Originally Posted by lunasmom
So what if you're skilled without a degree? Then you just accept to be treated unethically?! Or what if you have a degree but no skill? So then you just accept low pay?
Sorry, but I have a degree and I am skilled...I've been in the IT setting for over 7 years nows. My last job could not make their numbers to replace the people that quit (or got fired). So the ones that were left had to take on the additional responsibilities WITH A SMILE or else you were threatened with the line "Well we may need to be laying people off soon..." It took me 1 1/2 years to find this job...that is because over 500 people
applied per job in IT here. That's up since 2002 when I graduated...it was 300 applicants back then.
Michigan's economy is far from booming right now as it is in other parts of the country. In this state it doesn't matter if you have a degree or not...you can get laid off at any time.
If you have a degree and no skills, then you'd better start learning some because you're as good as any other chum that's fresh out of college. Just because you have a degree means nothing, and in company eyes it means they need to spend money to train you, aka a loss for them.
If you're skilled without a degree, then perhaps you should work on getting one. A degree is basically a standardized way of stating your base achievements and abilities. You can be wildly skilled, but not having a degree raises eyebrows (what's keeping you?).
If your biggest fear is being laid off, then the trick is to become an integral part of the company or group you work for. If they are dumb enough to lay you off, then they will fall apart. There are numerous ways to do this. Being the workhorse/backbone of the company is one, but involves a lot of stress. Another is keeping others in the dark about what you actually do, so that no one else can replace you (i.e. make your programs purposefully complex and convoluted, or your files organized in a fashion only you can understand), and IF they lay you off they'll be blown back into the stone age. There are other more ethical, and devious ways, but if you can attain that core functional position, you're pretty safe (unless your boss is dumb, in which case you have the pleasure of watching him suffer, or even better, grovel to you to come back into the group).
I used to work in Michigan, horrible place to work, get out of there. I moved to Ohio (
GASP! Traitor! yeah I know), and my salary literally doubled and people are much more ethical here in the work environment. Funny thing is, I'm still not satisfied, so I'll be on the move again here shortly.