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HELP! urinary tract problem with Rembrandt

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Hi...I usually can get more information here than anywhere. My cat was showing signs of UTI , going outside the box , frequent urination. He was on clavamox for one week, symptoms went away. Two weeks later, same problem. I took him to the vet they did all kinds of tests and put him on Baytril twice a day. He had been on it for over two weeks, I called the vet, they were not very helpful. I changed vets today. He did an xray and it showed no stones but an abornally shaped bladder. He put him back on clavamox and put him on an anti inflammatory. Anyone else have problems like this? He is ony 2. Is anyone familiar with homeopathic doctors for cats? It seems all these antibiotics can not be good for him. (he is eating a good diet of wet Natural instinct by Healthy pet net and Felidae dry, he hsa a fountain for water which is cleaned weekly. By other cat has not problems.
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I am fairly well versed in alternative medicine and animals...

Does any of the food he eats contain fish???
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Did you take in a urine sample? can you possibly collect a sample and feel it with you fingers ro look at it in good light? If you feel or see small gritty material, he has struvite crystals. My Fang had them and I am becoming quite the expert. Two years is when he developed them. They are controlled by acidifying his diet and there are many ways to do that, and you should check the ph of his urine. You can search my name on this site and find a lot of links on this subject. It is important to not fool around though, because if it is crystals, it could block the urine and kill the cat. The other thing is you don't want it to continue because with frequent bouts of crystals, there will be scraping inside the ureatha, causing scar tissue, narrowing the opening, making urination more painful and difficult,and after time, impossible. The solution for that is removal of the penis, and making a new opening for urination. When I was very young and stupid, I had to ahve this done for a cat. Unfortunately, we didn't have TCS then, or I would have been able do things differently. Not sure if we had as much info re: the problem either.

But I digress, all the info you need is right here. Just keep him peeing until you determine the cause and the solution.
post #4 of 5
I assume some of these vets he has seen did a urinalysis? The most critical info, is what is the pH of the urine? Did they find crystals in it?

I honestly believe that in young cats, the cause is very rarely bacterial. I do think that bacteria sets up shop in the bladder as a result of irritation from crystals and other debris but the root cause isn't usually bacteria (in young cats). Antibiotics have a hard time getting to the bladder. Some have a better concentration when they get there than others, but it's still tough to clear up bladder infections sometimes. Urine, lots of it, of the right pH is the best thing to keep things clean and working correctly.

In the case of antibiotics, I think 10 days is the minimum to clear up a true infection, though. 2 weeks is not that uncommon.

Struvite crystals form in alkaline urine and are common in cats that age. My Beandip wasn't yet 2 years old when his trouble began. It took a year and a half of trying different medicines, different diets, etc before we found the right solution(s) for him. He still has his moments, but they are few and far between now. To make a long story short, I took away the dry food (he eats raw now) and I use a urine acidifier to help keep his pH in the right range. Some cats on a diet like that can get away without the acidifiers, which would be ideal - but I'm not yet convinced that Beandip can do without them. We'll see.

There is another type of crystal that forms in overly acidic urine, but those (calcium oxalate) aren't too common in younger cats. Over-doing the acidifiers can cause those, though. Monitoring pH, to make sure it's not too high and not too low is very important.

A lot of stones aren't visible with xray. Another thing is that from what I've seen, trouble with crystals can be intermittent. If the pH is running a bit high on a consistent basis then there are probably some crystals forming sometimes but not necessarily on every urine test.

I can go on and on but those are the high points.
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The doctor said no crystals. Both doctors did a urinalysis. His bladder is mishapen. The doctor was concerned about that too. He said it could be that way because of the inflammation.
This is the cat I had such a hard time finding a food that didnt make him throw up. This is the one but I notice it does have fish oil and shrimp in it. What is a better food?
I had spoken to you before about his sensitive stomach. Do you think the fish and shrimp could be causing this?

INGREDIENTS: Organic Chicken, Chicken Liver, Chicken Broth, Turkey, Chicken Meal (Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols), Shrimp, Fish Oil, Ground Agropyron Repens Grass, Calcium Sulfate, Guar Gum, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Choline Chloride, Sea Salt, Taurine, Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, D3, B12 Supplements, Thiamine Mononitrate, Niacin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin), Inulin, Rosemary, L-Carnitine.

ASH (MAX.) 2.20%
TAURINE (MIN.) 0.10%

The felidae dry he only eats occasionally.

Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat, (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbic Acid), Menhaden Fish Meal, Eggs, Flax Seed Meal, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Lecithin, Nutritional Yeast, Natural Flavors, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Amaranth, DL Methionine, Taurine, Kelp, Cranberry Meal, Apple Meal, Probiotics, (Freeze Dried Streptococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Freeze Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product), Vitamins A, D-Activated Animal Sterol Vitamin D3, Vitamin E, Vitamin B12, Riboflavin, Niacin, Choline Chloride, Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine-Hydrochloride, Thiamin, Biotin, Amino Acid Chelated Minerals, Zinc, Manganese, Iron, Copper, Cobalt, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Bacillus Subtilis, Yeast Culture, Yucca Schidigera Extract.

Guaranteed Analysis - Formulated with Low PH
Crude Protein (min.) 32%
Omega-3 Fatty Acids (min.) .75%
Crude Fat (min.) 20%
Linoleic Acid (min.) 3.70%
Crude Fiber (max.) 2.50%
Magnesium (max.) .095%
Moisture (max.) 9%
Taurine (min.) .20%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids (min.) 3.75%
Ash (min.) 5.50%
Digestive Enzymes (min.) 1.50%

I also give them pumpkin a couple times a week to keep them regular.

I am at my wits end...and extremely nervous about this.
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