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I am so angry at Petsmart

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
They are now SELLING rabbits. How pathetic

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....65&p=factset02


I can't buy from them anymore. Their excuse that they are all spayed and neutered just doesn't cut it. Where are they coming from, rabbit mills now.

I have found alternate places to purchase everything I get from Petsmart.
This sucks
post #2 of 33
Well there goes the 8 for the price of one. That's how I got my 2 guinea pigs back in college. I bought one, and 2 months later the 2nd err..popped out (if you will).
post #3 of 33
UGH! Why? Why do they have to sell the rabbits? They say they already partner with rabbit adoption places and that they don't see the sale of the dwarf rabbits as being competitive with the adoption rabbits. Anything for a buck. From rabbits, it is just a small step to kittens.

There is simply no good reason to do this other than for profit.

"Our decision to sell dwarf rabbits does not change our relationship with adoption agencies who facilitate rabbit adoptions. Our customers like to have a choice when deciding to add a pet to their family so we’ll continue to support in-store adoptions of rabbits in addition to selling this specific variety of rabbit in select stores."
post #4 of 33
Thread Starter 
Here is a petition from Best Friends urging Petsmart not to sell rabbits.
Please sign it.

And the "reputable breeders" Petsmart says it gets their rabbits from sounds JUST like what the pet stores say about their puppies.

http://network.bestfriends.org/Petit...cabd781f1da8c6
post #5 of 33
I signed it!!! I'm also going to be finding another site to order from until this all goes away.... (difficult for me to find a place that will ship to an APO box... but Petsmart is stepping over the line here).
post #6 of 33
Thread Starter 
Thank you much Ali.
post #7 of 33
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Originally Posted by Bonnie1965 View Post
...There is simply no good reason to do this other than for profit....
Well, c'mon, don't be so naive. That's the ONLY reason to be in business. If enough people don't like the way that they're doing business and take their trade elsewhere, they'll get the message. If something they do hurts their profit, they'll stop doing it.
post #8 of 33
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Originally Posted by coaster View Post
Well, c'mon, don't be so naive. That's the ONLY reason to be in business. If enough people don't like the way that they're doing business and take their trade elsewhere, they'll get the message. If something they do hurts their profit, they'll stop doing it.
It is possible to be in business and still be ethical. If these people cared as much about animals as they claim to, they would not do this. In my mind, if you make a claim, you had better back it up. Just my lil ol' naive opinion.
post #9 of 33
I don't shop at Petland, because they sell puppies and kittens. Recently, they had mixed breed kittens and were asking $195 for them. Good grief, the Humane Society charges $95 and THAT includes shots, S/N and microchipping.
post #10 of 33
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Originally Posted by Bonnie1965 View Post
It is possible to be in business and still be ethical. If these people cared as much about animals as they claim to, they would not do this. In my mind, if you make a claim, you had better back it up.
No business would do anything ONLY if it was ethical. It it was ethical, and it lost money, they would either call it a non-profit charity, or they'd go out of business. They're doing it because they figure it's going to make money. Either their ethics are different, or they didn't enter in. In either case, vote with your feet.
post #11 of 33
As I said, it is possible to be a business and be ethical. I already do vote with my feet, my wallet and my mouth. That is not the point. The point is that you have decided I am a naive fool. Of course, I am not.

Businesses are composed of people who make decisions. If they decide that profit is more important than the statements/image they make/project to the public, they are not ethical. This is a clear case of such. They already have an adoption program but seems that wasn't bringing in enough moolah. Now they have to sell them as well.
post #12 of 33
Wait... don't they already sell pets? Why is the addition of rabbits to the ferrets, guineas, birds, reptiles, fish, etc making people boycott?

