when I had litter box issues, the guilty party was confined by themselves, with a litter box with Cat attract. As soon as litter box habits started going back to normal, I would allow supervised visitations out of the room. Just kept doing this until he was trustworthy out in the house, and it never happened again. But you are correct that if the uirine has soaked into the subfloor, it will have to be cleaned and primered probably. The cat can still smell it, even if you get it clean enough that you can't. And my cats loved thecat attract litter, so much so that they slept in the litterboxes.
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I don't want to put him to sleep!
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No one can get on your case for considering putting your cat to sleep. You obviously love your cat and have been trying everything you know to stop this. Many times someone new will come on this forum and have tried nothing and have just decided their cat is bad and have pretty much already decided to get rid of their cat. You obviously do not fall in that category. I know it is frustrating but given his long history of using a litterbox I really think there is a solution and hard as it is if you keep trying you will find the solution.
I don't think anyone is suggesting you don't know how to pill a cat. Some are more difficult then others and it never hurts to know what others tricks are! Jake also foams at the mouth if I'm pilling and don't get it far enough back. I use the piller (Momofmany calls it a pill gun) to get it more toward the back of his mouth/throat and then release it. You can get them at stores like petsmart and they are only about $3.00. Then you have to hold their mouth shut and rub the front of the neck. Jake doesn't foam this way and I know he's swallowed it when he starts trying to put his tounge out to lick his chops! To open a reluctant cats mouth, one really needs to place the hands over the top of the kitty and use thumb on one side and fingers on the other to open the mouth from the side. Works every time. It's almost like it is a reflex for them to open this way.
It really sounds like he's just not completely over his UTI and really needs to finish those meds. If he's associating the litter box with pain maybe you could try getting a new litter pan and moving it to a different spot with some cat attract in it. Then he'll have a box that isn't associated with pain since it doesn't have the old familiar odors in the old familiar place.
It really sounds like he's just not completely over his UTI and really needs to finish those meds. If he's associating the litter box with pain maybe you could try getting a new litter pan and moving it to a different spot with some cat attract in it. Then he'll have a box that isn't associated with pain since it doesn't have the old familiar odors in the old familiar place.
I can sympathise...Leopold is the first cat I've seen who CAN keep his mouth firmly shut with his nose pointed at the sky. No reflexes on that boy.
I would highly recommend a repeat urinalysis. If that comes up clean, I think the confinement is a good idea. A bathroom that has no absorbent surfaces anywhere is good, or a good sized dog crate works too. I have seen the super deluxe huge dog crates locally for $79...the biggest one that costs double at Petsmart. Maybe you can call around and find a similar deal.
The antidepressants do work. Prozac and Paxil are the best for this IMO.
Oh and a less expensive alternative to Feliway spray is "No Mark". It works on the same principle, i.e it's a pheromone spray - not a deterrent. 16oz for $9.99 is a heck of a deal compared to $28 for a tiny bottle. I'm a satisfied customer if you can't tell.
With Nature's Miracle on carpet, you really have to soak the area well so that it can get down to the carpet's under layer. I found that I wasn't getting the job done until I really saturated it.
It does sound like the cat is still remembering the pain from before, or more likely is smelling the scent in places where he used to be. It's only been a few months, and also he may not have had time to get over the stress of the illness... if you give him some more time and work hard on re-training, he'll forget eventually.
It does sound like the cat is still remembering the pain from before, or more likely is smelling the scent in places where he used to be. It's only been a few months, and also he may not have had time to get over the stress of the illness... if you give him some more time and work hard on re-training, he'll forget eventually.
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So today I went out on a mission-I bought Cat Attract, a plastic drop cloth, a larger plastic container to use as a litter box. Got home to fine the container had a crack in it so I will have to exchange it tomorrow.
Cleaned the current two litter boxes, one is covered (large booda dome) and the other is just a normal rectangle box. The booda dome the cats have been using for about 8 years, but I just bought a new one when Tornado started pooping outside the box just in case he didn't like the old box.
Put the old litter in the booda dome just in case Phoebe didn't like the Cat Attract; I don't need two cats using the floor!! The litter box with Cat Attract has been moved to a new corner of the room and the old area has been covered with the plastic drop cloth. If Tornado decides to pee on the drop cloth, at least I can see it and clean it ASAP. While I was fixing the drop cloth, Tornado went over to the Cat Attract litter and smelled it, but wouldn't get in. I am hoping that is a good sign.
I hope we have good luck with this as I really don't want to confine him to a small area. If I have to, I do have an extra large dog crate; it just doesn't have to height the cat condo's do, but it will work in a pinch.
Wish me luck!!!
