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4 Women Fired for Gossiping at Work

post #1 of 27
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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3199506

What do you think about this story?
post #2 of 27
It was on their lunch-hour which seems a bit mean but my heart also goes out to the person they were gossiping about who could have seen their marriage ruined
post #3 of 27
well, good bye, dont let the door hit you on the way out. I cant stand people who gossip and make up stuff.
post #4 of 27
I wish they would do something like this for the gossips at work but there won't be anyone left at work after this!
post #5 of 27
I am glad someone is taking office gossip seriously. I have been around some groups of gossips at work that are really vindictive and vicious. What I have always found amazing is that people within these groups will also gossip about each other. I have always tried to stay clear of groups like that at least as much as I can in a work environment. Of course they still either find something or makeup something to say about me. I think people like that have some kind of emotional problem.
post #6 of 27
My thoughts? Sucked in. Obviously there was more to it than a bit of idle gossip in the lunch room. People need to learn that just because they're in the `in crowd' where they work, that it can be absolute hell for the people they are gossiping about and alienating. Good precedent - hopefully they will learn their lessons from this.
post #7 of 27
The article does say that they were fired "in part" due to the gossiping, so I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. I don't like malicious gossip but if you're going to fire 1 (or 4) for it you need to fire all. It doesn't say that these 4 women started the rumours, just that they were discussing them during their lunch break. And I deny anyone to say they've never talked about a work colleague behind their back, especially if rumours had reached them. It's human nature to gossip and everyone does it.
post #8 of 27
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Originally Posted by urbantigers View Post
The article does say that they were fired "in part" due to the gossiping, so I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. I don't like malicious gossip but if you're going to fire 1 (or 4) for it you need to fire all. It doesn't say that these 4 women started the rumours, just that they were discussing them during their lunch break. And I deny anyone to say they've never talked about a work colleague behind their back, especially if rumours had reached them. It's human nature to gossip and everyone does it.
i do agree there may be more to it. However i disagree that everyone talks behind people back. I never say anything that i wont say to someone face.
also, i dont do the soical thing at work, I really dont care what my co workers do. for all i care they can date goats on there free time. Just so they do there jobs. I dont know even know which people here are married or single etc. nor do i want to know.
post #9 of 27
Good, i'm pleased they were sacked, lunch break or not. Weve got a few where i work and "sometimes" the men are the worst ones because theres only 4 women here, but the thing is with gossips it can start off with something small, then it gets passed onto the next person with an extra line added, then that get's passed on and another extra line is added, and before you know it the poor person who's being talked about is ready to be hung, drawn and quartered. My office manager is the worst woman i know for changing a story and she's had to be put right so many times.

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I never say anything that i wont say to someone face.
I'm with you on that one Bruce, if theres one thing i'm known for it's not sitting on the fence when anything has to be said.

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also, i dont do the soical thing at work, I really dont care what my co workers do.
Again i'm on your bandwagon here because i used to socialise with them outside of work, but mixing business with pleasure just didn't work. The only time we all get together is at christmas, and that's because my Directors hires a room with an open bar and buffet for us.
post #10 of 27
My coworker in my new job (when I first started) made my life such misery that I almost left after six weeks. She was very close to the woman from whom I'd taken over, and she resented me a great deal. The woman before me had left of her own accord - her husband had started a business - but still I was blamed and I was made miserable. Literally. I lost four kilograms, my hair started falling out - it was awful. Plus I knew she was gossiping about me and making things up and I work in a big group now. Before that I'd worked with only a couple of other people for five years and we were all very close.

Anyway, I just plugged away and didn't say anything to anyone, or talk about it to anyone. I did ask her what I had done to upset her, and she answered with `Nothing. You're very capable. I just don't like you'. Nice! Finally it got to be so bad that I decided to have a chat with my new boss about it. We got together one morning and he asked me how I was going. I just burst into tears and couldn't speak at all.

