Spaying stray cats?

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My parents have a few stray cats living behind their house. One of the cats, Bobtail, was hanging around my apartment as a kitten. I took it out to my parents' house because they own a home out in the country with fields and woods that is safer than the city. They had planned to bring it to a woman who runs a kill-free shelter, but it escaped from its carrier, so it's remained at my parents' property. We found that it is too wild to attempt to catch again and domesticate. Bobtail is happy where he is, but the problem is he has attracted a couple of female cats. The females keep having babies. Only a few of the kittens have survived - I don't know whether Bobtail is killing them, or it is other predators.

One of the cats, Big Gulp (my dad named her, lol), had a couple of kittens a month or two ago. We don't know if they've survived because she used to keep them near the house, but now my parents don't see them anymore. My dad did see one running from the back porch a week ago, so maybe they're hidden somewhere. There are 3 males cats Big Gulp has been mating with several times this week, so we figure the kittens are either gone or on their own. We're taking Big Gulp in to be spayed tomorrow. I feel like the cats are my responsibility because I brought Bobtail out to the farm. My dad feels bad because he's the one that let him out of the carrier - he feeds him every night, and so they've got the other cats coming too. We want the females to be spayed because they don't want to end up with a colony of cats, and it can't be healthy for the cats to keep having litters. My question has to do with a female cat, Gray - she is, we think, at least 4 years old. She is pregnant once again, and we will have to wait to have her spayed. But, is there an age when cats stop having kittens? Is there a higher risk of problems with the spaying if we spay an older cat? Also, Big Gulp, who we're bringing in tomorrow, is pretty skittish. We can't pet her, though she's used to people. We trapped her this evening (in a "friendly" trap), and made an appt. for tomorrow morning. We warned the vet that this cat is stray and isn't used to being touched. She's doing well now in her makeshift cat carrier (a metal cage with blankets), but will they sedate her before she's taken out of the carrier? I'm afraid she'll go wild otherwise. Sorry for all the questions. I can't believe that the Humane Society won't do more. My parents and I aren't made of money, but we don't meet the guidelines for reduced cost spaying. So we're kind of on our own dealing with this.
 

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I'm not sure where to start with my answer. First of all, THANK YOU for taking the cats in to get spayed. I lived in an area very similar to your fathers for 13 years and there is an extremely high mortality rate in kittens born to these environments. When kittens came around, we grabbed them before they killed or became feral like their parents and found them homes. We then worked on getting the adult cats fixed.

An adult female can have kittens indefinitely. I'm not sure the exact age but I've heard that they can continue over 10 years old. So Gray will continue to produce kittens and no, she's not too old to be spayed. I've had 10 year olds fixed in the past with no problems at all.

Did you ask the vet to use dissolvable stitches on Big Gulp? If she is that skittish, you might not get her back to the vet to have her stitches removed.

Vets see all kinds of cats and I can tell you that some of the feral ones that I've brought to them over the years behaved better than the tame ones. A good vet will be prepared for the worst (you've warned them which is good), but often times a feral cat will become so terrified in the vets office that they go limp. That is a good thing. If you were to have used a humane trap, vets have protocals where they turn the cage up on its end and just sedate while they are in the trap. If you transferred her to a regular carrier, they will need to reach in to remove her to sedate her.

Have you thought about what are you going to do with Big Gulp (and eventually Gray) when you get them back from the vet? They cannot be released for a few days and will need a quiet place to recover for a few days. If they do not use dissolvable stitches, then it's essential to keep her inside until you return her to remove them. If they use dissolvable, most people will re-release the cat in 3-4 days. Males are released sometimes overnight once the sedatives have worn off.

Use the humane trap and catch the boys also. Even if the females are fixed and can't reproduce, males are territorial and can spread deadly diseases through fighting. You will loose the males young if you don't get them fixed now.

Good luck in trapping and spaying!! Perhaps ask your vet for a good samaritan discount for taking care of strays. My vet used to charge me only his cost for these types of cats.
 
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I think they'll use dissolvable stitches. We've had other cats spayed at this clinice, and they've always used dissolvables. They're keeping the cat until tomorrow morning; I figured then that she would be ok to be released. I've only had indoor cats spayed, though, so - I remember bringing Maisey back into the apartment, and she was ok with being loose in the apartment. We have a small closed off room in the basement where she could be. But, we'll have to move some things out of there, or else she'll climb, right? I don't know - I just figured after a day, she'd be healed enough to be released. Do you think she'll be tame enough to stay in the basement room? I'm afraid she could get out and run all over the house. She could stay in her carrier for a bit if she had too, I guess. I don't know how we would feed her, though. We may just have to take a chance and release her. It was my dad's idea to do the spaying - I figured there would be too many risks and too much expense to have it be a good idea. I thought we should neuter the males instead, but my dad figured that other male cats would come along and chase them out to get to the female cats. I just don't see us spaying them all since it would be a tremendous cost; we checked around for discounts, but haven't found any.
 

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Your dad is correct. If you do not spay the females other males will come to breed with them. I think it is wonderful that your family is working on getting these cats fixed. Maybe you could ask close family and friends to help out with costs? Or talk with vets and see if any will offer discount on multiples?
 

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Here is a link to Aley Cat Allies Feral Friends Network to help you try to locate a TNR group in your area.

Here's another link to Spay USA where you may be able to find some help.

Those are the routes I had to take when I first got started with TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) here.

Hopefully you will find a group in your area that will help or totally take care of the expenses to Spay or Neuter and at least get a rabies shot.

What you want to do is a good thing and I hope you can get the needed assistance to get everyone taken care of.
 

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But, is there an age when cats stop having kittens? Is there a higher risk of problems with the spaying if we spay an older cat? Also, Big Gulp, who we're bringing in tomorrow, is pretty skittish. We can't pet her, though she's used to people. We trapped her this evening (in a "friendly" trap), and made an appt. for tomorrow morning. We warned the vet that this cat is stray and isn't used to being touched. She's doing well now in her makeshift cat carrier (a metal cage with blankets), but will they sedate her before she's taken out of the carrier? I'm afraid she'll go wild otherwise. Sorry for all the questions. I can't believe that the Humane Society won't do more. My parents and I aren't made of money, but we don't meet the guidelines for reduced cost spaying. So we're kind of on our own dealing with this.
Where do you live and we can try to see if there are any TNR groups to assist you. While neutering definately helps the males..you do need to address the females as well. At a recent feral cat clinic, we had 2 cats that were both lactating (carrying for newborns) AND pregnant. If you trap a female, it is best to have her spayed.

Have you talked to the Humane Society about the fact that these are not your owned cats but cats that live outdoors that you are trying to assist in getting fixed?? It's actually a win for them to get these cats fixed since outdoor kittens compete with domesticated kittens for homes.

Katie
 
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