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Royal Canin Beauty and Fit versus Castor and Pollux

post #1 of 16
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Please tell me what food you think is better. I only have convenient access to food at Petco and my cats need a dry food that is high in protein but low in calories compared to other dry foods. I feed wet food too but my Spotty can't be convinced to eat only wet. Royal Canin has 37% protein and 15% fat and only 339 calories per cup. Castor and Pollux Indoor formula has 36% protein and 11% fat and more protein coming from meat but it also had dried fruit which you can also see in the kibble and I don't like that. Cats are not meant to eat dried payapa, dried bananas, dried apples. So what do you think?

Royal Canin Beauty and Fit:
Chicken meal, corn gluten meal, rice, corn, chicken fat (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract, and citric acid), chicken, natural chicken flavor, pea fiber, rice hulls, beet pulp, dried brewers yeast, soya oil, salmon oil, salt, potassium chloride, choline chloride, DL-methionine, borage oil, dried egg powder, sodium tripolyphosphate, taurine, Vitamins [dl-alpha tocopherol (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C*), niacin, biotin, riboflavin (vitamin B2), d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, vitamin A acetate, vitamin D3 supplement], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], L-carnitine, green tea extract.

Crude Protein Not less than 37.0%
Crude Fat Not less than 15.0%
Crude Fiber Not more than 8.5%
Moisture Not more than 9.0%
Magnesium Not more than 0.1%
Taurine Not less than 0.22%
Vitamin E Not less than 600 mg/kg
Vitamin C* Not less than 300 mg/kg
Omega 6* Not less than 4.18%
Omega 3* Not less than 0.53%
L-Carnitine* Not less than 150 mg/kg
Green Tea Extract* Not less than 150 mg/kg


Castor and Pollux Indoor Formula:
Chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, ground whole grain barley, rice protein concentrate, brewers rice, cellulose, ground flaxseed, dried carrots, dried bananas, dried papaya, dried apples, natural chicken flavor, dried egg product, chicken fat preserved with mixed tocopherols (form of vitamin E), brewers dried yeast, dried beet pulp, menhaden fish meal, sodium bisulfate, salmon meal, potassium chloride, dried blueberries, L-lysine, salt, choline chloride, taurine, DL-methionine, L-carnitine, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, niacin, vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, manganous oxide, thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), riboflavin supplement (source of vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin K1 supplement, sodium selenite, folic acid, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, cobalt carbonate, yeast culture (saccharomyces cerevisiae), dried enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried trichoderma longbrachiatum fermenation extract, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract and fermentation solubles.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein, min………………..…………………………36.00%
Crude Fat, min………..……………………………………11.00%
Crude Fat, max………..……………………………………14.50%
Crude Fiber, max………..………………………………… 8.50%
Moisture, max………...……………………………………10.00%
Calcium, min…………………………………………………1.00%
Phosphorus, min………………………………………… .0.80%
Magnesium, max…………………………………….… 0.12%
Taurine, min….. ……………………………………………0.125%
Omega 6 Fatty Acids, min………………………………….2.00%*
Omega 3 Fatty Acids, min…………………………………0.30%*
L-Carnitine, min…………………………………………… 70 mg/kg*
post #2 of 16
Royal Canin Beauty and Fit:
Chicken meal, corn gluten mealONE or the OTHER I dont like both, rice, corn, chicken fat (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract, and citric acid), chicken, natural chicken flavor, pea fiber, rice hulls, beet pulp, dried brewers yeast, soya oil, salmon oil, salt, potassium chloride, choline chloride, DL-methionine, borage oil, dried egg powder, sodium tripolyphosphate, taurine, Vitamins [dl-alpha tocopherol (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C*), niacin, biotin, riboflavin (vitamin B2), d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, vitamin A acetate, vitamin D3 supplement], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], L-carnitine, green tea extract.
NOT all vitamins naturally food derived but over all a good formula
Crude Protein Not less than 37.0%
Crude Fat Not less than 15.0%

Crude Fiber Not more than 8.5%
Moisture Not more than 9.0%
Magnesium Not more than 0.1%
Taurine Not less than 0.22%
Vitamin E Not less than 600 mg/kg
Vitamin C* Not less than 300 mg/kg
Omega 6* Not less than 4.18%
Omega 3* Not less than 0.53%

