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The Interferon Seems To Be Working For Winchester's FIP!!

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I'm so happy I could cry (tears of joy, that is!) He hasn't had a coughing "attack" in almost a week (he was beginning to have them every day), and he's more like his usual, normal self again! He's been wanting to "play" w/ his buddies again, and has that mischievious "I'm up to something" look in his eyes, too! You can tell he's feeling better, just by looking at him: his eyes have "life" in them again, and not that "dead" look...

I realize that the FIP is something that won't go away permanately, and he'll have to take the Interferon for the remainder of his life, but he's in remission, and hopefully he'll stay that way for a looooong time to come! He's still just a "baby" (only 2), and I'm hoping & praying that he's with us for a long time.

I'm just sooooo happy!!



KittKatt
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I'm so happy I could cry (tears of joy, that is!) He hasn't had a coughing "attack" in almost a week (he was beginning to have them every day), and he's more like his usual, normal self again! He's been wanting to "play" w/ his buddies again, and has that mischievious "I'm up to something" look in his eyes, too! You can tell he's feeling better, just by looking at him: his eyes have "life" in them again, and not that "dead" look...

I realize that the FIP is something that won't go away permanately, and he'll have to take the Interferon for the remainder of his life, but he's in remission, and hopefully he'll stay that way for a looooong time to come! He's still just a "baby" (only 2), and I'm hoping & praying that he's with us for a long time.

I'm just sooooo happy!!



KittKatt
I'm SO glad. My beloved King Sunny-a-Cat was diagnosed with "asthma" at age two; it wasn't until much later that he got a sentence of FIP, and he was almost one for the Guinness Book of Records, because thanks to the miracles of Immunoregulin and B-12, he survived with a good quality of life almost five years after diagnosis, to just shy of 16 years. That's GREAT that your Winchester is in remission -- keep up the great work! and believe in him and in the course of treatment. Doctors are doing great things these days!
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That's wonderful! I am so happy for you!
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That's wonderful! I am so happy for you!
Well, as I said, he DID finally go over the Bridge, but I look forward to reuniting with him and so many other feline loved ones one fine day!

And for now, as you can see, there are nine demanding felines controlling my life and every action! All rescues, of course!
post #5 of 29
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Thanks, y'all, for your sentiments! It means a lot to me.

I have to say, I was beginning to lose hope, and didn't think that Winchester would make it. I can't tell you how many times I would just break down crying when he would have one of his attacks: I think God was getting tired of me praying to Him and asking for "mercy".

But for now, things seem to be going well, and Winchester is feeling good. I intend on cherishing every moment I have w/ him. Hopefully, it will be for a loooong time to come!


~KK~
post #6 of 29
Not wanting to sound like a nut (I'm not Judeochristian, btw) but the Creator NEVER gets tired of our prayers and when no one else will be there for us, that is the place to go. Especially for very important matters like the health of our loved ones!

He is in MY prayers as well; and I am so glad that you feel that way. No one of us knows how much time we have; we must cherish every moment and especially those with our loved ones, yes?
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Not wanting to sound like a nut (I'm not Judeochristian, btw) but the Creator NEVER gets tired of our prayers and when no one else will be there for us, that is the place to go. Especially for very important matters like the health of our loved ones!

He is in MY prayers as well; and I am so glad that you feel that way. No one of us knows how much time we have; we must cherish every moment and especially those with our loved ones, yes?
Thanks for your kind words, Tarasgirl! They are greatly appreciated!!

I agree w/ your sentiments, and I don't think you're "nutty" at all! As a matter of fact, I don't think that there are enough "God-fearing" people in our society today. I'm not a "holy-roller" type myself, but I do believe in the miracles of God and in the power of prayer. I've been "blessed" too many times myself to NOT believe!

Cheers!

KittKatt
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Thanks for your kind words, Tarasgirl! They are greatly appreciated!!

I agree w/ your sentiments, and I don't think you're "nutty" at all! As a matter of fact, I don't think that there are enough "God-fearing" people in our society today. I'm not a "holy-roller" type myself, but I do believe in the miracles of God and in the power of prayer. I've been "blessed" too many times myself to NOT believe!

