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post #31 of 57
I don't think 67 cents per pill is expensive. I think it is pretty darn reasonable.

You will save more than 67 cents a day in the food you won't eat.
post #32 of 57
I heard about this stuff. As soon as I heard that it keeps fat from being absorbed into the GI tract, my first thought was, "wow, lots of people will be p00ping in their pants!"

I guess if you have the money and like doing lots of laundry, then it's worth it. Me, I just eat right and exercise. If I took it, I'd die.
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Ever heard of exercise?
What the heck is that supposed to mean? I have 3 kids under age 7 and a husband yes I know what exercise is. And does that help me much nope. Do I eat fatty foods Nope. Do I eat fried foods Nope.

Suddenly I regret ever posting this.
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
I don't think Hoodia whould do me much good. If I understand correctly its just an appetite suppressant. And already I eat like lunch and dinner and maybe a small snack in between. I honestly need something that will more or less really pick my energy levels way up.
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Ever heard of exercise?
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
What the heck is that supposed to mean? I have 3 kids under age 7 and a husband yes I know what exercise is. And does that help me much nope. Do I eat fatty foods Nope. Do I eat fried foods Nope.

Suddenly I regret ever posting this.
I believe all that was meant is that exercise increases energy levels.
post #35 of 57
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
I believe all that was meant is that exercise increases energy levels.
That's how I perceived it.
post #36 of 57
Thread Starter 
Maybe I am grouchy and took that the wrong way. Just because one says they have low energy levels does not mean they do not know what exercise is. In fact when I was excersing 5 out of 7 days it did not help me at all with my energy levels. Right now at this very moment I can not get out and do as much as I want when I want.
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
Maybe I am grouchy and took that the wrong way. Just because one says they have low energy levels does not mean they do not know what exercise is. In fact when I was excersing 5 out of 7 days it did not help me at all with my energy levels. Right now at this very moment I can not get out and do as much as I want when I want.
Now why doesn't that surprise me? With three kids under the age of 7, I'd be surprised if you managed to get any kind of "personal time"! I would probably be bouncing off the walls.
post #38 of 57
Ping, I did only mean that it would increase your energy levels. And I meant it lightly, which is why I put the grin after it. Sorry if I upset you.

I wonder, if you are having trouble losing weight with exercise and diet then you probably would meet the criteria of this kind of pill. But even still, I would go and have a check up - some bloods, that kind of thing - just to make sure there wasn't an underlying thyroid deficiency or metabolic disorder.
post #39 of 57
Mmm, yes, lack of sleep can take an unbelievable toll on both your mind and body (and with 3 kids under 7, I imagine you probably aren't getting all you need ). Also, I'd tell your doctor about your lack of energy and maybe get your thyroid checked (low thyroid can cause the things you described).

I really don't understand why someone would take this drug. I would certainly hope no one took it for long! Not absorbing any/some fats can cause other problems like not getting fat soluble vitamins (K- need it to clot blood, E, etc.) which can be a big problem, aside from the embarrassing "anal leakage" thing!

Cystic Fibrosis patients (with both mild and severe disease) often take a lot of enzymes to help them digest their food, especially fats, and supplements for the fat soluble vitamins. I don't know why anybody would want to reproduce that effect in their body!

I am not critizing anyone for thinking of taking it- just concerned that anyone would! Especially over the counter, without being monitored by a doctor...
post #40 of 57
Thread Starter 
I can say on their website they do tell you to take a good multi vitamin with this pill.

As for if I will take it or not well nothing is set in stone until the boys go back to school at the end of July. Once they go back to school I can get a good 1-1 1/2 hrs of walking in (gotta drive to town to do that) 4 days a week. I do get enough sleep. At least a good 8 hours at least. I will keep tabs on reviews and such with this new pill for now.
post #41 of 57
Ping, I got my thyroid checked when I felt like that and sure enough, I have an underactive thyroid. I take synthroid, a cheap pill, that is $26.00 for 3 month supply. That is worth checking out.
Just make your primary dr. due it, don't let him send you to an Endriconlogist (sp).
post #42 of 57
I admit I have not read the hole thread , but I have done alot of reaserch on diet pills. Basicly it comes down to this. Before even thinking about taking one, ask yourself. Do I want to take something that may or may not kill me. Am I willing to put my life on the same chances as flipping a coin?

By this I mean, think about it. Just because the FDA approves something does not mean its safe. You have no idea how your body will react to man made chemicals that alter the way it works. To me that is not just normal. You would not take a drug that does exactly the sme thing but is illegal or has not been approved. You are trusting your life to the government. The same people who said broccoli was bad just to change their minds a year later. Same thing with eggs.

