Blue Spa Holistic vs. Natural Choice

Hi, My cat has been on Nutro natural choice for awhile. I noticed in Petco a food called Blue Spa Select. I wanted to see if anyone here uses it and what you think of it. I was thinking of trying the hairball formula:

Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Fish Meal, Oatmeal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barley, Dried Cellulose, Whole Potatoes, Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Chicory Root, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Whole Carrots, Cranberries, Blueberries, Flaxseed, Barley Grass, Dried Parsley, Alfalfa Meal, Kelp Meal, Taurine, L-Lysine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Green Tea Extract, Turmeric, Salmon Oil (natural source of Omega 3 Fatty Acids), Black Malted Barley, Oil of Rosemary, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin C, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Beta-Carotene, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Biotin, Chlorine Chloride, Calcium Chloride, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Potassium Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Potassium), Cobalt Proteinate (source of Chelated Cobalt), Potassium Chloride, Sodium Selenite, Salt, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bacillus subtilis, Bifidobacterium thermophilum, Bifidobacterium longum, Enterococcus faecium.

Crude Protein 34.0% min
Crude Fat 16.0% min
Crude Fiber 8.5% max
Moisture 10.0% max
Ash 7.0% max
Magnesium 0.10% max
Taurine 0.15% min
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* 0.3% min
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* 3.0% min
L-Carnitine* 100mg/kg min

Please let me know what you think???
Thanks, Ruth

Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Fish Mealwho>>??, Oatmeal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barleythree grains right in a row, Dried Cellulosefiber source that when not identified could be sawdust , Whole Potatoesanother grain like, Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Chicory Root, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Whole Carrots, Cranberries, Blueberries, Flaxseed,grain like, Barley Grass, Dried Parsleywhy so many fibers ???, Alfalfa Mealmany formulas dropped this as it can cause tummy trouble, Kelp Meal, Taurine, L-Lysine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Green Tea Extract, Turmericgreat on as needed basisi but ??? the reg use without a DR stateing its needed, Salmon Oil (natural source of Omega 3 Fatty Acids), Black Malted Barleythat is = to the sugar of the barley, Oil of Rosemary, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin C, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Beta-Carotene, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Biotin, Chlorine Chloride, Calcium Chloride, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Potassium Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Potassium), Cobalt Proteinate (source of Chelated Cobalt), Potassium Chloride, Sodium Selenite, Salt, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bacillus subtilis, Bifidobacterium thermophilum, Bifidobacterium longum, Enterococcus faecium.

Crude Protein 34.0% min
Crude Fat 16.0% min
Crude Fiber 8.5% max HIGH HIGH fiber ... most hairball is still under 6
Moisture 10.0% max
Ash 7.0% max
Magnesium 0.10% max NOT UTI friendly
Taurine 0.15% min
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* 0.3% min
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* 3.0% min lower by .1-.3 and 1% recspectively than Nutro ... ie less skin and coat care
L-Carnitine* 100mg/kg min ...this is great for wt mgmt if needed look at NC indoor

VERY grain or grain like heavy ... some ingrediants I dont touch ever .... It is a good food but I would pass

PM if your having issues with NC and I will attempt to help

Our kitties did really well on the Spa Select, actually. They were on Natural Choice Indoor before that, and after the change, their coats improved. I couldn't tell you why, after reading sharky's comments on it, though. Now I'm not sure whether to use that coupon I just got for another bag of it or not... Chase is eating Solid Gold, but my sister's cat very much prefers the Spa Select, so I've been keeping both out.

I fed Blue Spa Senior dry for a while. The cats weren't too excited about it. They like Nutro Natural better.

Originally Posted by sharky

Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Fish Mealwho>>??, Oatmeal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barleythree grains right in a row, Dried Cellulosefiber source that when not identified could be sawdust , Whole Potatoesanother grain like, Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Chicory Root, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Whole Carrots, Cranberries, Blueberries, Flaxseed,grain like, Barley Grass, Dried Parsleywhy so many fibers ???, Alfalfa Mealmany formulas dropped this as it can cause tummy trouble, Kelp Meal, Taurine, L-Lysine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Green Tea Extract, Turmericgreat on as needed basisi but ??? the reg use without a DR stateing its needed, Salmon Oil (natural source of Omega 3 Fatty Acids), Black Malted Barleythat is = to the sugar of the barley, Oil of Rosemary, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin C, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Beta-Carotene, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Biotin, Chlorine Chloride, Calcium Chloride, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Potassium Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Potassium), Cobalt Proteinate (source of Chelated Cobalt), Potassium Chloride, Sodium Selenite, Salt, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bacillus subtilis, Bifidobacterium thermophilum, Bifidobacterium longum, Enterococcus faecium.