Cheers!

KittKatt
...and as I say to my atheistic and agnostic friends, "Well, you may not believe in Him, but He sure believes in you, or you wouldn't have been put here in the first place and you wouldn't be here now!"
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...and as I say to my atheistic and agnostic friends, "Well, you may not believe in Him, but He sure believes in you, or you wouldn't have been put here in the first place and you wouldn't be here now!"
My sentiments exactly!

~KK~
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I'm SO glad. My beloved King Sunny-a-Cat was diagnosed with "asthma" at age two; it wasn't until much later that he got a sentence of FIP, and he was almost one for the Guinness Book of Records, because thanks to the miracles of Immunoregulin and B-12, he survived with a good quality of life almost five years after diagnosis, to just shy of 16 years. That's GREAT that your Winchester is in remission -- keep up the great work! and believe in him and in the course of treatment. Doctors are doing great things these days!
I'm sorry to hear that your beloved baby was misdiagnosed, but I'm happy to hear that he had a long & loving & fulfilling life! I was beginning to think that Winchester was misdiagnosed too, and the asthma thing crossed my mind on more than one occasion b/c I've heard that asthma is common in cats. I was considering taking him in to see another vet to get a second opinion, but the Interferon seems to be doing what it's supposed to be doing, and as I've said, Winchester is doing sooo much better! So as long as he's doing okay and doesn't have a relapse, I'll continue w/ the treatment....

~KK~
post #11 of 29
hi,
i just joined this group because i saw info on treating FIP when searching google. i adopted 5 cats from a shelter oct 06. one developed what was originally diagnosed as asthma, then later diabetes. he later developed fluid in teh lungs and it was apparent that it was FIP. sadly, Felix passed away.
one of our remaining cats has since developed troubling symptoms of diarrea, loss of weight and occassional fever. he has tested positive for FIP, and our vet has told us he will treat his symptoms to make him more comfortable, but there is little we can do. we love this little cat, and will do anything to treat him. our vet is a very good doctor, and a good freind of the family, and i know he has our interests at heart, but he is skeptical of any treatments.
what is immunoregulin, and where can i find it?
im willing to try anything that isnt too hard for him to take. he is a very sensitive, nervous cat, and i fear that anything too intrusive will bring his spirits down.he has only just turned one, the same age as all the others.
post #12 of 29
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hi,
i just joined this group because i saw info on treating FIP when searching google. i adopted 5 cats from a shelter oct 06. one developed what was originally diagnosed as asthma, then later diabetes. he later developed fluid in teh lungs and it was apparent that it was FIP. sadly, Felix passed away.
one of our remaining cats has since developed troubling symptoms of diarrea, loss of weight and occassional fever. he has tested positive for FIP, and our vet has told us he will treat his symptoms to make him more comfortable, but there is little we can do. we love this little cat, and will do anything to treat him. our vet is a very good doctor, and a good freind of the family, and i know he has our interests at heart, but he is skeptical of any treatments.
what is immunoregulin, and where can i find it?
im willing to try anything that isnt too hard for him to take. he is a very sensitive, nervous cat, and i fear that anything too intrusive will bring his spirits down.he has only just turned one, the same age as all the others.
Immunoregulin is an immune-system booster (strengthens the immune system so it can fight disease) and is available by injection through your veterinarian. My beloved King Sunny-A-Cat, diagnosed with asthma at around age 2, was later diagnosed with dry-form FIP and, with Immuno, B-12, and a lot of love, stayed with me for almost 16 wonderful years. Interferon is another drug that is said to be very benefical to FIP cats. Post on TCS and I'm sure other members can give you more information about Interferon, as well as about Immuno. To find out more about them clinically, you may want to use your search engine -- GoodSearch, Google, or whatever -- and input the names. GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR SWEET LITTLE BOY
post #13 of 29
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hi,
i just joined this group because i saw info on treating FIP when searching google. i adopted 5 cats from a shelter oct 06. one developed what was originally diagnosed as asthma, then later diabetes. he later developed fluid in teh lungs and it was apparent that it was FIP. sadly, Felix passed away.
one of our remaining cats has since developed troubling symptoms of diarrea, loss of weight and occassional fever. he has tested positive for FIP, and our vet has told us he will treat his symptoms to make him more comfortable, but there is little we can do. we love this little cat, and will do anything to treat him. our vet is a very good doctor, and a good freind of the family, and i know he has our interests at heart, but he is skeptical of any treatments.
what is immunoregulin, and where can i find it?
im willing to try anything that isnt too hard for him to take. he is a very sensitive, nervous cat, and i fear that anything too intrusive will bring his spirits down.he has only just turned one, the same age as all the others.
I feel your pain, and I can totally relate to how you're feeling. Besides Winchester, I just discovered yesterday that Geronimo is FIP positive too - only I fear Geronimo's situation is more severe than Winchester's, b/c he developed the fluid in his lungs, too - just the same as your Felix did (I just posted a thread about it). I'm really scared & worried that Geronimo won't have the same good outcome as Winchester has; he's not feeling well at all. I can only hope & pray that God will take care of him, and hopefully I got him to the vet in time.

