Help Please! I am at my wits end with Jasmine!!!

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PRO BIOTICS.... and PRE biotics .... like chicory root , beet pulp , acidophilis


Not anitbiotics
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

PRO BIOTICS.... and PRE biotics .... like chicory root , beet pulp , acidophilis


Not anitbiotics
sorry jen! i must have misread your earlier question!
/ she is not on any of those. should she be?
 

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I wonder if the problem started with the UTI and is continuing because of that and because of her declaw. Declawed cats are notorious for having litter box issues later in life because of the pain associated with the surgery. Poor baby!
My other thought was bullying of the other cats, but since you say she loves the other kitties, I'm confused too! My Sparkle Boo had litterbox issues because two of my kitties were bullying her. I had to rehome her to Texas where she was in a larger home (more territory) and fewer cats. She hasn't had a problem since.
She is still on antibiotics and is probably still experiencing pain because of the UTI. Pippin had a very relentless UTI that took 4 rounds of antibiotics with 4 different varieties to knock it out. We finally did a round of Xeniquin (sp?) and he's not had any box issues since (knock on wood!!!).
It's a frustrating problem and I hope you get it figured out. I've heard amazing stories about the cat attract litter, so I hope it works for you!

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YES ... I use human but there are pet versions avail ....
 
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Originally Posted by Devlyn

I wonder if the problem started with the UTI and is continuing because of that and because of her declaw. Declawed cats are notorious for having litter box issues later in life because of the pain associated with the surgery. Poor baby!
My other thought was bullying of the other cats, but since you say she loves the other kitties, I'm confused too! My Sparkle Boo had litterbox issues because two of my kitties were bullying her. I had to rehome her to Texas where she was in a larger home (more territory) and fewer cats. She hasn't had a problem since.
She is still on antibiotics and is probably still experiencing pain because of the UTI. Pippin had a very relentless UTI that took 4 rounds of antibiotics with 4 different varieties to knock it out. We finally did a round of Xeniquin (sp?) and he's not had any box issues since (knock on wood!!!).
It's a frustrating problem and I hope you get it figured out. I've heard amazing stories about the cat attract litter, so I hope it works for you!

Devlyn
Thankyou for trying to help
/ Jasmine was declawed by her previous owners long before i adopted her. (i do not agree with declawing and under no circumstances would i ever do it.) I have had her for about 3 years now and she's NEVER had any problems with UTI issues or anything of that nature until right now. The problem that caused the UTI in the first place was that she is overweight and can not clean her bottom like she could if she were more trim. (she has lost a lot of weight (safely and slowly) since i've had her though- she was morbidly obease when i took her in and now she weighs 13lbs!
(only 2 more to go until we hit her ideal weight of 11lbs!)

The problem with obease cats is when they can not properly clean themselves- it can cause dirt/debris to get trapped into their private areas and cause an infection. This is what happened to Jasmine. Even though I clean her bum several times a day- she somehow got a UTI. (this is the first time this has happened). It's definitely not a bullying thing eithor- all of my animals get along soo well (i'm very lucky!
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Unfortunately the vet said the UTI is a direct result of her weight /not being able to clean herself well....it's just getting rid of the UTI that seems to be the issue and getting her to like the litter pan again. I'm praying the cat attract litter works!!!!


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YES ... I use human but there are pet versions avail ....
what kind would you recommend for her? /how much?
 

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Probios is avail at most feed store s ( 1-5 grams a day)... or bene bac is widely avail( directions on package
 

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Oh I hope you didn't think I was judging you! I saw that you adopted her as an obese declawed cat and thought maybe that was part of the problem is all.

I have a declawed adoptee too named Morris, and he has pain in his paws because of it. The paw pads are actually mutilated because of it. I keep a close eye on him because as he gets older, I think the pain might increase and we might end up with a litterbox issue.
It's great that you got her weight down! Some folks think it's cute to have a fat cat, but it's so harmful to them and this is just one more example of why. It makes total sense why she ended up with a UTI. When Pippin was still wearing his cone after his PU surgery and while battling a UTI, I cleaned him up with unscented baby wipes. It seemed to help a lot.

