Originally Posted by emrldsky
Jumping in here to maybe offer clarification from a Christian standpoint (I struggle every day with my thoughts on it vs. the Bible, so please don't take this as MY opinion)...
Many Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin, and because all children of God are sinners, we can love and respect those who are homosexual, as we would any child of God. However, because it (homosexuality) IS a sin, many Christians cannot embrace the SIN, and therefore do not believe it is right for them to join in holy
matrimony.1) Being gay is the sort of sin that is listed in the extremely rigid rules of which nearly none are followed. It isn't a commandment. Fine, Christians may decide to follow whichever of those (or all of them) that they please. But, this argument is soooooo selective. In the same breath, the author of the passage declaring homosexuality a sin also says that women on their period aren't allowed to touch anything and must go burn a dove when it's done, and that men aren't allowed to masturbate. Nobody takes those other outdated 'sins' very seriously either.
To go further, this does not mean that one must be pure in order to marry in God's eyes. It simply means that to offer marriage to those who are homosexual would be accepting the sin, not just two sinners coming together.
And I have no idea of I'm explaining this viewpoint correctly.
I'm familiar with the Christian idea of being gay. But gay men and women aren't asking for Christian approval. They aren't even asking to get married anywhere but in a courthouse (if they were I can name 5 or 6 churches in Columbus alone that would be quite happy to marry them).
This is about marriage in the secular sense-- otherwise what is it doing in courthouses and laws and sometimes constitutions of state? Other people's churches will always judge something any of us do. Gay people are well aware of a certain brand of fundamentalists' absolute hatred of them, they are told of it on a regular basis, and frankly, they don't give two poops what those people think.
Not allowing gay people to get married is absurd. The point is, they are basically being denied the rights the rest of us take for granted: to visit our spouse in the hospital, to get your spouse's insurance, to be recognized as valid human beings.
People keep confusing Christian morality with well, law. Which is anti-american (ha, yes I said it-- assuming that your religious beliefs should govern other people's lives is exactly what this country is supposed to prevent.)