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post #61 of 73
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Originally Posted by SalemWitchChild View Post
We use to know some people who practiced that. I must admit they freaked me out because they always talked about Chicken sacrifices. I don't know if that was just them being weird or if that's a practice common.
Its a fairly comon practice but is done in a completely serious mannor. I had a major problem with it at first but after discussing it wih the Santos I learned that up untill the actual sacrifice the chicken is worshiped. The only person in the religion who can perform the sacrifice is the Santos. It is done for various reasons. It is the largest honor to bestow. It takes weeks to do, Everyday is special for the chicken. Once the ceramony is over evryone involves eats the meat and uses every part of the chicken. It is very primal and natural.

My DH and I have not had to utalize it yet, it can be a very costly endever but if the need arises I will do it.
post #62 of 73
The ancient Hebrews and the Jews made animal sacrifices to God. I have read about it in the Old Testament.

Jesus is the Lamb of God and he sacrificed himself for us. Now there is no more need for animal sacrifices. I'm so glad. The Son of God sacrificed himself for me and everyone. How humbling and awesome that is.
post #63 of 73
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Originally Posted by KarmasMom View Post
Its a fairly comon practice but is done in a completely serious mannor. I had a major problem with it at first but after discussing it wih the Santos I learned that up untill the actual sacrifice the chicken is worshiped. The only person in the religion who can perform the sacrifice is the Santos. It is done for various reasons. It is the largest honor to bestow. It takes weeks to do, Everyday is special for the chicken. Once the ceramony is over evryone involves eats the meat and uses every part of the chicken. It is very primal and natural.

My DH and I have not had to utalize it yet, it can be a very costly endever but if the need arises I will do it.
just out of curiosity, in what circumstances is the sacrifice needed?

I didn't realize that animal sacrifice was still practiced by some religions. But it seems to make sense to worship or somehow pay homage to the animals we kill for their meat.

still, personally, I'll stick with vegetarianism.
post #64 of 73
Christian.
Since I was a baby!
post #65 of 73
I was baptised Roman Catholic, but my family was not particularly religious. My mother was a Catholic but she didn't regularly attend church, and my father was prodestant but bordered more to athiest really.

When I was about 9 or so a friend of mine and I took it upon ourselves to attend the local Anglican Church at the end of our street. Because we were children we weren't allowed upstairs for the service and were resigned to the basement for Sunday School. We went for quite a long time...maybe a year. Our parent's didn't push us to go, we initiated it ourselves.

When I was in my late teens I went to another Anglican Church with a friend of mine. I was in their church choir. Eventually I stopped going.

Some years later when I was in my very early 20's I was involved with a guy whose family was very religious (Pentacostle) but they attended a Mormon church. He wasn't particularly religious and was actually the rebel/blacksheep of his family. But because we spent considerable time with his family and they had in home prayer services, and grace before all meals and attended church several times per week, I found myself also attending and participating. When we broke up I stopped going to their church.

Many years later (late 20's and to about mid 30's), my best friend got me into going to her church. It was a non-denominational church but most who attended were Pentacostle. I didn't go every week, but often enough that people knew me there. She moved about 6 years ago and once again I stopped going to church mainly because I don't drive and it takes so long by bus.

Anyway, as an adult I can't really say that I was ever comfortable inside a church. I am a concrete scientific thinker and unless something is tangible and measurable on a physical level, I have a hard time subscribing to it.

Despite Darwin's theory being flawed in many ways, I still tend to subscribe to that rather than pure faith.

I believe in Jesus. But I believe he was just a Holy Man, not a devine being from a virgin birth whose father was a "Entity."

I read "The Da Vinci Code" and can say that the "Sacred Feminine" makes more sense to me on a tangible level and if there were a church dedicated to that theory, I would probably be more inclined to attend because I would be worshing a man and his ideas, not an "enigma".

That being said, while I am not particularly religious and have a hard time believing in the "God created everything" idea, I haven't completely denounced it either. Part of me "wants" to believe, but the logical part of me just can't get beyond the "who created God?" question, which is why Jesus as a "normal" Holy Man who headed up a church some 2000 years ago and was crucified for spreading his gospel, makes more sense to me than a devine being that came back from the dead.
post #66 of 73
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post

That being said, while I am not particularly religious and have a hard time believing in the "God created everything" idea, I haven't completely denounced it either. Part of me "wants" to believe, but the logical part of me just can't get beyond the "who created God?" question, which is why Jesus as a "normal" Holy Man who headed up a church some 2000 years ago and was crucified for spreading his gospel, makes more sense to me than a devine being that came back from the dead.
I have to agree with you here. I'm also very, very curious as to where Cain and Abel found wives. Were their wives their sisters?
post #67 of 73
I have always wondered about Cain and Abel, and how there were wives for them.

