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The Concert for Diana - yesterday

post #1 of 28
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Did anyone watch it? It was fantastic. Elton John, Rod Stewart, Duran Duran
it was such an awesome tribute to an incredible woman.

All the artists performed free of charge and all proceeds to go to Diana's favortie charities.
post #2 of 28
There was a thread in the Lounge last night about it where we were discussing the acts as they came on.

It was a fantastic show that her sons arranged
post #3 of 28
I think it was wonderful that Elton John kept the promise he made at Diana's funeral,never to perform the Candle in the Wind song again. He must truely be a man of his word!
post #4 of 28
I really enjoyed watching the concert. And I agree...it was an awesome tribute!
post #5 of 28
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I think it was wonderful that Elton John kept the promise he made at Diana's funeral,never to perform the Candle in the Wind song again. He must truely be a man of his word!
I'm glad you posted this. I wondered why he didn't play that, I was waiting for it.
post #6 of 28
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I think it was wonderful that Elton John kept the promise he made at Diana's funeral,never to perform the Candle in the Wind song again. He must truely be a man of his word!
Sheesh I hate that song- it was played endlessly after she died and I'm pleased he has said he will never play it again. Respect to you Elton
post #7 of 28
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I love that song, it make me cry.
post #8 of 28
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I'm glad you posted this. I wondered why he didn't play that, I was waiting for it.
well it wouldnt have be appropriate for that concert, which was about celebrating Dianas life - playing a song that was sang for her at her funeral would have totally ruined the whole thing - as I say not appropriate

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Sheesh I hate that song- it was played endlessly after she died and I'm pleased he has said he will never play it again. Respect to you Elton
yep - heard enough at the time really
post #9 of 28
I've gotta say I have a nil care factor about this concert and anything else. Time to move on people. That might sound harsh but honestly, there's a lot of people have died in the last ten years who made a difference in the world. And every time Diana walked onto the screen I was overwhelmed with the smell of burning martyr. Sure, she did a lot of good stuff. So do a lot of people. I'm glad money went to charity, there should be more of it, but I'm so SICK of hearing about Diana. Let the woman rest in peace, PLEASE.

And Candle In The Wind was and still is one of my favourite songs of all time. About one of my heroes, Marilyn Monroe. How come she no longer gets any tributes?
post #10 of 28
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I've gotta say I have a nil care factor about this concert and anything else. Time to move on people. That might sound harsh but honestly, there's a lot of people have died in the last ten years who made a difference in the world. And every time Diana walked onto the screen I was overwhelmed with the smell of burning martyr. Sure, she did a lot of good stuff. So do a lot of people. I'm glad money went to charity, there should be more of it, but I'm so SICK of hearing about Diana. Let the woman rest in peace, PLEASE.

And Candle In The Wind was and still is one of my favourite songs of all time. About one of my heroes, Marilyn Monroe. How come she no longer gets any tributes?
Eek. Harsh, yes..admittedly, even to someone who doesn't normally go out for sucre sweet tributes....But this is something that presumably, her sons arranged. She was a good person. The money went to charity...etc, etc...
I can't imagine why anyone would react negatively to this.

And yes, we know that it was written for Marilyn Monroe (also one of my childhood favourites) but where is the comparison besides growing up out of the working classes to become a beautiful and public icon? Marilyn, while a beautiful tragedy, didn't contribute the amount of effort to life that Diana did. ..She died after a lifetime of childhood trauma, severe drug and alcohol abuse and mediocre acting ability. There can't be a comparison.
post #11 of 28
I watched some of it..what a lovely tribute to her
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
I've gotta say I have a nil care factor about this concert and anything else. Time to move on people. That might sound harsh but honestly, there's a lot of people have died in the last ten years who made a difference in the world. And every time Diana walked onto the screen I was overwhelmed with the smell of burning martyr. Sure, she did a lot of good stuff. So do a lot of people. I'm glad money went to charity, there should be more of it, but I'm so SICK of hearing about Diana. Let the woman rest in peace, PLEASE.

