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The `One For The Other Side' Challenge

post #1 of 20
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Ok. So, we spend a lot of time here arguing about the politicians we despise, nine times out of ten being the politicians who are not of our own political persuasion.

So I'm interested. Who, on `the other side' would you compliment? Who would you give a fair rap to? Who would you concede is a pretty decent person?

A Republican I truly like, admire and respect is Arnold Schwarzenegger. Laugh if you will, but I think he has done some very, very good work. I only think it's a shame he can't run for President. I think he'd do a fine job.

Who (on the other side) would you not choke over saying something positive about?
post #2 of 20
I really hope my Mom isn't on the internet today because she'd shoot me for this. I really like Barry Goldwater:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...oldwater30.htm

I think that he was the key to many of the good Republican ideals that exist with in the party, and if it wasn't for him Regan wouldn't have been elected.

Laugh if you must, but I really respected this man's ideas.

EDIT: Do they have to be alive? Goldwater died a few years ago!
post #3 of 20
Lieberman. The Dems tried to get rid of him but he ran as an Independent as won, good for him. He is the best moderate Democrat there is IMO. And he doesn't bow down to the FAR left whacko's
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Lieberman. The Dems tried to get rid of him but he ran as an Independent as won, good for him. He is the best moderate Democrat there is IMO. And he doesn't bow down to the FAR left whacko's
Gotta agree with you on that one.

The first one I thought of was Ben Nighthorse Campbell, now retired from politics (unfortunately). Of course, he did end up switching over to the Republican party because he got so sick of the games the Democrat party was playing (mainly trying to bully anyone elected to Congress into towing the party line, regardless of how they or their constituents felt). But the thing is, his politics did NOT change when he changed parties. He was a moderate, carried out the will of the people who voted for him, and didn't care what the party line was (regardless of party). That kind of integrity is now unheard of in Washington, and was incredibly rare when he was first elected and diminished through the years. I was always proud to have him representing me in Congress.
post #5 of 20
US politics is a very murky pool for me....I really should be better informed as a near and dear neighbour to the north....
post #6 of 20
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US politics is a very murky pool for me....I really should be better informed as a near and dear neighbour to the north....
Ditto. For Canadian politicians, though, one thing I can say: even the ones I don't support know how to laugh at themselves! (For proof, see such TV shows as This Hour Has 22 Minutes, Royal Canadian Air Farce, The Rick Mercer Report, and Corner Gas.) I may not agree with Stephen Harper or Mike Harris, but I think better of them for being gracious about being the butt of jokes.

Actually, that does make me think of one American politician: I was watching a Saturday Night Live retrospective the other day, and George Bush (Sr.) was on it, poking fun at himself and at Dana Carvey. Maybe I place too much value upon humour, but I find myself thinking Anyone who can laugh at themselves can't be all bad.
post #7 of 20
I loved Mike Dewine. I voted for Mike Dewine up until this election. He's a hard-line conservative, but far from extremist, and he's actually rational and isn't a zealot. I had lunch with him once. Voinovich was okay too.

(He's a senator from Ohio, and the fact that he got voted out was astonishing to everybody almost. Everybody liked him. Honestly, he was punished for what his party did to Ohio-- looking at you, Taft)

But after the support of a gay marriage ban in the constitution of this state, and the outspokenly pro-life stance... I just couldn't bring myself to vote for him, especially when if he had won it might have meant that the Dems wouldn't have a majority in the Senate.

I don't mind John McCain if he would go back to doing what he actually wants instead of trying to pacify the extremists who IMO nobody should listen to. I don't expect the Democrats to try and make me happy so why are the Republicans fawning over the extremists on their side?

Lieberman isn't a democrat.
post #8 of 20
Well I too like Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as Guilliani, and I also have good feelings fo McCain.
post #9 of 20
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A Republican I truly like, admire and respect is Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I'll ditto that. I have to say, I was not happy when he was elected, and he started off with some pretty bad moves. However, he does listen to his constituents. He's figuring out what it is that California's go for, and he's been pushing for that rather than only his own agenda. I wonder if maybe he's free to do that because he can't be elected any higher. He doesn't need to make the rest of the country happy; he's free to focus on California only without "sullying" his reputation for the rest of the country. If I was still in Cali, I'd relect him.

I think McCain is decent. I strongly disagree with him on many issues. However, I don't think he will push his beliefs on others. I think he can be trusted to at least be fair.

