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Strawbery Quick - the drug to tempt your child

post #1 of 26
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This is SO scary to me!!!

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/drugs/candymeth.asp
post #2 of 26
I saw this in the paper. I'm confused by it, because meth isn't a "cool" drug. Kids don't do meth. I see methheads on a daily basis, they're not very young, even taking into account what meth does to your body.

Honestly it sounds like a bunch of media bs. Not that it exists, but that somehow it's luring children to do meth. We haven't had a good shovelful of drug hysteria in a long while now.

In other words, I agree with the Snopes' explanation of the stuff, and not the paper's, which made it sound like "Won't SOMEBODY think of the CHILDREN!"
post #3 of 26
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I personally see it as a tool to get the children into it. I can see some of this stuff being left where children frequent and some candy hungry young child would see it and being unattended, eat it.

post #4 of 26
This actually is very true and very real. I have a friend that I work with, her son,16 and his friends were busted a few weeks back for dealing meth. The youngest in the group was 13. They all admitted to using it as well. It apparently is becoming the new "party" drug. Apperently things like pcp, special K(also known as Ketamine a hourse traqualizer), herion and cocain are all back with a vengance. You can even buy legal ecstasy at any smoke shop in America.
Sellers are adding things like strawberry quick to entice kids at parties with the statement of it looks safe so it is. From what I know it is a larger problem in bigger cities but is slowly making its way into small towns. I spend alot of time talking with people who have teans, I also go to alot of clubs and shows. Some of the places are all ages. I remember about 6 months ago meating a girl who was 16. My Dh and I had gone to a show with some big name dj's performing, This girl was standing against the speaker and clearly she was out of it. We watched her for a while in complete amazment, the ampage and volume of the music was loud enough that you could feel it in your body when you were standing 100 feet from the speaker and she was up against it. When her friends finally dragged her to the bar for water my DH asked her friend what she was on. He told us she had taken "stardust". We both were like whats that. He then told us that it is a new form of pcp that taste like strawberries when you put it in your mouth. He said you could smoke it too and the smoke smells like sugar when it burns. We were completely shocked. He also told us that the high was better then ecstasy and cocain combined. My DH asked him how old they were and he said they were all 16. After the show we talked about it. Neither one of us could believe that kids that age even knew how these drugs felt much less how to get them. I also realize why and how it is happening. Look who the youth of today have to emulate. Lindsey Lohan, Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton to name a few. Those girls make "party" drugs seem cool.
post #5 of 26
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Karmas Mom - you are so right... they see these rich and famous young people and think it must be cool. Granted when I was growing up I still thought taking drugs was really moronic... so it's hard for me to understand anyone letting a mind-altering dangerous drug into their system willingly.
post #6 of 26
I was talking about children, I should have been more specific-- I don't consider high school to be children. Maybe because I'm only 22, but I don't think so.

I had done more and worse drugs before I was 16 than since, and now I won't touch them. Honestly, I don't think it has anything to do with Hollywood-- if anything seing those pictures of Lindsey Lohan passed out in her friends car makes it less glamorous.

I can't see meth really catching on. It isn't like coke or pot or any of the other popular drugs. Hopefully the "trend" will die before it starts.

I still agree with the article in the OP-- which says it's more of a branding sort of thing or maybe to get new people to try it, not necessarily younger. Media hysteria sometimes creates these trends.
post #7 of 26
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I agree it might be a way to get new people or to get someone to try a new/different drug.
post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I don't consider high school to be children. Maybe because I'm only 22, but I don't think so.


very real, A freinds 13 year old sone came home with some of those, several months ago, the good news is he gave them to his dad.

oh by the way, i must be getting old, i now see 22 as still being somewhat of a kid not that its a bad thing. But high school oh yea, those are still kids.
post #9 of 26
Kids DO do meth - teenagers are definitely kids and very young teenagers do meth. It's a HUGE problem in Australia - massive. It's cheap and it's easy to get, and is sooooo addictive. It's the scariest drug around, IMO.
post #10 of 26
Just to make it clear, I agree teenagers do use meth, I just don't agree that teenagers are children in the way that the newscrews here are claiming children are suddenly being attacked with this new stuff... the way they act you'd think they were talking about 7 year olds. Just so we don't get off topic.
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by fluffysimba View Post
Karmas Mom - you are so right... they see these rich and famous young people and think it must be cool.
And once they get hooked they find that it's expensive and their allowance doesn't pay for it, so they inturn become dealers in exhange for their fix. They then sell to their friensds in school. Kids are more likelyto trust a friend than a stranger, and so the circles go around.

