animals.
post #16 of 28
Physical and emotion/verbal abusers rarely change their spots for long. They may respond a little to therapy, but most go back into the same pattern.

If you doubt me, read Abuse Survivors Speak Out by Patricia Evans! That book saved my life and sanity when I figured out my ex was a verbal abuser to me and my son. I've lived with an abuser most of my first marriage - I'm aware of what happens and how they really are.
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
If he gets three years for this it will be a big advance for animal welfare (I didn't read the article by the way - I couldn't - but I've got an idea). Rarely is prison time given for animal abuse, and as a comparative example, some rapists get three years or less. From that perspective, it's a decent sentence, and will hopefully set a precedent that will see the punishments for cruelty to animals become much harsher.

We are more alike than I would have thought Sarah.

I agree with this. Cripes, people can MURDER their children and get probation.
post #18 of 28
Hopefully though any sentence (the longer the better) will hopefully send a message to other abusers.
post #19 of 28
That makes me so angry! It reminds me of the turtles I saw impaled on sticks in the lake area while fishing. I'd like to impale them onto a stake just like they did the turtles. I just don't understand how people can abuse animals!
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
I've lived with an abuser most of my first marriage - I'm aware of what happens and how they really are.
So have I, and so am I. It's more common than people think. Much more.

My mother-in-law has worked with abused women and children for over 30 years (for our state government - the Department of Communities and the Department for Child Protection), and in her vast experience has noted that a very great deal of abusers not only benefit from counselling, but are actually able to save and maintain their relationships as a result. One of my best friends, who is a social worker, agrees. So I guess there are many schools of thought on that particular topic.
post #21 of 28
That's bull . I hate animal abusers. Shooting them would be to kind. I think they should be tortured and mutilated like they do to poor helpless animals. I could go on but I won't
post #22 of 28
Well personally I don't want to stick around and find out if they can be rehabilitated!
post #23 of 28
Why not? Don't you believe in helping people improve their lives and giving them a second chance to be good people and to try to make themselves and other people happy?

Goodness, if we were all written off for doing bad things in our life not many of us would be going to heaven now would we?
post #24 of 28
Sorry but NOT my ex - he verbally and emotionally abused me for about 15 yrs before I got out. He also started on my son. He didn't WANT any help cause he denied having a problem. And to this day he still denies it.

The only ones that might change are the ones that WANT to change and admit to a problem - otherwise you will not changed the spots on an abuser.

I've forgiven him (took a long time) but never forgot what he did. Very few abusers change. And just cause you forgive a person, doesn't mean you have to accept staying with that person and giving them another chance. I gave him far too many chances to "change" - he has to face his own decisions.
post #25 of 28
Well, that we can both agree on. I tried to be friends with my ex-husband and it didn't work. I'd stopped respecting him loooong before I left him, but in the end I didn't really even like him all that much either. That's a part of my past I'm happy to leave behind.

But still, I knew that he was a good guy with deep seated issues, and I do wish him happiness.
post #26 of 28
I think the type of abuser determines a lot in whether or not he/she can be rehabilitated. For instance, I think a person with insecurities and a bad temper who blows up and abuses his/her partner is more likely to be rehabilitated than some sick "human" who mutilitates a defenseless animal for kicks.

Don't get me wrong, I believe it is difficult for both types to change, just more likely for the former. I am by NO MEANS trying to minimize the actions of any kind of abuser.
post #27 of 28
I believe in "an eye for an eye" when it comes to child and animal abus. It makes me absolutely sick to hear about abuse cases. The people who commit these crimes are perverted and sick. I would like to see this kid get his legs cut up, carved - maybe someone could try to "skin him" away from his bones. I just don't understand why we give someone a slap on the wrist and let them go out and do this - or something worse, all over again. Not to mention that most serial killers have a history of beginning their crimes by torturing and mutilating animals, and even bugs.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by lnbandcats View Post
I believe in "an eye for an eye" when it comes to child and animal abuse. It makes me absolutely sick to hear about abuse cases. The people who commit these crimes are perverted and sick. I would like to see this kid get his legs cut up, carved - maybe someone could try to "skin him" away from his bones. I just don't understand why we give someone a slap on the wrist and let them go out and do this - or something worse, all over again. Not to mention that most serial killers have a history of beginning their crimes by torturing and mutilating animals, and even bugs.
Uhh, sorry, I just read my post and I sound like a nut case. I just get very upset when I hear about these abuse situations - especially against animals, children, the elderly - creatures who really can't defend themselves, and have never done anything wrong. I am really not a crazy person, really! If I don't get angry about this, I think that I would just cry - or maybe I'll do both!
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