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this is just sick,

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
i think this has to rank in my top 5 of the wrost stories i have come accross.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070713/...Jhn0yGN55vzwcF

IMO those teens should have there manhood removed with rusty spoon(or saw) there is no reason at all these kids should ever see the light of day again.

after they are found gulity of course.
post #2 of 26
If it's that bad I can't look. How about giving some cliff notes.
post #3 of 26
**CKBLV if you didn't catch what I wrote PM me and I will give you some cliff notes**

This is one bad bad story. I think this almost tops 2 other older but bad ones I read earlier.
post #4 of 26
wait wait wait, WHAT? They forced the mom to give oral sex to her son?
post #5 of 26
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Originally Posted by Roimata View Post
wait wait wait, WHAT? They forced the mom to give oral sex to her son?
i cant link the other new story, my work internet is blocking that news site,
but after that they forced him to rape his mother, or they said they would kill her(at least that is what the other news site said)
post #6 of 26
This is absolutely sickening, when I first read it I couldn't believe what I was reading, and to think these kids that did this are so young, it's scary to think how much worse they can get if they don't put them away.
post #7 of 26
Man thats messed up. I have no idea how people do those things.
post #8 of 26
Good Lord. I have no words for this.
post #9 of 26
that is horrible

man......too bad the cops from our area didn't handle that case
post #10 of 26
It really is disturbing to read stories like this. It is amazing to me that there are people out there that can do such horrible things to a fellow human being.
post #11 of 26
OMG their kids as well! Talk about being traumatized for life

I wouldn't give them counselling either before anyone mentions it here. They need punished, and badly at that after putting this woman and her son through what has to have been their worst living nightmare.
post #12 of 26
What the is wrong with people?!?

I can't believe how people act, & treat others. It's absolutely disgusting. They all deserve to be punished severely.

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IMO those teens should have there manhood removed with rusty spoon(or saw) there is no reason at all these kids should ever see the light of day again.
post #13 of 26
I will be there with that rusty spoon. That is just so sick and wrong.

What the is wrong with these teenagers? Did they really honestly think this was OK or funny?
post #14 of 26
Its the AGES of these perps, that bothers me. Kids that age are supposed to be into sports and video games. WHAT kind of upbringing have they had?

I wonder if they're even redeemable? When you you start your life of crime, with such a major felony, at such a young age, WHERE do you go from there?
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by katl8e View Post
I wonder if they're even redeemable? When you you start your life of crime, with such a major felony, at such a young age, WHERE do you go from there?
I'm not sure this is where they started, though -- didn't the police already have their fingerprints on file? (That's how they knew who did it, right?) In all likelihood, though, there were warning signs out there that these kids were seriously ed up. You don't just wake up one day and think Hey, I think I'm gonna go commit a violent crime -- you start out by torturing animals, or being a peeping tom, or committing other violent (and often sexual) acts.

I hate how the media always asks the parents of violent young offenders to comment. What are the parents supposed to say? "Wow, my son is messed up!" Most of the time, if the parents say anything at all, it's "My son would never do such a thing" or "He's such a good boy at home."

One thing I did find surprising, though ... How come the media is allowed to release the names of the boys? Aren't they protected under some kind of juvenile offender act? (They would be here. They could do the same horrific things in Canada, and we'd never know who they were -- which, in this particular case, I'm not sure I can agree with. I don't think they should be protected by anonymity.)
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mirinae View Post
I hate how the media always asks the parents of violent young offenders to comment. What are the parents supposed to say? "Wow, my son is messed up!" Most of the time, if the parents say anything at all, it's "My son would never do such a thing" or "He's such a good boy at home."

One thing I did find surprising, though ... How come the media is allowed to release the names of the boys? Aren't they protected under some kind of juvenile offender act? (They would be here. They could do the same horrific things in Canada, and we'd never know who they were -- which, in this particular case, I'm not sure I can agree with. I don't think they should be protected by anonymity.)
I agree with your first paragraph. I have yet to hear a parent of a violent offender say "Yep, I :censored: them up. Perhaps I shouldn't have beaten them so much or set a curfew for them" Although to many of us it would be marvolous to hear that.

As for releasing the names, it's all about permissions. I'm surprised too that someone permitted the names to be released, but usually the police need to have permission from either the lawyers or the parents. I could be wrong though...lately I am...
post #17 of 26
So sick, so twisted. I am saddened for the woman and her son.

As for the names, typically they only withhold the names if they are the victims. If they are the offenders, they do tend to release the names. *shrug*
post #18 of 26
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So sick, so twisted. I am saddened for the woman and her son.

As for the names, typically they only withhold the names if they are the victims. If they are the offenders, they do tend to release the names. *shrug*
That is some twisted (*bleep*).

Mirinae, they do not release the names in Canada (either offender or victim) due to our Youth Offender's Act. I suppose it's different in the US.

There HAS to be more to the story than what we are seeing, though nobody deserves this type of violent abuse.
I am guessing that the 12 year old was also in the gang and did somebody wrong. This is remniscent of what organized mature gang members do in terms of retribution but these kids are just well...kids!!!
post #19 of 26
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i think, if the names are released then those kids will be, charged as adults,
or so i think, it could be wrong, and i should be sleeping soooo.
post #20 of 26
That is beyond disturbing... I hope they rot in hell... Am I allowed to say that? Even if Im not, that is how I feel!
post #21 of 26
All I can think of beyond "that is sick" is what kind of life did the perps have that made them choose this kind ofr life? What put such sick thoughts in their head? Why????
post #22 of 26
What is even sadder is that the housing development is so bad that a crime like this generates comments like "So a lady was raped. Big deal," resident Paticiea Matlock said with disgust. "There's too much other crime happening here." There are so many areas that are just forgotten in this country.
post #23 of 26
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What is even sadder is that the housing development is so bad that a crime like this generates comments like "So a lady was raped. Big deal," resident Paticiea Matlock said with disgust. "There's too much other crime happening here." There are so many areas that are just forgotten in this country.
I'm shocked once again. I read the article and the reactions from the police and the neighbors... good god. I'll give the residents the benefit of the doubt and assume they're so focused on their own survival that the callousness and uncaring is due to that survival response. But the cops to have just basically given up, given the neighborhood to the thugs and criminals... That may be the reality, that they don't have the manpower etc., but that's just horrible to basically tell the people that they can just fend for themselves.
post #24 of 26
Wow, that article breaks my heart..
To imagine a housing project that mirrors the violence of war-torn third world countries in a country like the US is horrifying and saddening..

It's obviously very telling that one of the rapists mother's was a victim of attempted rape just a couple days before the attack...

Both of these youths have lived such terrible childhoods already that really...they can't even be called children anymore.
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
What is even sadder is that the housing development is so bad that a crime like this generates comments like "So a lady was raped. Big deal," resident Paticiea Matlock said with disgust. "There's too much other crime happening here." There are so many areas that are just forgotten in this country.
And this illustrates your point perfectly
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Laurel Robinson, head of the city's housing authority, said that up until about four years ago, the federal government provided the city with $160,000 a year for security in public housing projects, but Congress did away with the money.

"Every family housing project in the country has suffered because of it," she said.
Crime rates have been creeping up again, so I suspect there's a correlation.
post #26 of 26
Disturbing.

I'd say what I would do to those responsible for this but it would cast me in a rather bad light so I'll keep my mouth shut.
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