Then many become ciminals and join gangs and steal in order to feed their habits.

Sad world we live in. I'm so glad tha I grew up in the 60's, at least most of the drug users were "safe" and only sat aroun smoking pot during their peace protests, LOL
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Just to make it clear, I agree teenagers do use meth, I just don't agree that teenagers are children in the way that the newscrews here are claiming children are suddenly being attacked with this new stuff... the way they act you'd think they were talking about 7 year olds. Just so we don't get off topic.
if you haven't talked to your kids about drugs and sex by the time they are 6, you're too late and bettter get on the ball and do it. Kids are being targeted younger and younger.

Ther were a rash of car thefts where I live one of the people involved is 8 or 9 years old...he's already stealing cars because he has a habit to feed.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
if you haven't talked to your kids about drugs and sex by the time they are 6, you're too late and bettter get on the ball and do it. Kids are being targeted younger and younger.

Ther were a rash of car thefts where I live one of the people involved is 8 or 9 years old...he's already stealing cars because he has a habit to feed.


A good friend of ours is a primary school teacher. He confiscated a bag of pot and an amphetamine pipe off one of his sixth graders a few months ago. He's seen a lot, but that freaked him out.
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I can't see meth really catching on. It isn't like coke or pot or any of the other popular drugs. Hopefully the "trend" will die before it starts.
Meth has already caught on in many many places. I also see it hits more rural places harder. Maybe its not bad in your area and thats why you don't see it catching on. But it has in other areas. This drug has already hit to close to my home. My younger sister's boyfriend (father to her daughter) is hooked on that crap and other stuff. Meth is real and catching on.

There is a show that came on a while back about meth and it catching on in areas. It was called Meth: County in Crisis. It showed a county in Missouri that meth has hit it in epic proportions.

This is a site about the meth problem in my state: http://www.gameth.com/
Here are stats about Meth in your state: http://www.in.gov/cji/methfreeindian...Fact_Sheet.pdf
http://parentingteens.about.com/libr...-meth-ohio.htm
post #15 of 26
A link on a story of a girl that started using meth at age 11:

http://www.craigdailypress.com/secti...al/story/12081
post #16 of 26
Ok, so I'm going to be completely honest here. I used to have a very bad addiction to Meth. I had a problem, my boyfriend did, my mom did back in the day, my dad did back in the day, some other family members and a lot of my friends. So I have truly experienced Meth first hand. Meth is very addicting. I did it one time, and I will admit I was addicted after that 1 time. I just needed more and more. I got too far into it, it took over me. I was doing whatever I could to get more... and that still wasn't enough. It got to the point where it wasn't even 'getting me high' anymore... so I had to get MORE to even feel anything from it. I don't even know how many times I've gotten high off of meth. I don't know how many days I've stayed awake high... It's very sad that I got that far into it.. I was the kid that didn't even know what it was until the day I did it! I had never heard of Meth before in my life, until that day. My mom and dad did it back in the day, they both quit and live better lives now. I however kept doing it with my boyfriend and our friends. I thought noone knew that I was on it, I was hiding it. My mom knew that I had a problem (this is when I lived in Iowa) and she called my dad (who lives in Arizona) and told him I needed to get out of that town. Now this town I'm talking about is NOT a big city, it's NOT hollywood, it's nothing special. It's not even on the map. It's a small town.... 'everyones doing it'. So 2 weeks after my mom called my dad, I moved to Arizona. To make a long story short, I live in Arizona now with my boyfriend (from Iowa) and our friend (from Iowa) We are all clean and don't do meth anymore. I haven't done it since June 2006 I have no plans on doing it, and won't even be friends with those people anymore. The only reason why I wrote all of this is so that way you guys can kind of 'understand' it's not easy... you think these people can just quit? No, it's not like that... once your doing it-- your doing it! You dont know you have a problem, you don't see it. I never did it because of Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, or any other famous person... It wasn't "cool" that they did it. I did it because it was fun. If there is ANYONE on TCS that needs to talk about Meth or any other drug addiction. Please PM me and I will help you through this as much as I can. I was there, I experienced this first hand.... I know what its like. I didn't even want to post this here on TCS for everyone to read about my personal life... but maybe, just maybe you will be able to understand what these kids are going through. Instead of putting them down for what they do, feel sorry for them that they can't stop. They are in too far at this point! As for this other 'new' stuff, I've never heard of it... but it will soon be everywhere...
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
Meth has already caught on in many many places. I also see it hits more rural places harder. Maybe its not bad in your area and thats why you don't see it catching on. But it has in other areas. This drug has already hit to close to my home. My younger sister's boyfriend (father to her daughter) is hooked on that crap and other stuff. Meth is real and catching on.

