This North Korea stuff

carrie640

TCS Member
Thread starter
Super Cat
Joined
Dec 14, 2001
Messages
1,040
Purraise
205
Location
Michigan
Will someone please tell me what is going on?! I think I am MORE afraid of THIS than I am of Iraq! I just heard that N. Korea kicked the UN Inspectors out!

Umm..HELLO! Is it me or is that a bad sign??
 

kiwideus

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jul 4, 2002
Messages
13,901
Purraise
12
Location
Aotearoa
They did? This is all too scary. I just wish that country leaders would find it in their hearts to maintain peace all over the world. ALl this fighting is so pointless and it causes innocent lives to get lost. I hate it!
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #3

carrie640

TCS Member
Thread starter
Super Cat
Joined
Dec 14, 2001
Messages
1,040
Purraise
205
Location
Michigan
Or wait...they said THEY WOULD kick them. I guess they are watching some nuclear reactor thing or something over there like that....

It IS freaking me out. South Korea is our ally and if North Korea attacks South Korea...welllll..OF COURSE we get involved, but with BUSH (sorry..I am not a BUSH fan)...you know we will get involved anyway before any of the US gets taken care. We have problems of our own.

Please don't bash me because I hate Bush.....this stuff just scares me and I think with Iraq...he has a jones for Saddam because of Daddy Bush. GET OVER IT ALREADY.
 

peugeot

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Dec 26, 2002
Messages
45
Purraise
0
Location
Sydney, Australia
In our papers here it says that Australia will have to take the lead in sorting this out because we still have diplomatic ties to North Korea and are the only Western Country that does. I really sometimes think everyone should all calm down and keep out of everyone elses business. And I do agree that this is scarier than Iraq.
 

ldg

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 25, 2002
Messages
41,310
Purraise
842
Location
Fighting for ferals in NW NJ!
They're actually not UN Inspectors, they're International Nuclear Commission inspectors.

And they weren't kicked out of the country, they had to leave the plant. North Korea is going to start inserting the fuel rods.

The one thing the news never mentions is that it is JUST possible that they might be using the plant for electricity. We stopped shipping them fuel over a month ago and have been slowing shipments for years. North Korea has no natural resources, and the US has been breaking its agreements with them since 1985.

We (the U.S.) were supposed to have built North Korea a light water reactor with a delivery deadline over a year ago. (LIght water reactors do not produce as a by-product of the reaction Plutonium, which is the whole issue here. It's enriched uranium and plutonium that can be used to make nuclear weapons.)
 

peugeot

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Dec 26, 2002
Messages
45
Purraise
0
Location
Sydney, Australia
I agree with you on the Bush comments carrie640. Don't mean to stir up anything here, but as an Australian and therefore an outsider I felt much safer about the world when Clinton was in. I think Georgie is a bit too trigger happy.
 

ldg

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 25, 2002
Messages
41,310
Purraise
842
Location
Fighting for ferals in NW NJ!
...I just wanted to add that because of Iraq this is making the news in the way it is, but stuff like this (between the US and N. Korea) has been going on for decades. It's also more of an issue now because of S. Korea's changing relations with North Korea.

But North Korea has two or three nuclear weapons, biological and chemical weapons in HUGE quantities, and we've known about it for years. They also have over a one-million man standing army.

The only reason the U.S. hasn't taken on N. Korea before is because we can't. But NONE of these are new issues or NEW news.

China would never allow the U.S. to move against N. Korea anyway. Besides -we lost against them once this century already.

It sounds bad, but I wouldn't be too concerned. The U.S. has no intention of doing anything about it, and N. Korea gains nothing by using Nukes against anyone. THIS is all posturing.

The best thing that could happen is that it becomes such an over-riding issue that it prevents the US from going to war with Iraq because not having done anything about N. Korea becomes too "ironic" or whatever the right word here is. And "going to war" with N. Korea is not going to happen.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #8

carrie640

TCS Member
Thread starter
Super Cat
Joined
Dec 14, 2001
Messages
1,040
Purraise
205
Location
Michigan
I think that very well could be true what they are doing for electricity, etc, but we have sanctions on them for reasons....they cannot be trusted and if they have nothing to hide, why not let them in?