And Candle In The Wind was and still is one of my favourite songs of all time. About one of my heroes, Marilyn Monroe. How come she no longer gets any tributes?
a bit like them banging on about Elvis peronally I never got all that fuss either, but you know how the whole celebrity thing is - it generates more money for the living.
post #13 of 28
I agree with you all - and I never said Marilyn achieved the same things as Diana. But the comparison is drawn because they were both beautiful, used and exploited by the media. So yes, you can compare. I don't think Elton John made that song a tribute to Diana by accident.

But I also think that Diana was a self-interested, manipulative woman who very often used the media to push her own agenda. I know the concert was arranged by her sons and I know it was for a good cause. I still remember exactly what I was doing when I heard she died and I watched all the tributes and her funeral and cried along with everyone else. I was very young at the time and quite sheltered. As I've got older and more informed I can certainly appreciate all the work she did for charity, and how much better so many people's lives were because of her. And I respect her enormously for that.

But, I also think in her personal life she was a nasty piece of work and that she used and manipulated people just as much as she was used and manipulated herself. Yet I think that all these years after she is dead, the media still can't leave her alone and I not only find that sad but also quite despicable.

Again, I know I'm probably alone in my reasonably harsh view here, but whenever I see anything to do with Diana anymore my first and only reaction is `yawn'.
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
I agree with you all - and I never said Marilyn achieved the same things as Diana. But the comparison is drawn because they were both beautiful, used and exploited by the media. So yes, you can compare. I don't think Elton John made that song a tribute to Diana by accident.

But I also think that Diana was a self-interested, manipulative woman who very often used the media to push her own agenda. I know the concert was arranged by her sons and I know it was for a good cause. I still remember exactly what I was doing when I heard she died and I watched all the tributes and her funeral and cried along with everyone else. I was very young at the time and quite sheltered. As I've got older and more informed I can certainly appreciate all the work she did for charity, and how much better so many people's lives were because of her. And I respect her enormously for that.

But, I also think in her personal life she was a nasty piece of work and that she used and manipulated people just as much as she was used and manipulated herself. Yet I think that all these years after she is dead, the media still can't leave her alone and I not only find that sad but also quite despicable.

Again, I know I'm probably alone in my reasonably harsh view here, but whenever I see anything to do with Diana anymore my first and only reaction is `yawn'.

I do think she was used by the royal family as a brood mare, but they got paid back in full.
post #15 of 28
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I do think she was used by the royal family as a brood mare, but they got paid back in full.
too right - and I'd have done the same too - imagine being married to him and drawn into that family

what also seems to be forgotten is, Diana was followed everywhere and we saw just about everything she did, good and bad - I'd love to know about all the antics that the rest of the royal mob got up to - none of them are angels and what about Camilla how devisive is that one !
post #16 of 28
I actually feel sorry for Camilla. I think she has been made into a scapegoat by many people who just could not accept that Prince Charles was in love with her, and only her, from the start, and finally made a grab for his own happiness. Something he deserves whether he is the heir to the throne of England or not. Nobody asks to be born into royalty - and they're not born for the want of a baby, they're born for the want of an heir. They are `produced'. It is a terrible burden and one that no member of the modern royal family has shirked. Neither has Charles, and so I do believe that he deserves some happiness, too.

Now, Diana knew exactly what she was getting into - she was far from stupid. And anyone marrying into the royal family is thoroughly vetted, examined and counselled beforehand to ensure that they are appropriate. I refuse to believe that she was this little innocent who married into a family that made her life hell. She made their lives hell, too. Charles would never have been happy with Diana, because she wasn't the woman he loved. I think he tried, and I think she knew she wasn't the one and resented it and made his life miserable, quite deliberately. I think he behaved with dignity and grace at her funeral, and I think that when they finally did pay tribute, they did it beautifully. And I think that it was the only thing they could do, even though deep down I think they felt she didn't deserve it, for what she put them through.

At the time, though - and to this day, despite my personal feelings for her - I think she deserved the tribute too. She was beloved by many, and changed the lives of so many, I think that all the events surrounding her death were just right. But, now, ENOUGH. It's time to move on and let her go, and stop keeping her alive when she has been gone a long time. I'm sure all this is just what she would have wanted, and yet on the other hand, I think that she would also like to be left to rest in peace.
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
I've gotta say I have a nil care factor about this concert and anything else.