I come from a Jewish background, but I do not practice. I tend to be more of a combination of Buddist and Pagan in my belief's. Although I still believe in God. I'm just not a hundred percent if I really understand Him or Her.
post #68 of 73
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I have always wondered about Cain and Abel, and how there were wives for them.
Same here. I'm not knocking Christianity or the Bible, but I don't understand how some people can believe it literally, that they believe that everything in it actually happened. (For example, the whole flood thing and Noah putting two of each animal on the ark. Two just isn't enough to be genetically viable. Same as the whole Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, etc ... You just can't sleep with your family members and expect it to work out well in the end. Ummm, from a genetics standpoint, I mean.)

I do not mean to bash anyone's faith, and I appreciate that your faith in a higher power allows you to accept this stuff as what really happened, and that god (or whomever) is just powerful enough to allow things like this to work properly (without having to worry about the whole "genetics" thing). I just find it difficult to wrap my own mind around the idea of it, and a part of me is envious of people whose faith is so strong that it enables them to believe in things I, personally, find somewhat preposterous. My faith isn't nearly that strong or resolute.
post #69 of 73
Can i just randomly jump in and say, i hope not everyone thinks us witches brew poison or sacrifice babies or wear pointy hats (only during samhain ) or worship satan (the ones who do are not following the true path)? thanks


proceed to talk :P
post #70 of 73
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Originally Posted by Dragoriana View Post
Can i just randomly jump in and say, i hope not everyone thinks us witches brew poison or sacrifice babies or wear pointy hats (only during samhain ) or worship satan (the ones who do are not following the true path)? thanks


proceed to talk :P
awww I loves the witches! Haven't known one yet who actualy wears the hat
post #71 of 73
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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
just out of curiosity, in what circumstances is the sacrifice needed?

I didn't realize that animal sacrifice was still practiced by some religions. But it seems to make sense to worship or somehow pay homage to the animals we kill for their meat.

still, personally, I'll stick with vegetarianism.
Well, firstly, I would probably consider myself a Humanitarian Universalist.
I don't believe in a higher power defined in the Christian sense.
I believe in the collective power of humankind and a serious homage to the Earth which gives us continual life and progress...
(But I also don't attend service or belong to a church).

However, I don't really see anything wrong with the "sacrifice" of chickens as described by a previous poster....Hey, I bet ALL the chickens all of us eat would love to be treated to a chicken worshipping before roasting them in the oven.
post #72 of 73
Wasn't raised in religion. However, I was raised with lots of values and principals that were closely related to Christian religion. My parents had high expectations, but I can't remember ever attending church.
I went on my own the summer of ninth grade to a Christian church and got very plugged in there. I stayed there through high school, got baptized. But I noticed something that bugged me, although it was quite a liberal church it tended to be sexist. I hated that.
God the FATHER, and his SON Jesus, sacrificing a SON. Women weren't really valued in that church, one the face of it they were, but not really. I think I stuck around due to the activities and all the stuff to do, but I didn't fully subscribe to all the teachings that didn’t agree with my common sense, intrinsic spirituality, and value as a human being and a woman. I did like the teachings about the Holy Spirit though very much. I liken it to divine energy, a powerful energy. I do believe in spirits and ghosts and angels. I do believe in Saints. I also believe in good and evil.

In college I quit going, by then it was getting annoying to me (the sexism) and so I tried other churches and took some religion courses. I found I liked the Muslim word Allah, which means neither man nor woman to describe God. That goes along more with my train of thoughts on God. I have a Native American background and began to research that more and liked what I discovered. I also agree with many parts of Buddhism. New Age religions are really up my alley, the cosmos, and all of that. I love learning about Shaman and human energy. I love learning about other cultures and their religions or lack of specific religion.

I have a very open mind to all things spiritual and I consider myself very spiritual, but not that religious per say. I give back a lot and strongly believe in Karma. I believe more so in what comes around goes around rather than an eye for an eye (as Gandhi said that tends to make the whole world blind)
post #73 of 73
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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
I didn't realize that animal sacrifice was still practiced by some religions. But it seems to make sense to worship or somehow pay homage to the animals we kill for their meat.
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I don't eat much meat either but it does make sense to me. I am just glad we are talking animals here, I know the Aztecs and some others sacrificed people. ( That does not at all sit well with me)
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