Cleaned the current two litter boxes, one is covered (large booda dome) and the other is just a normal rectangle box. The booda dome the cats have been using for about 8 years, but I just bought a new one when Tornado started pooping outside the box just in case he didn't like the old box.
Put the old litter in the booda dome just in case Phoebe didn't like the Cat Attract; I don't need two cats using the floor!! The litter box with Cat Attract has been moved to a new corner of the room and the old area has been covered with the plastic drop cloth. If Tornado decides to pee on the drop cloth, at least I can see it and clean it ASAP. While I was fixing the drop cloth, Tornado went over to the Cat Attract litter and smelled it, but wouldn't get in. I am hoping that is a good sign.
I hope we have good luck with this as I really don't want to confine him to a small area. If I have to, I do have an extra large dog crate; it just doesn't have to height the cat condo's do, but it will work in a pinch.
Wish me luck!!!
I'm sure if Tornado could get a meow-English translator, he'd probably say, "Thanks
You sound like a cat-lover-on-a-mission.
GOOD LUCK! GOOD LUCK! and GOOD LUCK!
I would use that first hand to SCRUFF the cat otherwise you will get bit! Especailly if the cat is feral!
Awwww.......that is soooo sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by whiskerynature
I'm sure if Tornado could get a meow-English translator, he'd probably say, "Thanksfor doing everything you can for me! Sorry I'm peeing all over
. Thanks for being patient!"
My mother's cat, Cleo, will not poo in the box...ONLY PEE!! Figure that out. We've tried everything and it just continues. Granted, poo is easier to deal with....but she just put down carpet reminent (spelling?) where she does the job. Another option for you to try since it is carpet your cat likes!
I'm repeating what has already been said but....one of my cats started peeing outside the litter box (on carpet, the cat beds, clothes, shoes, a box of cat toys, bean bag chairs x 2 etc.). Well he had a UTI with some crystals. It turns out he had swallowed a 9" red ribbon. He ended up chucking it out with a hairball.
But he still peed outside the litter box after that. I threw everything out he had peed on which by that time included 2 down duvets; he left no stone unturned. I got rid of carpet too. Cleaned the floor underneath. He wouldn't use the litter boxes because I do think he associated them with the pain from the UTI. The solution was finishing his antibiotics plus Cat Attract. He loved it. As soon as I put it out he went immediately in that litter box (I bought him a new litter box) AND so did all the other cats. So I had to change all the litter boxes to Cat Attract. I haven't had any problems since and it's been about 6 months now.
Good luck. My house smelled like cat pee I know what it's like. But there was a reason behind the behaviour. We fixed the reason and with the new litter box and the Cat Attract got him back to being happy about using the litter box. He is such a sweet boy and the material goods I threw away, well, as they went into the dumpster I figured, How many duvets do you need in Texas anyway.
But he still peed outside the litter box after that. I threw everything out he had peed on which by that time included 2 down duvets; he left no stone unturned. I got rid of carpet too. Cleaned the floor underneath. He wouldn't use the litter boxes because I do think he associated them with the pain from the UTI. The solution was finishing his antibiotics plus Cat Attract. He loved it. As soon as I put it out he went immediately in that litter box (I bought him a new litter box) AND so did all the other cats. So I had to change all the litter boxes to Cat Attract. I haven't had any problems since and it's been about 6 months now.
Good luck. My house smelled like cat pee I know what it's like. But there was a reason behind the behaviour. We fixed the reason and with the new litter box and the Cat Attract got him back to being happy about using the litter box. He is such a sweet boy and the material goods I threw away, well, as they went into the dumpster I figured, How many duvets do you need in Texas anyway.
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lyric-Wow! If Tornado were peeing in other locations my husband would want him out immediately! He is not a cat lover, but he doesn't hate them. Because the pee has been contained in a room that we don't use, my husband has been tolerant. He is not happy about replacing the carpet as it was in great condition. I can't blame his as this isn't an expense we needed especially after paying for Tornado's surgery as well as some medical bills of my own. I hope the Cat Attract will work as I don't know how long we can put up with this behavior.
When using Cat Attract, once the cat is using the litter box all the time, would it be ok to mix with regular litter or must you use Cat Attract only in the box? It is not a cheap litter and I worry about Phoebe with her asthma. We have been using Swheat Scoop litter for the last several year and Phoebe has done well with it.
When using Cat Attract, once the cat is using the litter box all the time, would it be ok to mix with regular litter or must you use Cat Attract only in the box? It is not a cheap litter and I worry about Phoebe with her asthma. We have been using Swheat Scoop litter for the last several year and Phoebe has done well with it.
I know this is silly but I wish that they would make diapers like they do for dogs. Those doggie diapers...