Okay I will get off my soapbox now. For me I would never take something like that. The only one I have found that I would even consider is Hoodia. It is a 100% natural appetite surpressant. It exsist in nature. It is a cactus in Africa, used for years. I is just starting to get recocnition. I personally would much rather try something natural over man made. But at the same time I probably never will because I don't want to risk it. Besides pills have only been around for what like 20 years or so? Before that regular exersise and proper diet worked just fine. Why mess with it now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodia
post #43 of 57
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Ever heard of exercise?
how about those people that really unable to exercise
post #44 of 57
Who said anything about them? I didn't - in fact I qualified those people in an earlier post.
post #45 of 57
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
how about those people that really unable to exercise
If you are unable to exercise because you are too overwieght, then you have gotten past thepoint of being able to just take a pill. You have reached the point of needing full medical intervension. I know it sounds harsh but true. If a diet pill is strong enough to burn fat when you still can't mve than it really is NOT good for you. Think about what it does internaly. Now if you can't exresice because of injury, well then a diet pill still is not good for you. Especialy if you are taking any other form of medications. The drug interactions would be too great. Diet pills are made for people who need to lose under 100 pounds, and thats pushing it. Most people who take diet pills need to lose whats know as vanity pounds 20-40 max(knowticed I said MOST not ALL). Thats who they market to. Basic exersise and change of diet will do take that amount of weight off, no need to pop pills. Plus on of the main things that ALL pills say is that you will only notice a differance with exersise and proper diet. They are basicly telling you to do just that, no need to take a pill, just change your lifestyle.
post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
I can say on their website they do tell you to take a good multi vitamin with this pill.
That's a start . Make sure it has vitamin K, if you decide to go that route .
post #47 of 57
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Originally Posted by KarmasMom View Post
If you are unable to exercise because you are too overwieght, .
coming form personal xp, After frist breaking my back, for almost a year, i was unable to do more then sit up. it was 6 months until i was able to get up and walk well enough to go back to work. So there are people out there that are just not able to do enough exercise to make a difference.
post #48 of 57
Ping, it does sound like you have your hands full.
When i was always feeling tired and run down, no matter how much sleep i got, i finally went to doc who after some tests found out that i had diabetes.
hehe, but with the kids i bet they do tire you out.
post #49 of 57
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Originally Posted by KarmasMom View Post
I Do I want to take something that may or may not kill me. Am I willing to put my life on the same chances as flipping a coin?

By this I mean, think about it. Just because the FDA approves something does not mean its safe. You have no idea how your body will react to man made chemicals that alter the way it works. You would not take a drug that does exactly the sme thing but is illegal or has not been approved. You are trusting your life to the government.
I personally would much rather try something natural over man made. Besides pills have only been around for what like 20 years or so? Before that regular exersise and proper diet worked just fine.
This is why I think they are so scary and harmful.
A wise man once said, "I trust cows more than scientists when it comes to butter." He meant he trusts Mother Nature more than humans messing around with all sorts of unnatural products to make a butter like substance. I tend to agree. I know the FDA has approved things before that caused birth defects and great harm to users. Too risky.
post #50 of 57
Especially because margerine is just one molecule away from being plastic. That did it for me.
post #51 of 57
Lol, yes. There is no margarine in our house. I would rather lick paint.
post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Lol, yes. There is no margarine in our house. I would rather lick paint.

oh man, i wish i could get people here to go along with that,
they still think margarine is better for you.
post #53 of 57
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Lol, yes. There is no margarine in our house. I would rather lick paint.
Amen to that!
post #54 of 57
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
coming form personal xp, After frist breaking my back, for almost a year, i was unable to do more then sit up. it was 6 months until i was able to get up and walk well enough to go back to work. So there are people out there that are just not able to do enough exercise to make a difference.
I just want to say, later in my post I discuss injury. Breaking your back would infact be injury and not just being overweight. In an injury situation there are bigger issues at stake than weight and pant size. When you broke you back I am sure the last thing on your mind was how you looked. Hopefully you were more concerned about getting better.

Diet pills are for vanity pounds and thats it. If they are the stronger ones for more than 100 pounds, just stop and think about what it would do to your body before you take it. Do want to speed up your heart or screw up your metabolism to such a degree that if you ever stopped taking them you could no longer process food. Plus they are addicting. It gets to the point where you will need to take them just to feel normal. I had aproblem with dextatrim when I was you nger. Even after I had los the weight I wanted to lose I kept taking them because they made me feel good and gave me energy.

I know people here have sugested Thyrod and a few other things but have you given any though to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)?
http://www.cdc.gov/cfs/

It is a serious issue. More than 1 million americans suffer it. Most of whome don't even know it. I would consider talking with you r doctor about his as well as the other ides. It would give them a few directions to go in.
post #55 of 57
P ass The Butter ... please .
This is interesting . . . . .

Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with this product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new flavorings.

DO YOU KNOW.. the difference between margarine and butter?

Read on to the end...gets very interesting!

Both have the same amount of calories.

Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams.

Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.

Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods.

Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few
only because they are added!

Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods.

Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years .

And now, for Margarine..

Very high in trans fatty acids.

Triple risk of coronary heart disease .
Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)

Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold.

Lowers quality of breast milk.

Decreases immune response.

Decreases insulin response.

And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING!

Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC..

This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance).

You can try this yourself:

Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things:

* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should tell you something)

* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?

Share This With Your Friends.....(If you want to "butter them up")!
post #56 of 57
I may give it a try as well.But, will have to wait for it to be around for a bit first.
post #57 of 57
I never knew that about maragarine, but usually used butter simply because of the better taste, but I will never touch the stuff again!!
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