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breeding my cat

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
hello i was wondering how many litter you should let you cat have she just had her first
post #2 of 25
None is my answer. It is healthier to have a female spayed.
post #3 of 25
I agree. It's a myth that a female cat should have any litter before being spayed. If she's not a show breed and your only intend on having her as a pet then get her spayed ASAP.
post #4 of 25
Hi and welcome
Here is a link to the Humane Society that explores the myths behind spaying and neutering.
http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/my...neutering.html

Please do post photos when you can
post #5 of 25
She doesn't need to have any litters unless she's a pedigree show cat. Some people think that ANY pedigree cat should be bred at least once - but IMO only the BEST of the breeds should be in a breeding program.

If she's a mixed breed, then NO litters are necessary.

Why do you feel you want to breed your female?
post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 
hiya i thought it would be nice to have kittens as i love cats and had been told that female cats are nice when they had a littler
post #7 of 25
Having a litter or more does nothing but risk your cats life, honestly. I volunteer at the local Huamen Society & encourage you to do so as well. Then you can see just how many mixed breed cats are in need of homes.
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by anna2008 View Post
hiya i thought it would be nice to have kittens as i love cats and had been told that female cats are nice when they had a littler
What are your plans for the litter she has now? I'd be worried about finding good loving homes for kittens.

The idea that a litter improved their temperament is also a myth. Did you read the link Bonnie gave you? It really is very informative.
post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 
yes i got loving home for all 4 of them. i was planning to breed her as the farther is one of my other cats thinking about getting a run mad for them
post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by anna2008 View Post
yes i got loving home for all 4 of them. i was planning to breed her as the farther is one of my other cats thinking about getting a run mad for them
Instead of mating the cats you have why not consider fixing then and rescuing some of the many unwanted cats/kittens from a local shelter?
post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 
4 out 6 my cats are from there
post #12 of 25
How many of the 6 are intact? Also, do you want more cats? I guess I don't understand why your wanting more kittens unless you want to keep them.
post #13 of 25
you should have all of your animals spayed and neutered and quit adding to the problem. The reason we need humane societies and shelters is because there are too many pets and not enough homes. If you keep letting your cats multiply, you are only adding to the problem. You need to be responsible.
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
ok wht ever u are not from there uk or round the area i live in there is no priblems round my was and cats are very hard to come buy

like i said in other thread if this is the was u treat new member then u will not get many. ive never been on a forum where i have been made to feel so unwanted

i wont bother coming back again will try find forum where people r welcome
post #15 of 25
hi there i used to live where you live and when i first got my first cat it was a nightmare to find any kittens there so i do agree with wot you say but any animal shelters around here have a no kill policy so no cats will be put to sleep and they will also help to spay if you need any help there is also someone who lives across the road who has 7 cats and most of them have 2 or 3 litters a year even though she have vochers at a vet to help her to spay them and some how she finds homes for them.
post #16 of 25
anna,
I don't think anyone is trying to upset you or chase you off... it's just the some people here are very fanatic about cats and knowing that in most places there are already plenty of unwanted cats we prefer to see people adopt instead of breeding moggies. Also, you;r original question was about how many litters your cat "should" have and like many have said the safest and healthiest number of litters for a pet cat is zero.
post #17 of 25
i live in the uk , and i am a foster for a small rescue center , and they do get over run to the point they have to sometimes say no to taking more in.
we dont have as much of a problem as a lot of places , but it is still a problem.
look at it this way, your cat had 4 kittens , say 2 are girls , they go to new homes have a litter of 4 each . again to are girls in each litter so now there are 6 girls, the first 2 have another litter each of 4 kittens , so 4 more girls , then the kittens from the first litters have litters of 4 each so now we have 18 females all who are breeding again and again, altogether thats 36 cats in a year just starting from 1 female and the local tom. and thats without the first mum haveing any more. ect..
this is why we are aginst none spaying of animals.
no one was trying to upset you and were sorry if that is how you feel, we just feel so strongly about this subject that sometimes the wording doesnt go right.
we do hope to see more posts from yourself , and lots of updates on your mum and her kittens. and also lots of pictures.
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by anna2008 View Post
ok wht ever u are not from there uk or round the area i live in there is no priblems round my was and cats are very hard to come buy

like i said in other thread if this is the was u treat new member then u will not get many. ive never been on a forum where i have been made to feel so unwanted

i wont bother coming back again will try find forum where people r welcome
1) no one said anything at all even close to being mean or rude to you. You asked questions and we answered the best way we know how. There is no reason to breed mixed kitties, I even have mixed opinions on purebred cat because a lot of people don't do it responsibly and they don't test their cats and show them and everything.

2) if you think there is no cat problem in your town, you are sadly mistaken. It is a problem EVERYWHERE. Cats are running loose all over the place. Shelters may be short on kittens the couple times you went there, maybe it wasn't kitten season, that doesn't mean there is no overpopulation problem of cats in general. Just call your local shelters. They will tell you. And then tell them the reason is because you want to let your cats breed. See what they say. You will see we are not making this stuff up.