Crude Protein 34.0% min
Crude Fat 16.0% min
Crude Fiber 8.5% max HIGH HIGH fiber ... most hairball is still under 6
Moisture 10.0% max
Ash 7.0% max
Magnesium 0.10% max NOT UTI friendly
Taurine 0.15% min
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* 0.3% min
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* 3.0% min lower by .1-.3 and 1% recspectively than Nutro ... ie less skin and coat care
L-Carnitine* 100mg/kg min ...this is great for wt mgmt if needed look at NC indoor

VERY grain or grain like heavy ... some ingrediants I dont touch ever .... It is a good food but I would pass

PM if your having issues with NC and I will attempt to help

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Sharkey,
I looked at a couple of the ingredients, just thought it looked good. I forgot to post the Natural Choice ingredients, that I was using. Also does it have Omega 3 or Omega 6. Not listed. My cat has been on the Natural Choice for awhile, does have hair-balls, she is part Maine-coone. Thanks for your input:
Ingredients: For Natural Choice Adult
Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Rice Flour, Natural Flavors, Rice Protein Concentrate, Herring Meal, Soybean Oil, Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Vegetable Fiber (Carrots, Celery, Beets, Parsley, Lettuce, Water Cress, Spinach), Oat Fiber, Yeast Culture, Potassium Chloride, Menhaden Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Choline Chloride, Dried Egg Product, Taurine, DL-Methionine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Inositol, Dried Bacillus licheniformis Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Extract, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Dried Chicory Root, Cranberry Powder, Niacin, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Calcium Iodate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid.
Nutro supports the safe, ethical and humane treatment of all animals.


Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (minimum) 33.00%
Crude Fat (minimum) 19.00%
Crude Fiber (maximum) 4.00%
Moisture (maximum) 10.00%
Ash (maximum) 6.75%
Linoleic Acid (minimum) 4.00%
Arachidonic Acid (ARA) (minimum) 0.05%
Magnesium (maximum) 0.088%
Iron (minimum) 200 mg/kg
Manganese (minimum) 35 mg/kg
Zinc (minimum) 250 mg/kg
Vitamin D (minimum) 1,200 IU/kg
Vitamin E (minimum) 250 IU/kg
Taurine (minimum) 0.18%
Ascorbic Acid (minimum)** 50 mg/kg
Beta-Carotene (minimum)** 3.2 mg/kg
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) (minimum)** 0.06%
Total Bacillus Species (minimum)**
(Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus subtilis) 565 Million CFU‡/lb

Ingredients: For Natural Choice Adult
Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Corn Gluten Mealto balence the chn for UTI health , Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Rice Flourtwo types but it is only one grain, Natural Flavors, Rice Protein ConcentrateThis is a AMERICAN product thou now I am unsure , Herring Mealnamed meal , Soybean Oilnot a fav but it helps the omega 3 levals , Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E)Omega 6 here, Dried Vegetable Fiber (Carrots, Celery, Beets, Parsley, Lettuce, Water Cress, Spinach), Oat Fiberfibers note just two together, Yeast Culture, Potassium Chloride, Menhaden Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Choline Chloride, Dried Egg Product, Taurine, DL-Methionine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Inositol, Dried Bacillus licheniformis Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Extract, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Dried Chicory Root, Cranberry Powderconcerntrated source not likely cooked away, Niacin, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Calcium Iodate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid.
Nutro supports the safe, ethical and humane treatment of all animals.


Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (minimum) 33.00%
Crude Fat (minimum) 19.00%
Crude Fiber (maximum) 4.00% just to note
Moisture (maximum) 10.00%
Ash (maximum) 6.75%
Linoleic Acid (minimum) 4.00% I am omega 6
Arachidonic Acid (ARA) (minimum) 0.05% omega 3
Magnesium (maximum) 0.088%
Iron (minimum) 200 mg/kg
Manganese (minimum) 35 mg/kg
Zinc (minimum) 250 mg/kg
Vitamin D (minimum) 1,200 IU/kg
Vitamin E (minimum) 250 IU/kg
Taurine (minimum) 0.18%
Ascorbic Acid (minimum)** 50 mg/kg
Beta-Carotene (minimum)** 3.2 mg/kg
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) (minimum)** 0.06% another omega 3
Total Bacillus Species (minimum)**
(Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus subtilis) 565 Million CFU‡/lb[COLOR]gareenteed leval of probiotics ... I didnt note the pre biotics in the food


If you still have hairballs on this .... you may want to try the Max hairball ... it is a three meat with rice and oatmeal ( the later helps with fur balls) ... or are you giving canned food ??

Sharky said a helluva lot, but all I have to say is that one has fish meal in it and the other has Menadione. That would make me shy away from the start.

Originally Posted by noludoru

Sharky said a helluva lot, but all I have to say is that one has fish meal in it and the other has Menadione. That would make me shy away from the start.

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What is Menadione? I never heard that before. Is it really bad?
Thanks

Originally Posted by sbd45

What is Menadione? I never heard that before. Is it really bad?
Thanks

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It is one of those 60000$ ???s

it is a synthetic viatimin K WHICH MOST foods have ... Many arent truthful on the label as to what type they use ... I dont like it at the top of the vitamins but if it is last or in the last five ingrediants I am a okay with it as I did talk to the vet and she thinks that the issue is not really a issue

Originally Posted by sharky

It is one of those 60000$ ???s

it is a synthetic viatimin K WHICH MOST foods have ... Many arent truthful on the label as to what type they use

... I dont like it at the top of the vitamins but if it is last or in the last five ingrediants I am a okay with it as I did talk to the vet and she thinks that the issue is not really a issue

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Thanks for the information. I am thinking of just keeping her on the Natural Choice anyway. She doesn't get that many hair-balls and it is basically good food. I do give her wet also. She has been on Fancy Feast lately, she doesn't seem to like Natural Balance, and would not eat it. Thanks again