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US politics is a very murky pool for me....I really should be better informed as a near and dear neighbour to the north...
Aww, don't feel bad. Most of us have no idea what's going on up there either. The only thing any of us know is that we now need a passport to visit. I liked the days when we drove over and the only thing they asked was if we had any fruits or vegetables.
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Ditto. For Canadian politicians, though, one thing I can say: even the ones I don't support know how to laugh at themselves! (For proof, see such TV shows as This Hour Has 22 Minutes, Royal Canadian Air Farce, The Rick Mercer Report, and Corner Gas.) I may not agree with Stephen Harper or Mike Harris, but I think better of them for being gracious about being the butt of jokes.

Actually, that does make me think of one American politician: I was watching a Saturday Night Live retrospective the other day, and George Bush (Sr.) was on it, poking fun at himself and at Dana Carvey. Maybe I place too much value upon humour, but I find myself thinking Anyone who can laugh at themselves can't be all bad.

I think all politicians need to go on the Mercer Report and 22 minutes - they are awesome!
post #11 of 20
Who said there were only two sides?

If I were American, I'd be voting for a third party. Probably green. But mainly, I'm opposed to the idea of a two-party system.

This said, I don't know enough about individuals from "opposing sides" to find one I like.
Hmmm... in Canadian politics, I didn't vote for the Bloc Quebecois, but I always liked Gilles Duceppe's comments on child poverty, saying that if you want to help the children, you have to help the parents too. (yeah, why is poverty only bad if it applies to children, really?) In general, Quebec separatists often have good points about social services, education, health and the environment.

So there. does that count?
(keep in mind that here in Quebec, political debate usually is more about sovereignist vs. federalist rather than left-right)
post #12 of 20
I'm OK with Arnie, but remember, he married a Kennedy!!
post #13 of 20
Rudy Guilliani. He sure came through as mayor with the 9/11 attacks. He handled it with grace, and the people of NYC and the US as a whole will forever be grateful for that. I also like he's moderate on a lot of issues.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
Who said there were only two sides?
I'm glad you said this, because obviously there aren't. But my question was mostly to the American members here because really, at the moment in the current world climate, who becomes the next US President has an absolutely huge bearing on us all, whether we live there or not. And I guess with my ideology I would be considered a Democrat in the US, which is why I said Arnie. Although I'll agree with others here that I like Rudi, too.

I have consistently bypassed totally the two major parties of Labor and Liberal in my country's most recent federal elections. I've been careful to NOT give my vote to any party that forms part of the Liberal coalition, too.
post #15 of 20
There are only two sides in American politics. That's just how it is. There are third parties, but voting for them usually defeats the prupose.

Looking at you Ralph Nader, you traitor.
post #16 of 20
Guilliani, McCain,since i am in the middle, dont really have a side, also, Nighthorse(who i dont think is around anymore, and liberman(spelling).
i think the guy from Min i liked also, but i cant remember his name.
post #17 of 20
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Rudy Guilliani. He sure came through as mayor with the 9/11 attacks. He handled it with grace, and the people of NYC and the US as a whole will forever be grateful for that. I also like he's moderate on a lot of issues.
I'm a "lapsed Republican", i.e., I've re-registered as a Democrat, and more often than not have voted outside party lines, but I probably could have voted for McCain in the 2000 elections if he'd been the Republican candidate instead of Bush. Right now, though, Giuliani and his moderate views are more attractive. I don't like McCain's hard stance on Iraq.

However, if Gore were persuaded to run again, I'd vote for him, as I'm sick of the direction the G.O.P. has taken over the past three decades.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
Who said there were only two sides?

If I were American, I'd be voting for a third party. Probably green. But mainly, I'm opposed to the idea of a two-party system.
Unfortunately, when it comes down to it, in this country there is only two sides , the government and the people.......
post #19 of 20
Republican presidential candidate Represenative Ron Paul from Texas. For sticking to his convictions no matter how popular or unpopular they may be. For going against the party line if he does not agree with it with no apology and with sound reasoning.

Tricia
post #20 of 20
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Republican presidential candidate Represenative Ron Paul from Texas. For sticking to his convictions no matter how popular or unpopular they may be. For going against the party line if he does not agree with it with no apology and with sound reasoning.

Tricia
I'm a huge fan of Ron Paul. He brings out the good in the Republican Party. I wouldn't be upset if he got elected.
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