They've adopted out considerably more cats and dogs than other pet stores, and, I think I'll keep shopping there to support that. Better them than stores that don't adopt out any dogs, cats, or rabbits for that matter.
post #13 of 33
I question selling them ... As I am looking to add a bunny to my house but after LOTS of reading am wondering if it would be a good fit ... Spayed and neuterd is a good thing
post #14 of 33
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My brother and SIL have 7 rescue dogs, 1 rescue cat, 1 rescue Rooster, 1 rescue horse and 2 rescue rabbits. They say that the rabbits are, by far, the most work to take care of. You need to be pretty dedicated to take proper care of rabbits. Most people are not that dedicated IMO.
post #15 of 33
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
My brother and SIL have 7 rescue dogs, 1 rescue cat, 1 rescue Rooster, 1 rescue horse and 2 rescue rabbits. They say that the rabbits are, by far, the most work to take care of. You need to be pretty dedicated to take proper care of rabbits. Most people are not that dedicated IMO.
Yeah I realized that after reading like three books... NO most are nt dedicated thou the local rescue tells you how easy it is ... i then asked alot of rabiit ownsers current and past and found out it could be done but it is like taking on another small dog
post #16 of 33
I have mixed feelings on this.

I did sign the petition though.
post #17 of 33
me too. I think they really need some new marketing people and need to really re-evaluate their long term plans and goals, as they are not headed in the right direction and it seems like they are not keeping up for the long term IMO of course. Their reptile section is always so upsetting to me as well, each species is not cared for as they should be, their care sheets are outdated, and their staff is generally not very knowledgeable at least in reptiles. Their dog training is a one size fits all, they actually want people without dog training experience so they can make them watch a video and then that qualifies them to be a trainer!! (which anyone with multiple dogs understands dogs aren't one size fits all, they are all different, what works best for one dog might not work for another, good individual smart trainers there can get around that though if they have past dog experience and common sense).
post #18 of 33
I stopped shopping there when I learned where their birds come from.
I applaud their adoption sites, but until they completely stop selling live animals, I will not shop there.
post #19 of 33
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Wait... don't they already sell pets? Why is the addition of rabbits to the ferrets, guineas, birds, reptiles, fish, etc making people boycott?
That's what I was thinking.
post #20 of 33
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• We won’t sell rabbits in the two weeks preceding Easter.
Wow, thanks guys... you're showing such initiative there.

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we have chosen to price the rabbits at $99.99. At this price, the pet parent is much more inclined to stop and think through their purchase rather than buy on impulse, a practice PetSmart strongly discourages.
Oh yes, because a store you can walk into and buy hundreds of different animals, bringing them out in paper boxes with the flash of a credit card discourages impulse buying.

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Also, because of the specialized nature of rabbit care, the cost of spay/neutering can vary from $50-$75 in low cost clinics to hundreds of dollars in metropolitan areas, so, the rabbits PetSmart offers are a great value.
If they are that great a value, how are you preventing impulse purchases?

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• As with our other pets, we take our responsibility seriously when it comes to selling them. We make sure our associates are well equipped to answer customers’ questions about the pet and determine if it’s the right fit.
As mentioned above... flash of the credit card, ladies and gents. I have actually been pressured by employees there to buy lizards, ferrets, budgies, and large birds (ie macaws, cockatoos) because they were cute and I was talking to them. The only "fit" anyone here is talking about is how well my money fits into their pocket.

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We provide customers with the tools to help them make a responsible decision and deliver the proper care and attention needed for their pet.
I have yet to see Petsmart or Petco selling cages large enough for a rabbit.

And don't get me started on the bags of dyed, poisoned, unidentified animal parts they sell under the pretenses of "food."

I bet you all have heard enough now.. I'm shutting up.
post #21 of 33
here we have a place called pets at home they sell rabbits,GP etc.. but they had mixed males with females in the same dens so you would buy from them only to end up with a pregnant female. so at least this other place they are going to be neutered,spayed before being rehomed. out pets at home have now stoped selling birds *finally* and there have been no signs of rabbits or GPs either. but i really dont see the problem with them selling spayed/neutered Rabbits? if its not them selling them it will be someone else who may not spay/neuter before they are homed, so whats worse?
post #22 of 33
I signed it and sent it to 5 friends who I know will really circulate it. Hope it helps!