Keeping my fingers crossed that the cat attract works!!


Dev

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Thankyou for trying to help
/ Jasmine was declawed by her previous owners long before i adopted her. (i do not agree with declawing and under no circumstances would i ever do it.) I have had her for about 3 years now and she's NEVER had any problems with UTI issues or anything of that nature until right now. The problem that caused the UTI in the first place was that she is overweight and can not clean her bottom like she could if she were more trim. (she has lost a lot of weight (safely and slowly) since i've had her though- she was morbidly obease when i took her in and now she weighs 13lbs!
(only 2 more to go until we hit her ideal weight of 11lbs!)

The problem with obease cats is when they can not properly clean themselves- it can cause dirt/debris to get trapped into their private areas and cause an infection. This is what happened to Jasmine. Even though I clean her bum several times a day- she somehow got a UTI. (this is the first time this has happened). It's definitely not a bullying thing eithor- all of my animals get along soo well (i'm very lucky!
)

Unfortunately the vet said the UTI is a direct result of her weight /not being able to clean herself well....it's just getting rid of the UTI that seems to be the issue and getting her to like the litter pan again. I'm praying the cat attract litter works!!!!




what kind would you recommend for her? /how much?
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

Probios is avail at most feed store s ( 1-5 grams a day)... or bene bac is widely avail( directions on package
one of the stores near us has bene bac! i will pick some up tomorrow after i talk to the vet! thanks jennifer!


Originally Posted by Devlyn

Oh I hope you didn't think I was judging you! I saw that you adopted her as an obese declawed cat and thought maybe that was part of the problem is all.

I have a declawed adoptee too named Morris, and he has pain in his paws because of it. The paw pads are actually mutilated because of it. I keep a close eye on him because as he gets older, I think the pain might increase and we might end up with a litterbox issue.
It's great that you got her weight down! Some folks think it's cute to have a fat cat, but it's so harmful to them and this is just one more example of why. It makes total sense why she ended up with a UTI. When Pippin was still wearing his cone after his PU surgery and while battling a UTI, I cleaned him up with unscented baby wipes. It seemed to help a lot.

Keeping my fingers crossed that the cat attract works!!


Dev
oh not at all hon!
i just didn't want anyone to think i declawed her if my earlier post wasn't clear
/ I'll keep my fingers crossed your Morris doesn't develop any issues!! I think as long as the weight on declawed kitties is managed- it can help reduce chances of arthritis/etc from what my vet had mentioned. (too much weight on the mutilated paws is bad and can cause issues like you said)

Glad to find another baby wipe user
i hold Jasmine down several times a day and clean her with them while she screams at me
my poor baby!
 

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Nikki, I might've missed it & I know you were asked somewhere....have you thoroughly cleaned the "oops" spots with an enzymatic cleaner?

Has she been tried on Baytril?
I like it as far as UTIs go, it is what "works" for Ophelia. I always did 1/2 tab 2x a day for 21 days, just to be sure the UTI was gone.
 
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Originally Posted by white cat lover

Nikki, I might've missed it & I know you were asked somewhere....have you thoroughly cleaned the "oops" spots with an enzymatic cleaner?

Has she been tried on Baytril?
I like it as far as UTIs go, it is what "works" for Ophelia. I always did 1/2 tab 2x a day for 21 days, just to be sure the UTI was gone.
Hey Natalie!
The "oops" spots have been thoroughly cleaned with Natures Miracle- and just to be sure i cleaned EVERYTHING...i just cleaned the entire cat room top to bottom - walls and as much carpet as i could get to. I dumped out all litter pans- scrubbed each of them down and then i sprayed Natures Miracle in them and wipped them down again (just to get rid of any odors that might hide in the scratches on the litter pans.)

