Originally Posted by neetanddave
Quick to judge? These people have already been judged, and convicted. I didn't judge anyone, except to say they have no excuses for their crimes they have been convicted of. They did get convicted, remember?
As far as your personal experiences, I wouldn't think that EVERY woman there had been raped.
I would hope that someone would have realized that the Metis people need more help than a college education if that were the case.
I don't get the idea that you have been truly forgiving, as you mention incidents that happened over 10 years ago. If you were so forgiving, why do you need to bring them up again?
I have bitterness AND a solution. REAL TIME for real crime. The death penalty.
I wish everything could be puppy dogs and flowers, but the world isn't like that. You say you live in the core area and work with kids to keep them out of trouble. That is fine, that's your contribution. But don't expect the rest of the world to subsidize you or anyone else and not comment on it.
Explain how you would handle things if YOUR rapist gets an education in prison and then comes out and becomes your boss.
First, I didn't mean you were too quick to judge the convicted, but rather judging me quickly, assuming nothing bad has ever happened to me because I want better for all.
Second just because a person forgives another person doesn't mean they have to forget, because to forget would be to have never learned anything from the situation. I honestly have forgiven. I still have fears and things of that nature, but I do not hate and I have no ill will. In fact it my experiences that only wish positive things for those people. I wished that they had something better in their lives before so that the situations may have been prevented.
It is a very small college with only 18 people within my year. I don't care what you think because I know and they know what has happened to them. My best friend has been sexually abused by friends of the family since being a young child and has been in serious counselling for 9 years now. Her mind blocks things out, but for some reason she hurts in a specific place everytime she smell cig smoke. Another friend was raped by her first boyfriend. Another friend was raped at the age of 12 by her brother's older friend while her mother was passed out. These are only a few of the sad stories we have lived with and overcome. You may not want to believe me, but it is a reality for a lot of people.
As for your solution, well there is life sentences and death penalties already. I got two questions. How is that working for our society now? If those "solutions" worked so well then why are there so many people in prisions?
It just isn't working. Maybe it's time to try something a little different.
Also, I don't just say, I do. I take my job extremely serious. I don't expect people not to comment, I just wish they'd put there actions where their mouth is.
For me, I truly do hope that those people who have hurt me in the past have gone onto something better in their lives. I hope they have learned they don't have to hurt other or themselves and that they are worthy or better and that they can do better. The one thing I know is that the only thing that comes out of anger and hate is more anger and hate, so I CHOOSE not to live my life that way anymore.
Originally Posted by neetanddave
Oh, and who do you think pays for "free" education? The taxpayers.
How about if the taxpayers keep their tax money and pay to send THEIR families to college? It would all work out then.
Oh, then the poor couldn't go. Well GET A JOB AND DON'T BE POOR! You CAN overcome poverty, right?
DUde, I work full time, my husband works full time and we still aren't above the poverty line. We work darn hard. You can overcome poverty but it is extremely hard to break the cycle. The only way I will is by graduating with a university degree which would not have been possible except for my tutition being paid.
You make it sound so simple but I know many people who are living proof that it isn't as easy as you think or make it sound.
Another thing is that if we do educate these people and they can get a successful job after life in jail, then become contributing members of society that also will pay taxes, so in my mind it all works out.
I mean I could gripe about paying tax dollars for health care in my country for smokers who are making a choice to ruin their health BUT I don't anymore because I think that in the end, it all balances out and we give a little we get a little.