If I may borrow an apt American expression - "Enough already!"
post #18 of 28
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So, tell me again, just what exactly did Marilyn Monroe do to help humanity?
I would really like to know.

I dont think there is any comparison, because they were both pretty? The reason no can has forgotten her is not because she was pretty IMO, although that was an added benefit. She helped take away the stigma of being around people with Aids and I think that was VERY important.
Not even to mention all her charity work.

Good grief, she was just a girl when she married the Prince.
Manipulating? I save that one for Camilla.
So you criticize Diana and defend Camilla, the adlulteress?
post #19 of 28
Diana seemed more interested in Charles's position as a "prince" than in him as a man. I still believe that she viewed herself as some sort of "fairytale princess" in the early days of their relationship, and, when faced with reality (i.e., that he was pressured into marrying an "appropriate" woman and producing heirs), became very vindictive. Camilla, on the other hand, appears to love the man, and not the title. I find her very simpatico.

Diana was by no means angelic, but she did a real service to charitable organizations, no matter what her motives. I therefore don't find this tribute to her, organized by her own "flesh and blood", offensive in any way.
post #20 of 28
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I agree she was very naive. And she did go for revenge after finding out the real deal.
post #21 of 28
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So, tell me again, just what exactly did Marilyn Monroe do to help humanity?
I would really like to know.

I dont think there is any comparison, because they were both pretty? The reason no can has forgotten her is not because she was pretty IMO, although that was an added benefit. She helped take away the stigma of being around people with Aids and I think that was VERY important.
Not even to mention all her charity work.

Good grief, she was just a girl when she married the Prince.
Manipulating? I save that one for Camilla.
So you criticize Diana and defend Camilla, the adlulteress?
Um, did you even read my posts? I think you'll find all points you have raised answered therein.

And yeah, Camilla was the ONLY one who committed adultery. Diana was soooooo faithful.
post #22 of 28
I didn't much like Diana (as I explained in the other thread in the lounge) and am sick of all the talk and conspiracy theories surrounding her death, but it's now 10 years since she died and the concert was held on what would have been her birthday. Her sons wanted to hold a concert to celebrate her life and to raise money for charity. I really don't see how anyone can have a problem with that. Nobody was forced to watch it.
post #23 of 28
I've already stated I didn't have a problem with the concert or the reasons for it. But, again, the whole Diana thing is just a big yawn for me, and I felt the need to express that!

However, that's just how I feel. I didn't like her then and I don't now. Her boys, however, are a different kettle of fish and I like them both a great deal. I think they are remarkable. But Diana is one of those things, you either like her or you don't. I don't, but I know there are heaps of people out there who do and that's fine. She did do some amazing, wonderful work. I just thought she was a whingeing bore, that's all.
post #24 of 28
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Manipulating? I save that one for Camilla.
I can never understand how anyone can judge someone when they don't know them in person?.

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Camilla, on the other hand, appears to love the man, and not the title.
Now that seems so true.

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And yeah, Camilla was the ONLY one who committed adultery. Diana was soooooo faithful.
I've got my doubts there to be honest.

I still say Prince Harry looks like James Hewitt
post #25 of 28
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I still say Prince Harry looks like James Hewitt

now that would be interesting to do a DNA test on him - I say you only have to look at his hair...........Williams has got a bald patch already and Harry has a thick GINGER mop .......... ummmmm any ginger in any of those families I think not ....nuff said

shame she didnt have a baby with Dodi Al-Fayed, that would have been one gorgeous baby
post #26 of 28
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ummmmm any ginger in any of those families I think not ....nuff said
One of Dianas sisters has ginger hair, but it just seems too much of a coincidence, especially when she had a bit of a fling with Jamesy boy
post #27 of 28
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One of Dianas sisters has ginger hair, but it just seems too much of a coincidence, especially when she had a bit of a fling with Jamesy boy
oh right, I thought they were all shades of blondes - but hey can you imagine the fallout if a DNA was ever done - well that would be another massive coverup
post #28 of 28
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but hey can you imagine the fallout if a DNA was ever done - well that would be another massive coverup
Pfftttt would it!.
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