Jasmine has a brand new pan that i filled with the Cat Attract (and all the other litter pans). I put her new pan right in the middle of the bed where she had been going. I hope it works! I also sprayed "No Mark" all in the room. Geesh! I'm exhausted after all that work


Also- After the Amoxi didn't work for Jasmine, I tried her on Baytril- she had an AWEFUL reaction to it- so she can not have that anymore. Instead, she is on Cepha-drops and that seems to be helping a lot


Today I also picked up some better quality foods for them all - Wellness Dry Supermix5 (which after talking to Sharky- i found out it's no longer being made- so when we get low on that bag i'm going to put them all on the Nutro Max Adult Chicken- it's chicken flavored,no seafood and is supposed to be good for kitties prone to UTI.
/ I also picked up some canned Wellness as well (the grain free ones) I will be giving them all a varity of Wellness, Solid Gold, and California Natural soft foods in addition to the dry. So hopefully between all this stuff....SOMETHING has to work right?
 

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Nutro max adult in chn
... the other might work but youll see the numbers differ from natural choice
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

Nutro max adult in chn
... the other might work but youll see the numbers differ from natural choice
one of these days i'm going to get it right
thanks jen!
that's what i ment i think i just put the wrong thing down (seems to be a theme tonight
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I'm so sorry you are going thru this and glad you found Cat Attract!!

I have a sick cat that is going thru the same problem right now and picked up some Cat Attract additive the other day. It came with a brochure that brought up a lot of the points already discussed in this thread and I'll try to breeze thru the highlights. Sorry if you already have the brochure and read it, just posting it for others on the sight also.

1. Use Cat Attract litter
2. Buy new pans and clean litter
3. Put the box in a different area that is in a quiet area, away from bright lights, loud noises, vibrations from washing machines or furnaces and away from an area that could be disturbed by kids and dogs.
4. Destroy old smells
5. Put food where they are going
6. Put the cat's smell there (rub them with a towel then rub it on the area)
7. Use Feliway
8. Get rid of hooded boxes
9. Reduce stress: play with them for at least 15 minutes each day, put their condos in the window, play music/TV for them while away, hide treats for them to hunt.
10. Rule out medical issues

For the really tough case (sounds like your girl):
Put the litter box with Cat Attract in the problem space for 10-14 days. After this time, move the box an inch or two each day toward the place where you would like it to be. Alternatively, confine your cat for at least one month to a room that hasn't been soiled in the past. Provide a litter box along with food, water, scratching post, toys and elevated hideaway. After a month the cat should be consistently using its litter box and you can expand the territory to include 2 rooms, then 3, and so on. Over time most cats respond to this treatment. Some require a more rigorous treatment: Confine the cat to a large cage or pet carrier that is elevated off the floor on a table or bench. Cover the entire floor of the carrier with litter. Create a small bed and spot for water and food at one end. This will force your cat to use the litter. Over time, reduce the amount of litter in the carrier, so that the litter only covers a portion of the floor. Once the cat is consistently using only the litter covered area in the carrier, bring it out into the room and proceed with the one-room confinement treatment outlined previously.
 

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Okay... Let me be the devil for a minute..

Natures mircle can take a few weeks to do its job do you have reg cleaner you can use... ??? dr bronners is commonly what I use
 
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I am sooooo deliriously happy right now!!!!!!!!
Jasmine has not had a single accident since I started using that Cat Attract litter last night!!!! OMG! I'm sooo happy!!!!
 

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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR

I am sooooo deliriously happy right now!!!!!!!!
Jasmine has not had a single accident since I started using that Cat Attract litter last night!!!! OMG! I'm sooo happy!!!!
great news1
i told you- that stuff is amazing!
 

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Nikki, I just saw this thread. I'm so happy that the Cat Attract is working with Jasmine!! I swear that stuff saved Forest's life...DH was about to kill him if he didn't stop peeing on the carpet.


Also, I have a couple boxes of the By Nature food that Jen recommended that I picked up from PFD when I was looking for non-wheat-gluten alternative foods. My boys won't touch it. If you want to try that, I'd be glad to send it to you. I liked the looks of it because it's grain-free, no fish, and pretty low in fat (for my chubby boy, Tailer). PM me if you want me to send it to you. (I know how expensive the search for new foods can get.)
 
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