Angie
Angie
I did find a link for cat/dog diapers!
I don't know if I can place the link though.
If interested, let me know.
Angie
I don't know if I can place the link though.
If interested, let me know.
Angie
I have two covered litter boxes in my house. Under each of them I have a large square of linoleum (Cushion Floor - don't know what you call it in America) which is easy to clean should there be an "accident" (also useful if I have an accident when cleaning the litter box - like dropping it on the floor, contents and all
). When cats stop using their litter boxes it is usually because there is something physically wrong with them or they are upset about something, a change in their routine perhaps. It really is a difficult one to sort out because they keep using the spot they've soiled. Using any kind of cleaner with ammonia in it just attracts them back to the same spot again.
Some time ago when I had a similar problem with one of my foster cats I was told by one of my friends in the Cat's Protection League to wash the carpet with water which had a good squirt of washing-up liquid in it, giving it a fairly good soaking, get as much of the excess water out as possible (having a Vax cleaner helps on this), then repeating the process several times with just plain water. Let the carpet dry (stop cat from entering that room) then once the carpet is dry clean the area again with Surgical Spirit. DO NOT smoke near it as it's highly flammable if you're a smoker. Let that dry completely (doesn't take too long - maybe a few hours) and that will have completely removed any trace of the cat's urine so the cat shouldn't smell anything familiar and hopefully he should not urinate on this spot again. I've used this method and it does work.
Some time ago when I had a similar problem with one of my foster cats I was told by one of my friends in the Cat's Protection League to wash the carpet with water which had a good squirt of washing-up liquid in it, giving it a fairly good soaking, get as much of the excess water out as possible (having a Vax cleaner helps on this), then repeating the process several times with just plain water. Let the carpet dry (stop cat from entering that room) then once the carpet is dry clean the area again with Surgical Spirit. DO NOT smoke near it as it's highly flammable if you're a smoker. Let that dry completely (doesn't take too long - maybe a few hours) and that will have completely removed any trace of the cat's urine so the cat shouldn't smell anything familiar and hopefully he should not urinate on this spot again. I've used this method and it does work.
Hi Pokey
About your question, can you mix the Cat Attract with another litter...
Eventually I did that in some of the boxes. I left 2 of the boxes just Cat Attract and mixed the others. It seems that all the boxes are used but the Cat Attract box seems to get the most use. Maybe do a box of Cat Attract and a box of the wheat litter, the cats can choose.
About your question, can you mix the Cat Attract with another litter...
Eventually I did that in some of the boxes. I left 2 of the boxes just Cat Attract and mixed the others. It seems that all the boxes are used but the Cat Attract box seems to get the most use. Maybe do a box of Cat Attract and a box of the wheat litter, the cats can choose.
Swheat Scoop is unscented, right? You can actually by the Cat Attract litter additive from your vet (I don't know why it's only available from the vet) and mix it with your own choice of unscented litter. That might make it less expensive.
http://www.preciouscat.com/attract-l...-your-p-7.html
http://www.preciouscat.com/attract-l...-your-p-7.html
Hmmm...is this the same stuff? It looks like petfooddirect has it.
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/p...8S0H26HE500439
I just saw this, and all i can say is that no one would hate you. I know you're doing the best that you can, and I will be praying for you and for TOrnado.
Cat Attract comes in pure litter form and also they sell it as an additive. The additive has a stronger odor so that it still attracts them to the litter. It doesn't sound like you are using strongly scented litters in the first place so it will work very well. I usually see the additive's at vets offices, but you can also get it online. When I used it, it was the additive form.
btw, slightly off topic but also slightly on: Dr Elsey, the inventor, is a cat specialist in Englewood Colorado. He works closely with universities to keep up on all of the recent findings concerning cat health. My best friend brings her cats to him and I can't say enough how much I trust him and his products.
Hi
i have a cat with asthma too, the Cat Attract litter has virtually no dust and i've had ****no problems with my boy using it
i do use wheat and corn litter also and because the cat attract is so expensive i mix them
they just like it so much and i dont care for the smell of the wheat litter when its wet, so i mix it with the cat attract
i've never noticed any odor from the cat attract litter itself but then its supposed to appeal to cats not ppl LOL
but when i mix it with the swheetscoop it makes it so it doesnt have that funny yeast smell
i also just got this pelleted litter made with sweetgrass, i think? i'll have to check
i didnt want pellets, didnt know it was pellets, and i didnt think theyd like it, but they do, and my asthmatic boy has no trouble with it at all.
i am really shocked that my Nell will use it because she hates new things and wouldnt' use the other litters i've tried in the past.
good luck! this is such is a difficult problem!!
