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post #31 of 42
I'm very sorry to hear about that, and it probably won't help, but it was probably the best thing to do for the kittens, since reading this thread it seems like anaesthesia most likely damaged them. It's not your fault. I've never dealt with a pregnant cat myself, so I have no idea how easy or hard it is to tell, but don't think badly of or second guess yourself.

Tricia
post #32 of 42
I feel that there were some pretty rude posts. We don't want to scare away any new members. There are members on TCS that have declawed their cats, just the majority of people don't believe in it. In the past (before I knew better) I had my cats all declawed. You going to scream at me too? Maybe this person has a really good explanation for doing this? You don't know!

If anyone would like to talk more about declawing/not declawing their cats; feel free to PM me. I won't bite I promise

Anyway, back on topic. I think I would have been pretty upset with that vet for going ahead without my permission. I do NOT believe in having the babies terminated UNLESS their is a medical problem that it MUST be done.
post #33 of 42
Thread Starter 
well, ellie is back home! she seems to be doing just fine. she's laying out side our office right now, just chillin and right now she doesn't seem to be in any pain, but she is on pain meds.

and i feel much better after talking to the vet when i picked her up. he said if they had reached me yesterday, they would have reccommended the spay anyway. so that's probably what we would have done. he said yes, the kittens could have and probably were affected by the anesthesia so it was best just to spay.

so i'm so glad she's home and now i have to be sure to give her lots of hugs and kisses!

post #34 of 42
oh shes pretty. Give her some extra hugs from me too.
post #35 of 42
I'm glad Ellie is home and acting fine. She's gorgeous!
post #36 of 42
She is lovely I hope she recovers from surgery quickly and I hope you continue to visit TCS and ask questions and get informed on anything that comes up with her! This community is really very helpful, just sometimes very opinionated when it comes to issues about cats especially. Please don't let that discourage you.

TCS is very informative and I think I speak for everyone when I say we'd all love to see pictures of her from time to time! She is beautiful
post #37 of 42
Wow what a pretty face!!!!! I hope she recovers fast and stays happy and healthy!
post #38 of 42
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Originally Posted by mybabyphx View Post
I feel that there were some pretty rude posts. We don't want to scare away any new members. There are members on TCS that have declawed their cats, just the majority of people don't believe in it. In the past (before I knew better) I had my cats all declawed. You going to scream at me too? Maybe this person has a really good explanation for doing this? You don't know!

If anyone would like to talk more about declawing/not declawing their cats; feel free to PM me. I won't bite I promise

Anyway, back on topic. I think I would have been pretty upset with that vet for going ahead without my permission. I do NOT believe in having the babies terminated UNLESS their is a medical problem that it MUST be done.
Nobody `screamed at' anyone. Amputation is actually a perfectly medically correct description of a declaw because that is exactly what happens. It's not removing the claws, it's removing the bone - the same as if you had all of your first finger joints removed. The medical and psychological implications are many and complicated, and it is on the list of punishable offences of felony animal cruelty by the RSPCA in this country.

As this board is primarily about animal welfare, and as declawing is an issue of welfare (which is why it is illegal in just about every country except the US) and as this board is about promoting welfare, declawing is a hot topic and people can get very angry about it.

That has not happened here at all. Despite the views I know that every single poster holds about this, everyone has stayed quiet and calm and polite - which is part of the reason this is such a lovely board. If our aim is to educate, occasionally people are not going to like what we have to say. To the OP's credit, she did not leave the board after that one comment, and hopefully she will stay and continue to explore the wonderful world of cats with us, and learn more about this procedure and many other welfare issues. I hope this is the case - everyone here welcomes all cat lovers with open arms, and many who don't know much about declawing or other welfare issues stick around and learn and realise that we are never against anybody here, but only ever thinking in terms of what is best for cats.

As for the abortion/spay - I think it is disgraceful that the vet would go ahead without permission and then have the cheek to charge extra for it. Despite all the missed calls and messages, if you can't contact someone, you don't go ahead. This happened to my Auntie - she went into hospital for routine abdominal surgery and the doctor gave her a hysterectomy without asking anyone's permission - her husband was right outside! They sued and won. She wanted more kids and was never able to have them - and worst of all, it was determined afterwards that the hysterectomy was unnecessary anyway.

Why should it be any different with our cats? They cannot speak for themselves so it is up to us to speak for them. The vet had no right whatsoever to do this procedure and I feel that the OP is within her rights to refuse to pay for any of it at all.
post #39 of 42
Your Ellie is beautiful! I'm glad she's home and doing well.
It sounds as if the vet put your mind at ease about the anesthesia affecting the kittens. It's too bad they couldn't tell she was pregnant before hand, but it does seem as if he made the right call. I do think it was a bit out of line to charge extra for it, tho.
As long as you're happy and Ellie's happy--I'm happy, too.
post #40 of 42
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Your Ellie is beautiful! I'm glad she's home and doing well.
It sounds as if the vet put your mind at ease about the anesthesia affecting the kittens. It's too bad they couldn't tell she was pregnant before hand, but it does seem as if he made the right call. I do think it was a bit out of line to charge extra for it, tho.
As long as you're happy and Ellie's happy--I'm happy, too.
yes, i do too, but i actually paid for it. by the time i got there, i just didn't feel like yelling about it anymore. i have had an extremely tough week at work to top all of this off, so by yesterday evening, i just wanted to be done with the stress and take her home.
post #41 of 42
Happy to hear that your kitty is doing good!
post #42 of 42
Glad your girl is home! She's very pretty!
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