I have no idea what Immunoregulin is: I've never heard of it till now. Winchester & Geronimo are being treated w/ the Interferon. Whatever treatment your vet administers to your babies, I hope that it will work for you, too. I will be sending good vibes your way.

I am soooo sorry you are having to go through this too, and I'm sorry to hear that you lost your babies to this horrible, dreadful disease. It is a heartbreaking experience - one in which I hope I never have to go through again.: not just for myself, but for my babies also...


~KK~
post #14 of 29
Truly, FIP is a scourge and we pray that it will be ended SOON. Immunoregulin, for those who don't know, is an immune-system booster (helps the body's natural defenses to fight against disease and related illnesses) which is widely used to treat FIP, cancer, and other serious illnesses in felines.

After losing my precious King Sunny-A-Cat to FIP, I was moved that the emergency clinic we went to at the last donated a sum in his name to finding the cure for FIP. Of course, that has not yet been achieved; we must continue to hope and pray, and network, and do the very best we can for our sweet ones!
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Immunoregulin, for those who don't know, is an immune-system booster (helps the body's natural defenses to fight against disease and related illnesses) which is widely used to treat FIP, cancer, and other serious illnesses in felines.
It sounds like the Immunoregulin is about the same thing as the Interferon, according to what my vet explained to me - an immune system booster. I wonder why some vets prescribe the Interferon, and others prescribe the Immunoregulin??

I suppose it doesn't matter, as long as it works.

Thanks for the explanation, Tarasgirl! You seem to know quite a bit about the FIP virus.

I'm beginning to have a "theory" as too why & how both Geronimo & Winchester have the FIP, but I'll save it for another day. Needless to say, it's been a long day since last night, and my brain is fried! I didn't get too much sleep last night, and am getting tired....


~KK~
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It sounds like the Immunoregulin is about the same thing as the Interferon, according to what my vet explained to me - an immune system booster. I wonder why some vets prescribe the Interferon, and others prescribe the Immunoregulin??

I suppose it doesn't matter, as long as it works.

Thanks for the explanation, Tarasgirl! You seem to know quite a bit about the FIP virus.

I'm beginning to have a "theory" as too why & how both Geronimo & Winchester have the FIP, but I'll save it for another day. Needless to say, it's been a long day since last night, and my brain is fried! I didn't get too much sleep last night, and am getting tired....


~KK~
I would be very interested in hearing your theory if and when you ever want to share it. I'm not sure what the difference is between Immuno and Interferon, as I have no experience with the latter but I do know it is prescribed for human patients as well, as a cancer drug I believe, though don't quote me on that.

Yes, sadly, I lost a beloved kitten to the FIP vaccine (nasal) I believe, though I couldn't prove it. She was healthy and happy prior to being vaccinated, and afterwards, she developed the "wet" form with alarming speed, and was gone before we could get her to the doctor. She had been due to go in in the morning, but sometime in the night, she went over the Bridge. And my beloved King Sunny-A-Cat was diagnosed with it and lived an almost record-book time on Immuno, B-12, and a premium diet, along with, of course! lots of LOVE. He was just shy of 16 when he left me...
post #17 of 29
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I would be very interested in hearing your theory if and when you ever want to share it.
My "theory" is posted in my other thread regarding Geronimo's FIP.

