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post #1 of 16
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stripes has 5 different colors on him but as you can see tabby is his main pattern and coloring. he has pure white, tan, both dark and light grey, and black. what would that make him? my mother thinks that makes him a calico but i'm not sure. his mother was a calico though.





and Sadie like him but different. she has mostly a wide range of grey with flecks of orangeish tan and white. the white is mostly on her chest, stomach, paws and tail.

the pics kinda blury but you can see the colors clearly. the rest of her body looks pretty much like that w/o the white.

these pics are better but farther away.


http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62844

What can you tell me?

P.S. Sorry about the size of the pics, i don't have a program to edit them anymore, i don't know where it went.
post #2 of 16
Stripes is what they would call a Brown and Black Classic Tabby with White, I believe. And Sadie is a Diluted Calico.

You should resize your pictures so they are smaller though.. I think some of them are over the maximum.
post #3 of 16
Stripes, I think, is just a "plain brown tabby". In order to be a calico/tort the cat has to be a tri-color meaning white, tan or gray or any shade of those, and ginger or orange. He's a super cute tabby though. I love the pic of him concked out in the bed.

Sadie is what I would call a dulite tortie. She is a tri-color but her colors are somewhat faded looking which is the dilute part. And tortie because she's more colored than white.

Of course, I'm not a breeder or show owner so all I know I've learned here and I learn more every day.
post #4 of 16
I'd say Stripes is a brown and white classic tabby and Sadie is a dilute tortoiseshell.
post #5 of 16
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yeah, i didn't think they were actual calico's. i have seen true calicoes and they aren't it. mother thinks that calico means just more than 2 colors. and male calicoes are worth money so she didn't want to get is neutered. i can now tell her that he can. thanks.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by ILoveMyKitty View Post
yeah, i didn't think they were actual calico's. i have seen true calicoes and they aren't it. mother thinks that calico means just more than 2 colors. and male calicoes are worth money so she didn't want to get is neutered. i can now tell her that he can. thanks.
A lot of people believe that. It's amazing how many times I'll see people trying to find homes for "calicos" that are actually "torties". Lucy, our foster kitty, came from an owner who thought she was a calico and she isn't. Personally, I love torties, which is why we have 5 in our house.
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by ILoveMyKitty View Post
yeah, i didn't think they were actual calico's. i have seen true calicoes and they aren't it. mother thinks that calico means just more than 2 colors. and male calicoes are worth money so she didn't want to get is neutered. i can now tell her that he can. thanks.

Even if he was a calico, he would not be worth any money, he's of no pedigree.
Talk your mom into getting him fixed.
post #8 of 16
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Even if he was a calico, he would not be worth any money, he's of no pedigree.
Talk your mom into getting him fixed.
Also, MOST male calicos are infertile anyway.
post #9 of 16
That looks like a handsome classic tabby to me!

I enjoyed this site:
http://www.seregiontica.org/Colors/intro.htm

Your list of colors didn't mention "red" and since the calico coloring is a tricolor it needs to have red:
"A true tricolor must have one of its colors derived from the red gene -- either red (orange) or cream (kind of a light, orangy beige, not unlike the color many people call "ginger"). If it does not have one of these two colors, it is not a true tricolor. The second color must be white, and the third color must be black, blue (a blue-gray), chocolate, lilac (a pale rose-beige), cinnamon, or fawn (a pale buff color). Black and blue are by far the most common."
From this site: http://www.fanciers.com/cat-faqs/tricolors.shtml
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
thanks for the info.
post #11 of 16
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That looks like a handsome classic tabby to me!

I enjoyed this site:
http://www.seregiontica.org/Colors/intro.htm

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Thanks for that website!
post #12 of 16
Re. Male calico/tortie cats:

Calico: Large patches of red, black, and white (or their dilutes).
Tortoiseshell: Small patches of red and black (maybe with some white).

You know how a male has XY genes, and a female has XX genes? Well, the XX is the only way to get calico, because each X has either red or brown, and you have to have two X to have both--thus calico/tortie cats are girls.

There's a mutation that causes a cat to have XXY instead of the normal genetics. (In humans, it's called Klinefelter Syndrome, and results in an intersexed child with mostly male characteristics.) Anyway, such a cat will look mostly male; and--since he has two X chromosomes, like a female--he can also be a tortie or a calico. Cats with this mutation are usually healthy but almost always sterile.

The exception is an XXY cat with mosaicism--that is, two different genetic patterns scattered throughout the body. In this case, some of his cells are XY and some are XXY. If his reproductive system has mostly XY cells, he can be fertile; but the surviving sperm will pass on only the normal X or Y, and the kittens inherit normal genotypes--and thus normal fur colorings as well.

Because an XXY mutation is not passed on to the kittens in the rare event that the cat is fertile, a tortie or calico tom has no value to breeders. He is, however, quite a conversation piece!
post #13 of 16
Brown classic tabby and white and I'll take the others word for the dilute calico - snax ate the pic!

Love the markings, very clear and defined
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
here is new resized photos of Sadie. i figured out that photobucket resizes them quite nicely.



post #15 of 16
Oh, definitely a dilute calico! And what a pretty face, too--it reminds me a little of a doll-face Persian's face, with the short nose and big eyes.
post #16 of 16
He looks like my female cat Misty who is a grey and white tabby and she has some brown, grey, black in her. I just call her a tabby but there are different names for the stripe pattern as I had a male cat named Max and he was a Mackeral.


My other cat Taffy is a calico and that is usually three distinct colors as mine is orange, black and white giant spots. Like a pinto which is a three colored pony.

Taffy & Misty I Love,

Anne
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