There is a show that came on a while back about meth and it catching on in areas. It was called Meth: County in Crisis. It showed a county in Missouri that meth has hit it in epic proportions.
M, no, I could walk outside right now and I'm guaranteed to see at least one methed-out person without stepping to far onto the sidewalk. It's not that people aren't doing it, my point is just that the media is making a huge deal out of how somehow elementary-school kids are going to start doing this drug because there is a variety made to taste or look like strawberry candy. As has been said, some little kids already do, but there are some pretty serious problems going on with that child well before that started if they're that young.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by mybabyphx View Post
Ok, so I'm going to be completely honest here. I used to have a very bad addiction to Meth. I had a problem, my boyfriend did, my mom did back in the day, my dad did back in the day, some other family members and a lot of my friends. So I have truly experienced Meth first hand. Meth is very addicting. I did it one time, and I will admit I was addicted after that 1 time. I just needed more and more. I got too far into it, it took over me. I was doing whatever I could to get more... and that still wasn't enough. It got to the point where it wasn't even 'getting me high' anymore... so I had to get MORE to even feel anything from it. I don't even know how many times I've gotten high off of meth. I don't know how many days I've stayed awake high... It's very sad that I got that far into it.. I was the kid that didn't even know what it was until the day I did it! I had never heard of Meth before in my life, until that day. My mom and dad did it back in the day, they both quit and live better lives now. I however kept doing it with my boyfriend and our friends. I thought noone knew that I was on it, I was hiding it. My mom knew that I had a problem (this is when I lived in Iowa) and she called my dad (who lives in Arizona) and told him I needed to get out of that town. Now this town I'm talking about is NOT a big city, it's NOT hollywood, it's nothing special. It's not even on the map. It's a small town.... 'everyones doing it'. So 2 weeks after my mom called my dad, I moved to Arizona. To make a long story short, I live in Arizona now with my boyfriend (from Iowa) and our friend (from Iowa) We are all clean and don't do meth anymore. I haven't done it since June 2006 I have no plans on doing it, and won't even be friends with those people anymore. The only reason why I wrote all of this is so that way you guys can kind of 'understand' it's not easy... you think these people can just quit? No, it's not like that... once your doing it-- your doing it! You dont know you have a problem, you don't see it. I never did it because of Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, or any other famous person... It wasn't "cool" that they did it. I did it because it was fun. If there is ANYONE on TCS that needs to talk about Meth or any other drug addiction. Please PM me and I will help you through this as much as I can. I was there, I experienced this first hand.... I know what its like. I didn't even want to post this here on TCS for everyone to read about my personal life... but maybe, just maybe you will be able to understand what these kids are going through. Instead of putting them down for what they do, feel sorry for them that they can't stop. They are in too far at this point! As for this other 'new' stuff, I've never heard of it... but it will soon be everywhere...
Ain't that the truth - and you are to be admired for telling us all this. I don't think anyone here is putting kids down for using meth, just talking about what a dreadful problem it is.

I've had it - not on purpose. I was offered and said no - because of my bipolar disorder I stay away from drugs of all kinds - so my `friend' put some in my drink. I was up all night doing the craziest stuff, and then went into a three-week manic episode when I hadn't had one for eight years, and it ended up with me cutting up both my arms and having a little breakdown during which, luckily, Mum came over and found me. It is a repulsive, awful drug. It took me months to get over that - especially financially as I managed to spend $6,000 I didn't have in that three weeks.