You gave me something else to consider, Tarasgirl. - your nasal vaccine "theory" But from my own experience, I don't think that's the case regarding Geronimo & Winchester, b/c Geronimo did have that vaccine, but Winchester didn't. And my other cats had it, too, and they're all okay. But I do know that my vet said he no longer administers the FIP vaccine, b/c he's learned that it can cause more harm than good. So maybe you're right about the vaccine causing your beloved baby to cross over..

This is all so very confusing!


~KK~
post #18 of 29
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Tarasgirl - P.S.....

I'd be very interested in hearing more about administering vitamin B-12 for Geronimo & Winchester! Do you have to get it from the vet? Or can you just get it from a pharmacy?? And how much and how often did you give it to your baby??

I'll do anything to prolong their lives, and keep them as comfortable & pain-free as possible!

~KK~
post #19 of 29
You said it!

It's like the food recall issue -- we're almost d#*(ed if we do and d@*(ed if we don't, and where can we go for safety? Especially for our cats??? My mom did not believe in vaccinating humans and fortunately, where and when I grew up, the thought police did not come down on her and put her in prison and call her a criminal for exercising her rights. As a result, I am one of the healthiest people I know, immune-system wise. (A good diet and lifestyle, also practiced by my parents and myself, probably doesn't hurt, either). So I tend to not believe in vaccinations or in much of anything western medicine touts. But when you have loved ones in your care, and they are your responsibility, what do you do when there are all these terrible diseases out there? Personally, I'm an advocate of indoors-only for cats, and that's where The Nine live, quite happily. And premium diets only, of course. But the rest? Sigh! I will have to read up about your beloved Geronimo.
post #20 of 29
OKAY, now I have read the history and I hope that, from my posts and hopefully others, you have gained some confidence. A diagnosis of FIP does not mean an imminent loss. My beloved Sun lived almost five quality years after being put on Immuno. He had the "dry" form of FIP.
post #21 of 29
I am so glad that finally some Cats are breaking through this deadly disease?
My Kitty Girl went down hill so fast...she lost so much weight in a short time. She acted like she was constipated all the time and her belly got so swollen. I kept taking her back and forth to the vet. First, he gave her antibiotics. then when she did not respond, he said there was no hope at all and I listened, I let him put her to sleep. Now I am wondering, could we have done something? He told me FIP was a death sentence and she was suffering. The last thing I wanted her to do was suffer. I stayed with her and held her until she was gone.. she looked really bad and was so weak..she was looking for a place to hide..so i figured she knew she had little time. I don't know!!
How about the swollen belly, is/was that any of ur cats syptoms?
post #22 of 29
Dear Laurie and Family:

My heart goes out to you for your loss -- but sadly, from what I know, your Kitty Girl had the "wet form" of FIP, which causes a terrible fluid buildup in the lungs and other organs and is the worse of the two forms of the disease. No, I'm afraid there was nothing you could have done, as far as I know, and I would have made the same decision if faced with it, for HER. You can rest as easy as it's possible to do: you did the right thing, from the best possible motivation, and I know Kitty Girl knows it. The fact that you have a nice cat family tells me you really love cats, and that is the BEST tribute possible to let Kitty Girl know SHE is loved as well. All the best to all of you.
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Thankyou so much for your response...What you said really did put me at ease. I posted (a few days ago) a Tribute to Kitty Girl on the "Rainbow Bridge Forum" God gave me Kitty Girl for a special reason....to open my home to other Cats that need love. Now, my goal is to get a bigger home, win the lotto and build a Cat Sanctuary..for all the older or unwanted cats left behind, so they can live out there lives in comfort and happiness...Hope someone above hears my plea!!
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Thankyou so much for your response...What you said really did put me at ease. I posted (a few days ago) a Tribute to Kitty Girl on the "Rainbow Bridge Forum" God gave me Kitty Girl for a special reason....to open my home to other Cats that need love. Now, my goal is to get a bigger home, win the lotto and build a Cat Sanctuary..for all the older or unwanted cats left behind, so they can live out there lives in comfort and happiness...Hope someone above hears my plea!!
We share the same goal. I realized mine for awhile, rescuing cats in our old neighborhood, getting them medicated and fixed, and adopting them. When we moved to the desert, I was able to have a small sanctuary on the acreage there. Now, divorced and forced to relocate, the family is smaller -- 9 plus one humble handmaid! -- and twelve were airlifted to safety to a sanctuary in Canada. But I hope to do sanctuary again someday, as it is my life's vocation, too. Bless you for caring and for opening your home and heart to your feline family, including Kitty Girl -- and I am sure she is looking down on you from the Rainbow Bridge with great approval and joy, because you are doing this important work and saving other cats!
post #25 of 29
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Laurie, I think I have to agree w/ Tarasgirl regarding her comments about your beloved kitty having the wet form of FIP, and you did the humane thing when you had her put to sleep. You probably saved her from alot of agony, and I'm sure she's grateful that you didn't let her suffer.

