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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
This was on Itchmo.com yesterday:

http://www.newstarget.com/Report_pet...edients_0.html

There are a few that I disagree with such as beet pulp and corn gluten meal. What does everyone think?
post #2 of 16
Very excellent!!

Thank you so much for posting that! I have been wanting something just like that!

Medora
post #3 of 16
Interesting...thanks.

I've just scanned it so far, and yes - there are some concepts there that I don't agree with.
post #4 of 16
Oh, you guys are such teases!

Don't leave me in suspense, what don't you agree with?
post #5 of 16
I just briefly scanned the list, and there's a number of things I don't particularly agree with. Which makes me suspicious of the entire list.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by mschauer View Post
Oh, you guys are such teases!

Don't leave me in suspense, what don't you agree with?
I've only skimmed it so please forgive me if I didn't get some of my facts straight. It's entirely possible.

I really am turning into a grain-hater and there are too many in the 5 star list IMO. I haven't read it closely. But I don't see why stuff like rabbit and venison deserve to be lower on the list than barley and corn...and ummm garlic oil? Yeah, I guess maybe rabbit is lower in taurine than some other meats but at least it is MEAT.

And yes, brewer's rice is cr*p and it's a "waste" product...complete garbage...it deserves the one star it got. But (you know I love the stuff) brewer's yeast is NOT a waste product...and the info about it is bull-oh-neee.

I'm a little disturbed that the person who wrote the little descriptions works for a company that puts soy, wheat, AND corn in their cat food...all in ONE cat food no less.
post #7 of 16
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I'm a little disturbed that the person who wrote the little descriptions works for a company that puts soy, wheat, AND corn in their cat food...all in ONE cat food no less.
You mean Dr. Newman with Azmira? If so, yeah there does seem to be a conflict of interest problem there.
post #8 of 16
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You mean Dr. Newman with Azmira? If so, yeah there does seem to be a conflict of interest problem there.
Exactly
post #9 of 16
I was not impressed with the list either. Grains get 5 stars?? Garlic to?? Garlic is a big no no for cats. A list I will not refer to.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Someone on another forum said all of the highly rated ingredients were in Azmira. I haven't found a holistic cat food I like yet because they all have too many grains in them.
post #11 of 16
Yeah, some of it seems a bit biased. But I will say that it will prompt me to read a bit more (elsewhere, beyond their list) about some ingredients that I hadn't given much thought to. So there's a positive.
post #12 of 16
INTERSTING... but anyone with any basic knowledge wouldnt listen to much of that ...

WHOLE grains arent what cat should have , I am learning about grain s and cats from the chinese medicine standpt at the moment ... I am not a grain hater but most cats are....

GRAINS( whole ) and GARLIC getting 5 stars NOT from me or anyone I know with any nutritional backgrd...My vet okay a SMALL amount of garlic for Kandie( ) so I could get her to eat ..

I Personally note MANY of the 5 stars are the LEAST digestable to the cat
post #13 of 16
QUick anaylisis
RIGHT OFF Dead WRONG..
carrots (5 stars) found in 12% of pet food products analyzed
Natural source of beta carotene (precursor to Vitamin A needed for immune function), excellent fiber.http://www.newstarget.com/Report_pet...edients_2.html
CATs dont convert beta carotene and need already formed vitamins A

I think that is enough not to listen to this list
Next is barley is a crappy form IMHO... cracked barley ( aka pearled barley) is NOT very digestable and is a HIGH allergen ( ie it is the same gluten as wheat )

I could literally go down the list ... UMMM stock is stock NOT a nutritious item rather a tasty item .. and WHY on earth would you want it in dry food??? It s High salt level would be a disaster to a dry ... wet food for flavor NO issue
Rosemary can cause stomach irritation and Citric acid is OFTEN a CHEMICALLY derived preservative

Canola oil is a WEED ask the Canadians about Rapeseed... Not my fav of oils thou better than some

Menhanden fish and the oil ... the oil I will say okay as oil is well oil and very few make me happy .. but this as a meal or a meat is the ONLY fish NOT fit for human consumption

Do you need more analysised???
post #14 of 16
Now that I've looked at the list with a more critical eye I'm not so excited. After a little research some of the information just doesn't seem credible. Given that, I don't think any of it can be trusted.

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Originally Posted by beandip View Post
And yes, brewer's rice is cr*p and it's a "waste" product...complete garbage...it deserves the one star it got. But (you know I love the stuff) brewer's yeast is NOT a waste product...and the info about it is bull-oh-neee.
I've haven't been able to find anything supporting their contention that brewers yeast plays a part in liver toxicity, arthritis or allergies. Everything I've read only says wonderful things about it.

Sigh, I'm *soo* disappointed.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by mschauer View Post
Now that I've looked at the list with a more critical eye I'm not so excited. After a little research some of the information just doesn't seem credible. Given that, I don't think any of it can be trusted.



I've haven't been able to find anything supporting their contention that brewers yeast plays a part in liver toxicity, arthritis or allergies. Everything I've read only says wonderful things about it.

Sigh, I'm *soo* disappointed.
Yes SOME animals are Yeast sensitive ... but brewers is one with of the lower issues unless paired with barley wheat or rye which are heavy gluten and starch grains
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
I knew Sharky would rip those 5 star ingredients up!
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