It just saddens me when so many people including myself work so hard to get cats altered because the population is so incredibly bad. To get unwanted cats off the streets and keep them from being killed in the pound. Then we hear of people intentionally letting there cats breed for no good reason. It is so sad So sad that more cats have to suffer. More homes are being taken up by mixed breed cats intentionally bred and less homes available for the already millions and millions of homeless ones.
post #19 of 25
Well said ladies!

Anna,
no one is trying to ber rude or chase you off... we are all here for the same reason... to do what's best for our feline freinds!
post #20 of 25
Many people who have got rescue cats feel very strongly about this and as an owner of many rescued cats in the past I have to say I see their point. However recently we tried to get a Kitten as we've had so many rescued fully growned cats that we wanted a kitten as you dont have those questions that you get with rescue ones. By questions I mean about their past. One of our current past rescue ones has half a tail and we have no idea how, this makes it hard for us to understand his behaviour sometimes and many rescue cats have underlying illnesses. So you get to the point you want just one fresh start.
When we tried to find a kitten however we had many problems just finding one and had to drive a fair bit out in order to finally get one. I love her jsut as much as the other cats.

My point is I understand many people having frustration at people who dont get their cats sorted however personally I think if their willing to accept responsibility for finding good homes and if need be keeping them if they cant and getting their cat sorted as soon as the litters cant be found homes it shouldnt be a problem. Also I find it a bit mean only pure breeds can breed, some of the mix breeds shouldnt be considered outcasts and unwanted.

Also I know some people criticise people who look for kittens rather than rescue homes but for some people its not about the cute factor but having a pet that started out its life with you with no huge gaps.

Sorry gone on a bit here, so basically yes original answer is they dont need litters to stay healthy and if you do breed be ready for the responsability. Personally I'll try to get rescue cats most of the time.
post #21 of 25
There have been some really really really great responses to your original question Anna! I hope that you've gained more information to help you make an informed decision to do what's best for your cat.

Welcome!
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by Larks View Post

Also I find it a bit mean only pure breeds can breed, some of the mix breeds shouldnt be considered outcasts and unwanted.
There is a reason for that. With purebreds you know what to expect, you know what gentic tests the cat needs so you can prevent disease and heraditary problems in the future. you can also show them to find out if they meet the breed standard and should be producing more and more.to why breed mroe mixed breeds when the world is already overrun with them? it is just like all the crazy people breeding mixed mutt dogs for hundreds and thousands of dollars. Breeding should be about keeping the breeds true to their standards and keeping the breeds in existance. Not about making money, or about just having kittens because you like them. There is no point in breeding mixed breeds because they can't be shown or anything and they have no standard to strive for. But also because there are already millions too many, and so VERY many being killed everyday because they are unwanted.
post #23 of 25
The only reason a mixed breed should be bred is if its in a controlled breeding program with purebreds. Many purebreds started out as mixes - American SH, British SH, Rexes. BUT the difference is you had dedicated breeders that had a goal/standard they were breeding to so that a breed could be controlled and consistent.

ANY of the kittens that didn't fit the standard were spayed/neutered and petted out to loving homes. It was not a "oh I want to keep breeding my cat cause its pretty, etc."

What you are doing is irresponsible. You have no standard you are working on - all you are doing is creating more kittens where maybe 1 in 10 will find a long lasting home. Most of them will be either turned over to shelters when the owner gets tired of the cute kitten who's a wild teenager or dumped on the side of the road for whatever reason. You might think you have great homes for your kittens - but do you REALLY know where this kitten is 5 yrs from the time its born? Since you have no insistance on spaying/neutering them before they leave, you are being irresponsible by allowing someone else to continue breeding their "cute" mixed breed kitten.
post #24 of 25
Pedigree/ pure breed doesnt mean they have less chance of being disregarded. We've had a pedigree dog before from a rescue home complete with papers. At the end of the day its not possible just to get a cat for shows , you've got to want it as a pet as in to love it no matter what. Pure breed or mix they can be loved just as much either way.

Basically this is a very complex topic but my point is that people seem to jump on owners who have one litter and are willing to take care of the kittens and properly vet the owners. But think its ok to breed as many pure breeds from proper long term Breeders.
So basically if the pet owner is absolutely clear about what is expected of them, willing to take care of litter and understand the reponsability then they shouldnt be called irresponsible pet owners as it seems to me their being very responsible.
I just think people should be ganging up less on pet owners who want a litter and concentrate on the real issue, the people who dont take care of their pet and give it up.
post #25 of 25
If those cats weren't bred in the first place, there wouldn't be nearly as many without homes. I think the problem is that it is just too out of hand. There are just too many to justify breeding more. Too many people just letting random mixed breed cats be born for no reason. Kittens are born inbred, with health issues, with FeLV and FIV. If the population wasn't so bad then it would be totally different.

Does the OP even screen the cats for FIV/FeLV? Are they all vaccinated and thoroughly tested for genetic health problems? Is there an adoption contract and fee to not only ensure good homes, but also to make sure the animal is returned when it is no longer wanted, is spayed or neutered and is vetted when necessary? Does the OP even check for a vet reference to make sure the adoptive home actually has a concept of what is involved in owning a cat? If not then she is not being at all responsible. Mixed breeds or not.
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