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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I know that "Heads are gonna roll" is a worn out, tired cliche'. And that now days, all it means is "we're going to write a letter telling how bad you've been and put it in your file"

But in this case, heads should really roll. There are more than a few school officials and administrators that should be walked into the parking lot and beaten with large sticks...maybe a brick or two.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3296170&page=1
post #2 of 19
I can't believe that.. I would be livid if my child attended that school...They endangered the safety of everyone and made this poor girl's parents suffer tremendously!

Thankfully, they caught the guy (alleged guy).
post #3 of 19
The article does point out something that I highly agree with about how the school dealt with this tragedy on top of how VA Tech dealt with their massacre. I know that Eastern has been trying to re establish their image because of their location and things that have happened there in the past, so they're hesitent about letting out any bad news.

Still I think EMU will be moving onto a whole new board soon...probably before the start of the fall semester.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quite probably so, but in all actuality, nothing will come of it. It will be handled exactly the same way the catholic church handled their scandal. Everyone that has any culpability won't be fired...they will be relocated. They will be allowed to "retire" or "resign". Then, they will be given glowing recommendations and referrals, and within 4 months they will have high paying jobs overseeing the safety, well being and education of children and students somewhere else.
post #5 of 19
They should be found criminally responsible. Without warning the other students - there was a chance that someone else could have been raped and murdered. They should be charged with at least negligence!
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by adymarie View Post
They should be found criminally responsible. Without warning the other students - there was a chance that someone else could have been raped and murdered. They should be charged with at least negligence!
I agree, they were extremely negligent. When I was a teaching assistant, I came into work very early one morning to find another TA unconscious in her office - she'd been raped and beaten. The university informed everybody of the crime, hired more security (you could even get an escort to and from your car when it was dark), changed the locks on our building, and even permitted me to bring one of my dogs (we had three very large ones at the time) every day to patrol the hallway and offices in our department.

The university is responsible for students' safety, and not warning the student body and faculty that there is a homicidal rapist on or near the campus is outrageous. The fact that the victim's family was left in the dark is just inconceivable to me.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
The university is responsible for students' safety, and not warning the student body and faculty that there is a homicidal rapist on or near the campus is outrageous. The fact that the victim's family was left in the dark is just inconceivable to me.
Especially for 10 weeks.
post #8 of 19
I think there is more to this story than we are hearing.

She was dead 4 days when she was found.

Someone had to have been notified to come and collect the dead body and take it away.

When a dead body is found the police are involved, and so is the medical examiner. When the person is young like this girl was, an autopsy is automatically done....by law.

The police would notify the girl's family. That's protocol.

What I want to know is how a University managed to "cover" this up for a period of 10 weeks so that even the parent's didn't know. They actually have nothing to do with the investigation of a death or the determination of cause of death ..that's the job of the police and the medical examiner.

The article quotes:

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"For 10 weeks we wondered how a healthy 22-year-old girl had died. Now we know that it wasn't just a flukey odd accident. Something had definitely happened and they lied about it," Bob told ABCNEWS.com.
Bob being the girl's father.

Is he that stupid to not have contacted the police or the medical examiner in Michigan to ask? Why didn't the police or medical examiner contact him? She was the next of kin, not the university.

IMHO the only way they would have been able to cover this up for so long is if someone took the girl's body home and stuck her in the fridge.

There is more to this that hasn't been told.
post #9 of 19
I agree that there seems like there must be more to this story. I can't see how the parents didn't know how she was killed. The police would have been involved..
post #10 of 19
Here's a link to one of the original articles of the case. Her body was found Dec 15/16 and the autopsy was conducted on the 19th.

http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/print.s...int217128.html
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http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/10559511/detail.html

This is an article about her test results finally arriving to the m.e. The murderer was arrested back in February.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story...95696&gsa=true
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by AlleyGirl View Post
I agree that there seems like there must be more to this story. I can't see how the parents didn't know how she was killed. The police would have been involved..
Yes, but the police and Medical Examiner's Office don't always give out information to the family until they're "sure" of the "cause of death". I'm speaking from experience, because my older brother suddenly died "under suspicious circumstances" at the age of 37. The police, quite rightly, investigated his death first as a homicide, then as a suicide, pursued the "accidental death" path, before coming to the conclusion, months later, that he'd died of "natural causes" (asthma attack). The ME's office also investigated all avenues before concluding that my brother's new neighbor's three Persian cats' hair/dander circulating in the building's forced-air heating system was responsible for a fatal asthma attack.

Unlike this case, we were kept up to date on the entire investigation.
post #12 of 19
If that had been my daughter, they woulda been telling me something, because I woulda been camping on somebodys steps.
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by AlleyGirl View Post
I agree that there seems like there must be more to this story. I can't see how the parents didn't know how she was killed. The police would have been involved..
Campus police perhaps? There was a similar case at WKU a couple of years ago, that was completely handled by the University police. Even though they found the 2 guys that did it, one of them basically got off scot free because of the inexperience and bungling by WKU's police. It's very possible that the local public police agencies never heard a word of it....
post #14 of 19
It isn't uncommon to not let the family have autopsy results right away, and getting full results can take several weeks. I can easily see how this can happen. That being said this is horrible and inexcusable. I can't imagine keeping the parents in the dark like this. I don't know if they had the excuse of not releasing info because it would compromise the investigation- but that just seems nuts. It is amazing how rapes are covered up though. A woman was raped in a residence hall at my alma mater and not only did the university try to cover it up, our hall director tried to force her to stay in the very same dorm room- refusing to move her. Institutions can be horribly cruel and immoral- whether a church or school. Covering things up helps keep up the imagine that everything is great- it helps the bottom line.
post #15 of 19
nothing new, i can remember news shows for 20 years about schools covering up there crime rates to make there campus looks safe. As alsways yes the school should get in trouble for hiding it.
post #16 of 19
All I can say is, always always always report any crime to the city police and not the university police. Dateline did a special about how a woman was raped on campus here (she transferred to Kent State while I was there too) and basically the person was tried by judicial affairs and not a real court.

Campuses all over are way too worried about their image and way not worried enough about actually keeping students safe.

Everyone who knew about this girl's murder should be in prison.
post #17 of 19
Oh dear That poor girl. Her poor family.
post #18 of 19
Found it mods!!!

FYI Everyone, justice to Laura Dickinson has been served.
EMU President fired
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by lunasmom View Post
Found it mods!!!

FYI Everyone, justice to Laura Dickinson has been served.
EMU President fired
I just saw this this morning and I am so glad that this situation was taken seriously, and that heads did roll.
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