UGH. Sometimes I wish I were a Canadian! "Oh Canada..our home and native land.....!" lol
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #9

carrie640

TCS Member
Thread starter
Super Cat
Joined
Dec 14, 2001
Messages
1,040
Purraise
205
Location
Michigan
Ohhhh..CHINA! That is true! No...I wouldn't want to go up against China...NO WAY HO ZAY!
 

ldg

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 25, 2002
Messages
41,310
Purraise
842
Location
Fighting for ferals in NW NJ!
Flame me all you want. But I think Bush is an idiot, and that's why he scares me. I think he's turned this whole Middle East thing into a terrible situation, and this approach will NEVER resolve the problems between the Muslims and "the West."

The US hasn't even gotten any of the top 3 of al Qaida. bin Laden is still alive. We so easily forget that the Russians spent 10 years and lost 50,0000 - 60,000 men fighting in Afghanistan. And it played out just like it is for us. Quick rush the first year, but the enemy took to the ground - and then started making attacks against positions in the cities over several years.

It's just nuts. Heroin and opium product exports were down to an approximate 85 tonnes before we took out the Taliban. They esimate almost 1200 tonnes were shipped this year. Sorry - this Bush is an idiot.

Bush's father was smart, but he's the one who didn't finish the job in Iraq to begin with.
 

ldg

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 25, 2002
Messages
41,310
Purraise
842
Location
Fighting for ferals in NW NJ!
Carrie - of course we have sanctions against them for reasons! But if we were worried about the N. Koreans for having a heavy water facility, why not deliver the light water facility we were supposed to?
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #12

carrie640

TCS Member
Thread starter
Super Cat
Joined
Dec 14, 2001
Messages
1,040
Purraise
205
Location
Michigan
I am anti-Bush. I did not vote for him. "Saddam tried to hurt my daddy so now I am gonna have to hurt him just as soon as I wipe my eyes with that there kleenex".

You know....I haven't been following this the last few days...do we know if Iraq passed the inspections??? If they did...why don't we just get the hell out of there and let it go?


One other question though.....and I only ask because I am intrigued with learning more about this...... BUT...is this what the Bible is talking about with the end of the world coming? I mean...is this the start of it? Like I said...I don't know much about it and I am not trying to play some sort of religion thing, but I am just trying to understand and learn.
 

kiwideus

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jul 4, 2002
Messages
13,901
Purraise
12
Location
Aotearoa
Looks like there are a few anti-bush people here. I am one of them. I liked CLinton a lot, sure he made a mistake with that woman, but he did a real good job as president!
 

peugeot

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Dec 26, 2002
Messages
45
Purraise
0
Location
Sydney, Australia
I agree Kiwi, but then (and I hope I am right here), we are from the south Pacific and get a different view really. I mean, our Primeminister (Australian) is an idiot as well and due to his need to suck up to Georgie. He has placed us in danger for the first time in our history. I think they both have far too much testosterone buzzing through their veins.
 

kiwideus

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jul 4, 2002
Messages
13,901
Purraise
12
Location
Aotearoa
Yup Peugeot, Im from the south pacific too - Christchurch, New Zealand is my home
Whereabouts in Sydney are you from? I stayed at a family friends at Collaroy Beach back in '90.
 

peugeot

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Dec 26, 2002
Messages
45
Purraise
0
Location
Sydney, Australia
I live at Bondi Beach, about a 2 minute walk. Never been to NZ though am hoping too next year to go skiing...it's cheaper and better than Aus. What are you doing in the US?
 

hissy

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Feb 19, 2001
Messages
34,872
Purraise
77
Did anyone hear the blurb on CNN? Something about Iraq purchased 350 motor homes recently, but they seem to have vanished? Isn't it fairly simple to turn an RV into a refrigeration unit?
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #18

carrie640

TCS Member
Thread starter
Super Cat
Joined
Dec 14, 2001
Messages
1,040
Purraise
205
Location
Michigan
A refrigeration unit???

Why would you need that? Again...I am a little slow when it comes to this scientific stuff!
 

kiwideus

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jul 4, 2002
Messages
13,901
Purraise
12
Location
Aotearoa
Peugeot, I am in the US because I married an american. If you go skiing, I recommend you go to Mt Hutt, its a great skifield and I used to go there all the time.

That is scary Hissy, I could be wrong but it does sound like that they may use them as refrigeration units because all they would need to do is modify a few things. But then again, wouldnt a refrigerator truck have the same effect?
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #20

carrie640

TCS Member
Thread starter
Super Cat
Joined
Dec 14, 2001
Messages
1,040
Purraise
205
Location
Michigan
Help! Why do they need refrigeration units???
 
Top