Originally Posted by noludoru
But after you've had 5 kids I think you have inflicted your genes upon the world enough and certainly ought to have mandatory birth control.
MANDATORY BIRTH CONTROL? Are you kidding?
You want your government to be able to call you up and say, "Okay, Mrs. Smith, our records show you had your fifth child last month. Please report for sterilization at 9:00 next Tuesday."
That is not America, that is not democracy, that is not freedom of choice, that is not human rights -- that is not even human decency.
That's CHINA, for heaven's sake!
And it's also not necessary. If we didn't let the most puritannical 10% of our population dictate our principles in this area, we would long ago have instituted realistic sex education and birth control training, in several stages designed to be appropriate for elementary school right on up through college (yes, college, to reach those whose parents have kept them in the dark). That would eliminate a great many unwanted pregnancies, and a lot of STDs as well.
Then, by providing girls with a safe place to go for responsible help that does not
require parental involvement, we would eliminate a great many more "children having children."
Yes, I understand the alarm of parents at the idea of their daughters making unilateral decisions of such life-changing import -- but many of these girls live in horrible family situations where they are literally afraid for their lives
if anyone finds out they're pregnant! That's why we end up with newborn babies stuffed in dumpsters instead of taken to safe places or given up for adoption. Once a girl is pregnant, she's facing decisions she'll have to live with for the rest of her life -- and we must allow her easy access to the unbiased information and counseling that will allow her to make the right
decisions for her
... not the decisions her parents may want to impose upon her.Overpopulation in the third world is largely the result of ignorance, religious dogma, and lack of access to birth control -- we all know that. But what many of us fail to recognize is that (to a somewhat lesser degree) we have imposed EXACTLY the same ignorance, dogma, and lack of access on our OWN young people!
One time I was talking to a coworker who had a teenage daughter, and she told me she had pulled her daughter out of school on the days when sex education classes were held. I asked her why, and she said she didn't want her daughter to "get ideas."
Like the ideas don't appear on their own when the hormones kick in! Sex education classes (if they're done right) will help kids cope
with those "ideas" in safe and rational ways! But this woman wanted her 14-year-old daughter to remain ignorant.
Another woman I spoke to once said that when she found condoms in her son's dresser, she threw them out and told her son that if she ever caught him with them again, she would kick him out of the house. I said, "But if he's going to be sexually active, don't you want him to use protection?" She said she couldn't stop him from having sex, but she could make sure that if he did, he would "pay the price."
I was flabbergasted. I said, "You mean you'd rather your son get a girl pregnant than use protection?" She said, "He'd sure learn about the consequences, wouldn't he?"
And then I said, "What if he catches AIDS because you took away his condoms? Surely you don't want your son to die
for having premarital sex!" And I swear to god, this woman said, "That's his decision. If he can't keep it in his pants until he's married, he pays the price."
This is the kind of self-righteous idiocy that has kept us from handling the issue of underage sex rationally and responsibly in this country.