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post #1 of 13
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They say the person behind this video is a 15 year old girl. Bring a Kleenix


http://www.youtube.com/v/ervaMPt4Ha0&autoplay=1
post #2 of 13
Couldn't get it to open. I'll have to check back later.
post #3 of 13
That's great - very well done, and touching.
post #4 of 13
I couldn't get past the funeral part. That's when I began welling up :weep:

A friend of mine's husband is currently over there right now. Luckily his tour is over in June (his was only 1 year). She's been going crazy without him. When he came back over Christmas she barely left his side.
post #5 of 13
That was very touching.

But I must say, I hate the assumption some would make that because I (and other people) are against the war, we hate the troops. There is nothing I want more than to see all these people return to their families alive and well.

I would be proud of them for fighting for freedom if that was really what was going on. Instead, I am ashamed of the U.S. government for starting this war under false pretenses and causing such pain among the family of soldiers who never came home.
post #6 of 13
I'm emailing this to my husband. He just left for his fouth deployment (third to Iraq) a few weeks ago. He just got to his base and emailed me yesterday. I just hope the internet is good enough for him to be able to watch. This is the sort of thing that helps keep him going. Thanks for posting this.
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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
That was very touching.

But I must say, I hate the assumption some would make that because I (and other people) are against the war, we hate the troops. There is nothing I want more than to see all these people return to their families alive and well.

I would be proud of them for fighting for freedom if that was really what was going on. Instead, I am ashamed of the U.S. government for starting this war under false pretenses and causing such pain among the family of soldiers who never came home.
Why assume that the clip only refers to Iraq? Plenty of our (including allies') troops are in Afghanistan, and elsewhere, and I don't imagine too many people believe the invasion of Afghanistan was unjustified. Service personnel can't choose to be sent to Afghanistan rather than Iraq.
post #8 of 13
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Why assume that the clip only refers to Iraq? Plenty of our (including allies') troops are in Afghanistan, and elsewhere, and I don't imagine too many people believe the invasion of Afghanistan was unjustified. Service personnel can't choose to be sent to Afghanistan rather than Iraq.
That is true. I tended to assume that it was about Iraq, but it could be about any war or military mission. I have to admit I don't know enough about the mission in Afghanistan to make a judgement either way.
I do support the troops, wherever they are (and whichever country they came from) but what I was complaining about is the assumption many people would make that in order to support the troop, you have to support the mission they are on. That, to me, has nothing to do with supporting the troops but with supporting the government. And in a democracy, I don't think anyone has to support whatever the government does. Supporting the troops and supporting a war are two different issues.

Then again, I guess I wasn't addressing the video directly, but rather the reaction I anticipated from people to the video. Hopefully my assumptions were wrong.
Sorry if I was off-topic a bit.
post #9 of 13
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That is true. I tended to assume that it was about Iraq, but it could be about any war or military mission. I have to admit I don't know enough about the mission in Afghanistan to make a judgement either way.
I do support the troops, wherever they are (and whichever country they came from) but what I was complaining about is the assumption many people would make that in order to support the troop, you have to support the mission they are on. That, to me, has nothing to do with supporting the troops but with supporting the government. And in a democracy, I don't think anyone has to support whatever the government does. Supporting the troops and supporting a war are two different issues.

Then again, I guess I wasn't addressing the video directly, but rather the reaction I anticipated from people to the video. Hopefully my assumptions were wrong.
Sorry if I was off-topic a bit.
Basically, the U.S. invaded Afghanistan after 9-11 to get rid of the Taliban, who were in control of the country and allowing al Queda/Qaida, bin Laden's "base", to operate from their soil. Therefore, I believe operations in Afghanistan are justified, but thus far rather ineffective, because too many troops have been diverted to Iraq, and I personally consider that military action pure folly. Since the armed forces have to follow the administration's orders, they are in no way "to blame" for the mess in Iraq. I agree with you:
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Supporting the troops and supporting a war are two different issues.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Basically, the U.S. invaded Afghanistan after 9-11 to get rid of the Taliban, who were in control of the country and allowing al Queda/Qaida, bin Laden's "base", to operate from their soil. Therefore, I believe operations in Afghanistan are justified, but thus far rather ineffective, because too many troops have been diverted to Iraq, and I personally consider that military action pure folly.
I did know that much... I just haven't made a decision regarding whether it is justified because of issues with the alternative to the Taliban and the mission's questionable effectiveness regarding Al Qaida. I also tend to doubt the American's government overtly stated goals in general. But as I said, I don't know enough about this case to judge really. I'll need to read up on it.
But I guess I'm just way off topic now. Sorry.

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Since the armed forces have to follow the administration's orders, they are in no way "to blame" for the mess in Iraq.
I agree.
At the same time, I admire troops who decide to be conscientious objectors or refuse to fight when they believe it is not ethically justified, sometimes at great personal risk.
post #11 of 13
That had me in tears, especially the funeral photos. The grief on the faces of all those affected really hit me hard.
post #12 of 13
Wow. That was incredibly touching-
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
Then again, I guess I wasn't addressing the video directly, but rather the reaction I anticipated from people to the video. Hopefully my assumptions were wrong. Sorry if I was off-topic a bit.
That's kind of the reaction the video is designed to elicit, I don't think you were off-base at all. The underlying theme of the person who designed it is to guilt you into the idea that supporting the troops means supporting the war.

Aside from the text and it's subtle-unless-you're-the-target message, it was very touching and it was hard to watch, kept wondering if I would see someone I know. All 3,697 people killed in Iraq, 25,000+ wounded, 575 killed in Afghanistan, 1,200+ wounded, and everyone everywhere else in the world weigh heavily on my heart always. Am I not doing enough to help keep them safe? Is there anything I could do that would bring them home from a war that is overstretching them and our resources, putting them in harm's way unnecessarily?
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