I'm sorry to hear that your baby didn't make it.

~KK~
post #26 of 29
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Laurie - P.S.

I don't know how long ago it was when you found out your baby had the FIP, but there was a time when a "sentence" of FIP meant a certain death. But from what I've read (and others have told me, such as Tarasgirl), they have now discovered the 2 different forms of FIP - the dry form and the wet form. The dry form can be treated, but the wet form can't be. And it sounds as if your baby had the wet form, which means there wasn't anything you could have done for her. I think you made the right decision.

~KK~
post #27 of 29
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So I tend to not believe in vaccinations or in much of anything western medicine touts.
I think you make a very valid point, Tarasgirl!

I never used to worry about getting my cats vaccinated when I lived back home in Wisconsin - and my cats used to go outside then. I never had any problems, either, although I'm sure the cold & bitter winters there had alot to do w/ it! There's something good to be said about those horrid Wisconsin winters! All the germs & viruses get killed off!

But ever since I moved to Texas, I've had nothing but problems: I'm sure the climate has something to do w/ it, but I'm beginning to believe that the vaccines can sometimes cause more harm than good.. Of the five cats that I now have, the two that WEREN'T vaccinated have NO problems! But the other three (Geronimo, Winchester, & Maverick) who WERE vaccinated, DO - although Maverick hasn't had the problems that Geronimo & Winchester do. He mainly just gets an occasional bout of the "sniffles", which seem to get cleared up w/ antibiotics....

So I'm beginning to believe that the vaccines CAN cause more harm than good sometimes..

~KK~
post #28 of 29
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Another thing:

Every winter, most people run to their doctors to get a flu vaccine - I never did. And I rarely get the flu or anythings else that most people catch. I've always been really healthy, just by eating properly and taking care of myself. But alot of people I know who DO get their annual flu shots, end up sicker than I do!

It's certainly food for thought.....




~KK~
post #29 of 29
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Another thing:

Every winter, most people run to their doctors to get a flu vaccine - I never did. And I rarely get the flu or anythings else that most people catch. I've always been really healthy, just by eating properly and taking care of myself. But alot of people I know who DO get their annual flu shots, end up sicker than I do!

It's certainly food for thought.....




~KK~
Same here! Think there is definitely something to be said for it (avoiding the junk food, eating right, getting enough sleep and having a good lifestyle, not smoking/drinking alcohol etc., and avoiding the drugs! both 'legal' and 'illegal'); and of course, vaccines are weakened versions of the diseases they are given to guard against, so it stands to reason that some individuals will develop the disease from the vaccine, as I believe my angel Koala Naomi did. I just got done looking at her photo album (I make one for everyone who goes over The Bridge, as a tribute/memorial, along with planting a plant over their resting place if they are buried, or just planting a plant if they are cremated, plus always adopting another needy cat, as I know they would wish!) and looking at her health history, short as it was -- she had just tested negative for all feline diseases, and in no time after the two FIP vaccines, she was gone, having developed very quickly, the distended abdomen and lethargy and sickness of wet-form FIP.
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