L-Carnitine* Not less than 150 mg/kg
Green Tea Extract* Not less than 150 mg/kg


Castor and Pollux Indoor Formula:
Chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, ground whole grain barley, rice protein concentrate, brewers ricewhole barley is hard to digest ... RPC ??able.. Brewers rice .. ??able and it is low quality, celluloseI call this a filler , ground flaxseed, dried carrots, dried bananas, dried papaya, dried apples, natural chicken flavor, dried egg product, chicken fat preserved with mixed tocopherols (form of vitamin E), brewers dried yeast, dried beet pulp, menhaden fish mealNOT a human grade fish, sodium bisulfate, salmon meal, potassium chloride, dried blueberries, L-lysine, salt, choline chloride, taurine, DL-methionine, L-carnitine, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, niacin, vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, manganous oxide, thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), riboflavin supplement (source of vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin K1 supplement, sodium selenite, folic acid, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, cobalt carbonate, yeast culture (saccharomyces cerevisiae), dried enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried trichoderma longbrachiatum fermenation extract, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract and fermentation solubles.
Naturally food derived vitamins but TOOO many ???ables for the price
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein, min………………..…………………………36.00%
Crude Fat, min………..……………………………………11.00%
Crude Fat, max………..……………………………………14.50%

Crude Fiber, max………..………………………………… 8.50%
Moisture, max………...……………………………………10.00%
Calcium, min…………………………………………………1.00%
Phosphorus, min………………………………………… .0.80%

Magnesium, max…………………………………….… 0.12%
Taurine, min….. ……………………………………………0.125%
Omega 6 Fatty Acids, min………………………………….2.00%*
Omega 3 Fatty Acids, min…………………………………0.30%*
L-Carnitine, min…………………………………………… 70 mg/kg
post #3 of 16
We feed the RC. I guess it would depend on if your cat eats fruit. Charlie likes some fruits, but not sure if he'd like the dried kind. I don't think it would hurt, but I'm sticking to RC.

Too bad they don't have samples before you buy a bag of the cat foods. With Sharky's breakdown, the RC is the better food in the long run
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Too bad they don't have samples before you buy a bag of the cat foods. With Sharky's breakdown, the RC is the better food in the long run
I believe Petco ,and most pet food stores for that matter, will always give a full refund if you return an open but mostly unused bag of food with the purchase receipt.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
I was advised by Sharky that Nutro would be a better choice because of the lack of ground corn. Apparently corn creates more stool in the litter box. So I may switch but currently I still have a 3.5 pound bag to use up and any dietary change has to be made slowly.
post #6 of 16
IMO I would go with Royal Canin it has less carbs.
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by kitytize View Post
IMO I would go with Royal Canin it has less carbs.
Quick figureing if RC ash is in the 6% range they are within 2% if each other in carbs... CORRECT me if I am wrong
post #8 of 16
I figured out 25% carbs for RC and 29% carbs for the Castor and Pollux.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by kitytize View Post
I figured out 25% carbs for RC and 29% carbs for the Castor and Pollux.
what is the ash for RC ... didnt do the C and P since she isnt trying it and I know it is higher

i was figureing it vs the Nutro ...lol... but need the RC ash ..
post #10 of 16
I don't use the ash in my calculation. Foods that I have the as fed info for when I do my calculations I am closer to the as fed without ash. I do not have the as fed for either of these foods. I did request that from RC but they did not supply info for ash or carbs.
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
Can someone tell me the carbohydrate level of Nutro Natural Choice versus RC Beauty and fit and I'll make my decision based on that. By the way I found out in another cat forum(not going to mention which one) that Nutro does not use USDA inspected meat. Apparently they believe both Nutro and RC are both bad dry foods but if I get this picky it's going to be really hard to feed my cats especially buying from Petco my most convenient pet food stop.
post #12 of 16
Nutro Natural Choice has 34% carbs.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by kitytize View Post
Nutro Natural Choice has 34% carbs.
i came up with 26.75 using my formula ... which I found to be accurate for find calories ...
post #14 of 16
From Customer Service Rep when I asked a few months ago:

Natural Choice Complete Care Adult:
(Calories) Kcals/ 8oz cup: 452
Carbohydrates: 28% (NFE)
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by kittylover77 View Post
From Customer Service Rep when I asked a few months ago:

Natural Choice Complete Care Adult:
(Calories) Kcals/ 8oz cup: 452
Carbohydrates: 28% (NFE)
Thank you ...

Now should we start a call and get carbs "???
post #16 of 16
Nutro Natural adult has 28% carbs. I e-mailed Nutro the other day to find out.
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