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post #1 of 16
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http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/f...4068db11f4&p=4



If this guy knows what he is talking about and it sounds like he does, I think this entire Global Warming subject needs to be revisited. I am rapidly changing my mind on if Global Warming even exists.
post #2 of 16
I'm starting to believe that no one knows what in the heck is actually going on, they just come up with elaborate theories to back whatever stance they want.
post #3 of 16
Excellent link!

I think there is still too much to learn for all the hoobah about it. We didn't heat it up in 25 years, we ain't gonna fix it in 25.

And I agree - if this guy is right, we better get ready to bundle up.
post #4 of 16
Sigh. Yes, it's getting colder in some parts of the world. Therefore global warming doesn't exist. Actually, peeps, it's called climate change. Climate CHANGE. Which has been brought about by global warming.

And if you guys think this article negates climate CHANGE it doesn't. It is warning about `dangerous' global cooling. Just as dangerous, just as much something to be concerned about and to do something about.

Of course we're finding out new things, which I applaud. I will also applaud anything that means that we are in less dire straits. But that does NOT mean I will sit back, rest on my laurels and go `oh, ok. It's got nothing to do with us after all. Therefore I'll happily continue on my selfish, polluting, dirty way without all those liberal freaks getting on my back about it'. Yeah right.

People blab about nobody taking responsibility anymore - and yet it's funny how those people blab the loudest about climate change having nothing to do with THEM.
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
I'm starting to believe that no one knows what in the heck is actually going on, they just come up with elaborate theories to back whatever stance they want.

lol yep i agree with that.

There was a book seveal years ago, i think the it was called, Not by fire but by ice. where the guy says all of this is just setting up the next ice age.

That ice ages dont come on slow like we thought, but are very fast. he ponited to several things that seemed to of course agree with him. they had him on the radio the other day, cause so far, the pattern of global warming as followed his book, or so they said.

lol any way who cares, the world comes to a end in 2060 or so newton says now.
post #6 of 16
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And if you guys think this article negates climate CHANGE it doesn't. It is warning about `dangerous' global cooling. Just as dangerous, just as much something to be concerned about and to do something about.

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ERR, i am confused now, should i be scared of global warming, global cooling, or the liberals trying to steal my money
post #7 of 16
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ERR, i am confused now, should i be scared of global warming, global cooling, or the liberals trying to steal my money
Actually, we're trying to steal your money to burn it on the ice caps and flood California so we can rebuild it from the ground up as a liberal haven where armpit shaving is illegal.

Didn't you know?
post #8 of 16
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lol yep i agree with that.

There was a book seveal years ago, i think the it was called, Not by fire but by ice. where the guy says all of this is just setting up the next ice age.

That ice ages dont come on slow like we thought, but are very fast. he ponited to several things that seemed to of course agree with him. they had him on the radio the other day, cause so far, the pattern of global warming as followed his book, or so they said.

lol any way who cares, the world comes to a end in 2060 or so newton says now.
Hey, it's 2021 according to the Mayans, and a bunch of other prophesies. Of course, there are also those who say that our calendar is off, and we're actually already at 2012 or so...

Might as well listen to the Mayans. They are better at their predictions than most of our modern "experts".
post #9 of 16
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ERR, i am confused now, should i be scared of global warming, global cooling, or the liberals trying to steal my money
I wouldn't worry about the Liberals trying to steal your money.

Again, does anyone listen? It's CLIMATE CHANGE that all of this comes down to. Climate CHANGE. Abnormal cooling, abnormal warming. Global warming is just a part of CLIMATE CHANGE.

Now, it's not WEATHER change. It's CLIMATE change. They are two different things.

And I'm sorry, if nobody is particularly worried about an ice age coming on then goody for you. You can go freeze to death with all the other ignoramuses. I for one am going to keep on trying to do my best and encourage others to do their best to fix up this poor polluted planet of ours, and who knows? If enough people do it then CLIMATE CHANGE may not be so drastic.
post #10 of 16
lol look i am all with clean up the earth. or with talking about climate change.
i would like to new and stonger rules put in place, But most countries are not going to follow them. but until someone and turn the suns output down, its not going to do much good.

the earth has had several major climates(some very fast) changes,along with pole shifts(which we are well past due for) in is history well before we came along. Sure we can try and limit humans impact, But there is nothign we can do about the rest, accept to do what we do best, change to meet the needs.
post #11 of 16
Sarah, you're preaching to the choir here. We've all agreed that we ALL need to do our part individually and nationally to clean up with earth and stop polluting it. We've all agreed with that notion from the beginning of all of these discussion. Doesn't matter whether it's warming or cooling or if it's 10% man's fault or 95% man's fault.

Just because some of us scoff at the alarmists out there (not you - you're passionate, but not alarmist), and the fact that some scientists say it's warming and some say it's cooling, doesn't mean that we aren't (trying to be) good stewards to Mother Earth.
post #12 of 16
Thanks Heidi. I do get a bit riled up about this whole issue - I'm so sick of people trying to deny there's anything happening. Again, if you lived in Australia you'd be SO convinced - what's happening here is dreadful.

The earth has had a protective atmospheric layer for eons to protect us against the sun. It's one of the sole reasons earth as a planet is habitable to humans. The sun isn't changing - our atmospheric protective layer is changing. So to attribute climate change to the sun is absurd. Yeah, sure, the sun is damaging, but only because we're systematically destroying our atmosphere.
post #13 of 16
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Climate change is not abnormal it is normal.

Evidently the scientists in the article, who ARE experts on the subject, think that the Sun is the cause of climate change. It is a great article and a real eye opener.

I still believe we all need to be better stewars of our planet for sure.

Nothing that is happening now is anything that hasn't happened before.
post #14 of 16
Blah blah blah yes, yes it's all happened before. Nobody's denying that. I certainly am not. But I'm certainly questioning the speed and timing and all the remarkable `coincidences' that have been human-caused. But sure, let's pass the buck. It's much more convenient that way.
post #15 of 16
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I really feel that the horrible pollution and emissions is what is causing all the cancer in the world.

Now that China has passed us up for the #1 polluter of the World, it will be very interesting to see how their cancer rates climb in the coming years.

I fully believe the govt knows what causes cancer and so do all the researchers that take billions upon billions of dollars from us. That is where the big conspiracy is IMO. I won't give a dang nickel to cancer research ever, and I have had cancer.
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Thanks Heidi. I do get a bit riled up about this whole issue - I'm so sick of people trying to deny there's anything happening. Again, if you lived in Australia you'd be SO convinced - what's happening here is dreadful.

The earth has had a protective atmospheric layer for eons to protect us against the sun. It's one of the sole reasons earth as a planet is habitable to humans. The sun isn't changing - our atmospheric protective layer is changing. So to attribute climate change to the sun is absurd. Yeah, sure, the sun is damaging, but only because we're systematically destroying our atmosphere.
no i dont think anyone is denying it.
but yes the sun is changing, i have seen countless shows where they would tell you that yes it has changed. it does that from time to time, there was mini ice age in i think it wsa during the 1600 that killed alot of people,

where do you think your climate comes from? it comes from the SUN,
how to you explain that fact that earth used to be alot warmer then it was now? how to you explain seveal ice ages?

we all agree that we may have made the effects worse, and that we need to fix those.
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