He told me straight out that her behaviour had been `abominable' and that the night before she had offered him an ultimatum. Either I went, or she did. So he told her he'd be sorry to see her go. He felt he wasn't going to be bullied by anyone, and that despite the fact I'd been there six weeks and she'd been there three years he chose me. She didn't expect that at all, and was so furious that the following day I came in and she abused me to my face all morning. I'd had it by that stage, so I told him what she'd said, and he took her aside, told her to get a grip, grow up, and stop or she'd be fired.

It was incredible to have his support like that and I have been grateful to him ever since. The lady who replaced her is lovely and after this woman had left everyone in the whole group told me they knew what had been going on and said they were very impressed that I hadn't said a thing, and that I could hold my head high. I organised a really nice going away gift and drinks for her and I have to say that it's the first experience I've ever had with that kind of treatment and it made me feel just wretched. She lost her job over it, too, and deservedly so. There is no need to be highschool bitchy in the workplace - especially as she was 62!!!
post #11 of 27
Sarah she sounds to have been a treat to work with! What people have to remember is on average we spend most of our time with our co workers than we do our partners and family, so it's important we can get along

Believe it or not a situation has just happend here at work. One minute my Director was on his mobile to a client in the next office to me, the next he's flying past my reception window with one of the metalworkers and the pair of them are arguing outside, and it's all down to his manager adding a bit extra on to what my Director spoke to him about when he never said it at all.

I swear some people get a kick out of doing things like this just to see some action
post #12 of 27
You're right - they really do. I mean, as I said, this woman and my predecessor were 62 and 40-something respectively! I thought I left highschool 20 years ago but I guess not. And it was really, really awful. I woke up every day just dreading work - and I found out later as well, that people had been wanting to talk to me about it but apparently I looked so miserable all the time that nobody wanted me to cry!

They shot themselves in the foot, anyway. My boss was so angry and appalled at them, and so happy with how I'd handled it and picked everything up so quickly anyway, that after three months he gave me a 20% pay rise which took me from $20 to $25 per hour or an extra $10,000 per year. Now that was VERY satisfying!
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
this woman and my predecessor were 62 and 40-something
What i've found in the 32 years that i've worked here is that some of the managers of departments are what we call "Old school", where they don't like changes and don't think that a younger person can do the job as well as they could when they were that age, so instead of encouraging them or taking the time that they should to show them where their going wrong, they just put them down everytime and it really annoys me

I'm 48 and i like to mix in with the younger generation because that's how i learn they way they think these days
post #14 of 27
We're good to get drunk with at Friday drinks, too.
post #15 of 27
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We're good to get drunk with at Friday drinks, too.
Yeah i remember when we used to do that as well!
post #16 of 27
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The article does say that they were fired "in part" due to the gossiping, so I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye.
I agree with this 100%. There's more to the story that meets the eye.

Idle gossip is one thing (i.e. about TV and such), but I've worked with so many people that were in a position of trust that told me about my coworkers that it was disgusting. I had an office manager/HR coworker that couldn't keep anything confidential. She would blab about anyone who came into her office. she would gossip about the district manager's divorce, the sales girls that were always in either the general manager's office or the DM.

Yes, she and i were friends at the time, but still friendship does have its line drawn and there's just somethings I don't want to know.
post #17 of 27
Wonderful! It is about time someone set a precedent about stuff like this. I work in a hothouse of gossip, and because of it, nothing is taken too seriously, even when it should be.
post #18 of 27
If everyone who gossips at work gets fired, then there would be more people unemployed then employed. There are 5 women at my work who spend a good portion of their day gossiping, chatting, talking about shopping (at least 3 hours of the work day - I know - they sit next to me - that's all I hear). Malicious gossip should be stopped by management if they hear it, but I don't know if firing is the answer. Reprimands, suspensions, etc should be considered 1st IMO. Policy should be verbal warning, written warning, suspension, fired.
post #19 of 27
Heck its not just women! Where I work it's predominantly male and holy cow, some of these guys are THE WORST for gossiping.