It's endemic. In Australia it's the drug that has the most problems surrounding it and the most addicts - especially amongst the 18-25 year-old demographic. It scares the daylights out of me, and it's so highly addictive that I really feel for the kids (or anyone) who has a habit, because it can and does hook you the first time, and then you've got a long road ahead of you - and not always with a happy ending.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
.... my point is just that the media is making a huge deal out of how somehow elementary-school kids are going to start doing this drug because there is a variety made to taste or look like strawberry candy.
IMO it is a big deal. What purpose does it serve to color it pink? They're trying to get kids involved. We can't fight back if we don't know. I think the media is doing us a favor by warning kids and their parents, even if it persuades only ONE kid of the dangers.
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As has been said, some little kids already do, but there are some pretty serious problems going on with that child well before that started if they're that young.
I have to disagree. Lots of kids are easily influenced. That doesn't mean they have "pretty serious problems going on" although they could if they mess around with meth.
post #20 of 26
How young do you guys think these kids are that are doing meth and other drugs? In some of the posts here it seems like you think YOUNG kids are doing it...???
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by Rockcat View Post
IMO it is a big deal. What purpose does it serve to color it pink? They're trying to get kids involved. We can't fight back if we don't know. I think the media is doing us a favor by warning kids and their parents, even if it persuades only ONE kid of the dangers.
I have to disagree. Lots of kids are easily influenced. That doesn't mean they have "pretty serious problems going on" although they could if they mess around with meth.
8 year olds have SERIOUS problems if they are doing meth, for one thing, how are they going off alone and buying it? How is a kid who is able to steal a car to feed a meth addiction under proper parental care? He's not even old enough to be alone yet! Children that young doing any kind of drug, alcohol and tobacco included, probably have a seriously brutal childhood. They're in elementary school.

I agree with the article posted in the OP. It explains exactly why it may be all just sensationalism, including why it might be pink.

I agree that meth is horrible and a serious problem among adults and high-school teenagers. I do not agree with the hysteria about elementary school kids "trying" meth because its pink. You don't normally eat meth, you smoke it.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
8 year olds have SERIOUS problems if they are doing meth, for one thing, how are they going off alone and buying it? How is a kid who is able to steal a car to feed a meth addiction under proper parental care? He's not even old enough to be alone yet! Children that young doing any kind of drug, alcohol and tobacco included, probably have a seriously brutal childhood. They're in elementary school.
Ok sorry, I didn't pay close enough attention to your clause "some little kids already do". I thought you meant that any kid who tried it after being approached with the pink stuff (1st time) already had serious problems.

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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I do not agree with the hysteria about elementary school kids "trying" meth because its pink. You don't normally eat meth, you smoke it.
When I did it (years ago, of course) I snorted it.
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva!
I've had it - not on purpose. I was offered and said no - because of my bipolar disorder I stay away from drugs of all kinds - so my `friend' put some in my drink.
So a very real danger is someone spiking a drink with pink-looking/tasting meth - which could easily happen to an 8 year old!
post #23 of 26
8 years old! You've got to be kidding me! I honestly do not think anyone at this age is doing it! The only way they could be is if they had a friend that was older, MUCH older! But even still.... I don't think so!
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by mybabyphx View Post
8 years old! You've got to be kidding me! I honestly do not think anyone at this age is doing it! The only way they could be is if they had a friend that was older, MUCH older! But even still.... I don't think so!
I'm sure its unusual, but my point is that if it looks/tastes like strawberry Qwik kids younger than usual will be more likely to try it. Worse yet - it could be added to a drink without them knowing!
post #25 of 26
From the article "it's not clear that either coloring or flavoring is being added for the express purpose of making the drug appeal to children. it seems more likely that such factors, if present, are manufacturing errors, attempts at creating superficial brand distinctions, or simply ways of trying to combat the drug's bitter taste"

I found a site that explains all the different possible colors that happen due to different chemicals being in the meth, but I don't think I should link to it because it's very pro-drug. Purple, brown, green, etc are not a new thing.

As for adding it to a drink without them knowing-- they already could do that. It happens all the time (not meth and children- stuff beng added to drinks). But when it does, you don't know what it is, so why would a dealer do that? He's not going to get a new customer from that. Most drug dealers won't do anything with little kids, in part because even criminals have limits and in part because the penalties are stiffer and you're more likely to get busted.
post #26 of 26
I read of a girl starting meth at age 11. Meth is one thing I have never done so I do not have personal experience there. But I did start smoking regular nicotine cigarettes buy age 11-12. I was drinking and smoking pot by age 13. Around age 15 I started smoking joints and using pipes for smoking laced with cocaine and crack. By age 16 I was doing all the above regularly along with popping any pills I could get. By age 18 I was doing all that everyday all day. I did all this right under my parents noses and neither of them knew what I was doing. I was 18 1/2 when I sold all possesions I had and hoped a bus to florida telling no one where I was going. I did that to get away from this rural area and get away from my habits. Luckly I met my now husband soon after I got to Florida and he helped me get clean and stay clean.

And no I did not have some horrible childhood. The worst thing that happened to me was my parents divorced when I was 8. No that was not why I did all I did. I did it because I wanted to. I saw others doing it and just did it myself.
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