What is unusual here is that the Petsmart Charities section of their company would probably not support this either. They are all about responsible care and treatment for animals as well as training, funding, and education for people like us who are really into responsible animal parenting; and for shelters and groups who care for animals everywhere.

I bet they are not thrilled about this new venture on the part of their company.
post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by XxtashaxX View Post
but i really dont see the problem with them selling spayed/neutered Rabbits? if its not them selling them it will be someone else who may not spay/neuter before they are homed, so whats worse?
While I agree, given your example, this is the lesser of two evils, you have to realize where most big box stores get their stock from here in the US, breeding mills.
post #24 of 33
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Originally Posted by Arlyn View Post
While I agree, given your example, this is the lesser of two evils, you have to realize where most big box stores get their stock from here in the US, breeding mills.
I didnt relise that, here in London its not atall unusual to see Rabbits in pet stores among other small animals.I dont agree with this and will always go to a rescue, but at least this other place is spaying and neutering, if only it was like this in the UK but i think i would have a heart attack if i went in to my local pet shop and saw them selling rabbits that had already been fixed. i must admit i dont know a whole lot about breeding mills etc so i cant really comment , i just hope i dont come across any.

i do see the point especially since they help rescues home there rabbits.
i dont think i could sign it anyway as im in the UK.
post #25 of 33
I was thinking about this thread last night. You know what I find the funniest part about all this?

When Petsmart first opened up by where I lived (10 years ago) I was in the market for a guinea pig. I went in there looking for one, and asked the help where they were. I remember being told by Petsmart -at that time- that they don't keep small animals because of the impulse buying and that often times the pets are returned a week or month later by the parents (once the novelty has worn off).

Five years later someone must have trumped that idea (or needed more money in their pockets) because that store began to sell small animals.

Luckily they're no where near where I live and they're higher prices deter me from that drive. Businesses like that really make me cynical about economics as its just a drive for money. I personally really have a hard time believe that any business would be ethical.
post #26 of 33
I hate the idea of buying pets from any pet store. You pretty much know they are from animal mills. It's just sad to encourage this type of selling. I wish people knew of all the other ways to get animals besides pet stores.
post #27 of 33
Ugh. Rabbits. They ARE alot of work. And so many end up in shelters. I remember that all too well.

I still shop at Petco and Petsmart only because my alternative is worse. The alternative not only sells fish and small animals, but puppymill puppies and sometimes kittens.

I encourage anyone looking for a pocket pet/rabbit/ferret/chinchilla/etc to stop at your local shelter first. That's where I got my gerbil and mouse from. And some of my fish. I still have one of the fish, although my mouse and gerbie are no longer with us. *sniff*
post #28 of 33
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Originally Posted by littleraven7726 View Post
I encourage anyone looking for a pocket pet/rabbit/ferret/chinchilla/etc to stop at your local shelter first. That's where I got my gerbil and mouse from. And some of my fish. I still have one of the fish, although my mouse and gerbie are no longer with us. *sniff*
Yep, at the Oregon HS, the rabbits are $35 and smaller animals like mice, hamsters and rats are $5. Definitely the way to go.
post #29 of 33
ugh... I signed it... agreed... there are SO many bunnies in the shelters, I mean look up Bunnies in Petfinder & adoption fees for them are WAY less than the $99 PetSmart is charging (which isn't even the issue) its the fact that there is no need for these petstore bunnies, when there are so many great adoptable ones.

& I agree 100% about the HORRIBLE care on the Reptiles. As a Corn Snake breeder myself and Reptile enthusist, I get SO sad while passing the reptile section, attempts to make a difference have failed. Because what their "sheets" say are GOSPEL & they will not hear any thing else.
post #30 of 33
ok may i ask where does the rabbits end up if the pet shops dont take them in, rescues? maybe neglated ?
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