One guy in our office is the "I have to know everything" guy. Somehow he weezels himself into all the meetings, gets all the dirt on other people and he spends all of his time in his office just gossiping with other people. But then he complains about having to work on the weekends
Somedays I just want to say "Dude, just shut your trap and then you won't have to work weekends!!!"
post #20 of 27
Thread Starter 
IMO there is a difference between chatting and gossiping. Kim and I chat about our cats and their antics, about the news, even about politics, almost daily. We don't chat for hours or anything, but we do chat. We don't talk about people in the office, really, unless it has to do with office business (i.e. so-and-so put in their 2-weeks notice, we're hiring so-and-so on this date so set up x-y-z, stuff like that). Neither of us are gossips and prefer it that way. There are plenty of other things to talk about with co-workers besides talking about someone else in the office.
post #21 of 27
adymarie had a very good point about if everyone who gossiped was fired there would be few people working.
The line should be drawn between malicious, hurtful, damaging gossip and having a conversation that includes someone's name. That sounds pretty difficult to do, but I think it can be done.
post #22 of 27
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Malicious gossip should be stopped by management if they hear it, but I don't know if firing is the answer. Reprimands, suspensions, etc should be considered 1st IMO. Policy should be verbal warning, written warning, suspension, fired.
When someone reputation is left in tatters due to malicious gossiping, I really think firing is the only way. Especially when society seems to very much have the attitude of "there no smoke without a fire"...

If you work in a small field stuff like that can totally affect your career, and follow from job to job.
post #23 of 27
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I am glad someone is taking office gossip seriously. I have been around some groups of gossips at work that are really vindictive and vicious. What I have always found amazing is that people within these groups will also gossip about each other. I have always tried to stay clear of groups like that at least as much as I can in a work environment. Of course they still either find something or makeup something to say about me. I think people like that have some kind of emotional problem.
I agree.

It's also classic that when confronted with their gossiping that they don't feel it's gossip and that what they said was "just in passing" like these 4 women tried to claim.

I suppose some would consider this discussion to be "gossip" seeing that we are talking about the people behind their backs. I guess in a way it is.
post #24 of 27
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I am glad someone is taking office gossip seriously. I have been around some groups of gossips at work that are really vindictive and vicious. What I have always found amazing is that people within these groups will also gossip about each other. I have always tried to stay clear of groups like that at least as much as I can in a work environment. Of course they still either find something or makeup something to say about me. I think people like that have some kind of emotional problem.
I couldn't agree more. When you have a supervisor doing it (our department, I work in a lab, it's one big lab, but broken down in departments, so generally, everyone knows everyone) and another coworker in a common breakroom, and other colleagues from other departments hear it all the time and tell someone in our department they are tired of hearing it, how does that make them look? I try to never talk bad about anyone because 1) I hate it when people do it to me, 2) it looks bad, 3) what does that tell me about you? and 4) if you don't have anything better to do than to gossip than you really have nothing good to say about yourself.
post #25 of 27
When I graduated from high school I thought that would be the last of all the gossip and drama. Oh my word was I wrong!!! Our work has a lot of gossip and drama going on every day. In fact I'm in the middle of some of it now. It's so stressfull knowing that someone could and probably will back stab you the second they have a chance to look better to the boss. Luckily my problem was expressing an opinion about the court system, nothing major, but that was/is the gossip at work. How little old me stirred up some trouble for having an opinion.......



I'm not so sure I agree with them getting fired over talking while on break. Breaks are NOT on work hours so I don't know where the employer got off saying it was work time. There has to be something more to the story, and I'm sure the women are getting unemployment money. Whatever happened to our Free Speech laws? It seems like they convienently get overlooked at times.
post #26 of 27
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well, good bye, dont let the door hit you on the way out. I cant stand people who gossip and make up stuff.
Amen, my feelings exactly.
post #27 of 27
Hahaha Karma is sweet!!!! I hate the little back stabbers and Rats at my work!!!... Another one bites the dust!!!
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