Don't mitted Ragdolls have white feet? That's why they're always being confused with Birmans, though there are differences, like that white chin cutie pie Smudge is missing. that would make him a pointed Ragdoll, right?Originally Posted by kluchetta
Is his thick fur all over or just on his bib and britches?Ragdolls have bunny fur (very soft, medium length) over most of them except their bib, britches, and tail. If you search on ragdolls, there are three patterns - pointed, mitted, and bi-color. If he is a ragdoll, he is probably a pointed (or mitted.)
Do you have any other photos?
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What is he?
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You're right! Mitted ragdolls have white feet. And white chins. So Smudge is a seal mitted ragdoll, but his chin is not white. And there's some white that "drips" down the back of his legs like he was dipped in sugar!
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There are legitimate breeders that are preserving the Doll Faced Persian, just like breeders who have old style Siamese.Originally Posted by white cat lover
The HS here just had a "purebred" Persian that didn't have the flat face!!!People were breeding them....
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ditto
I love doll faced persians
Actually he looks a lot like my Mom's cat Ten. Ten is a a siamese/ragdoll cross. Another example of byb breeding. Some local purposely took a purebred Siamese Tom and bred him to a purebred Ragdoll queen. Then gave the babies away because they couldn't find homes
I just don't get that.
I will try to post a photo of Ten tomorrow.
I will try to post a photo of Ten tomorrow.
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He's 15lbs and 8yrs old. Anytime I brush him or pet him he rolls over like this
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I think he looks like he is mixed with a himalayan but is not purebred. If people ask I would say he is a seal point domestic longhair.
IMO its a Himi/Siamese cross. Probably the siamese was carrying the longhair gene. I don't think I've seen a himi with that pointed of a face. Its not Ragdoll tho
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WOW A couple of them look identical to him!
Your boy is a beautiful cat, so IMO who cares what he is? You love him just as he is...
Someone earlier said that "poor quality" usually means "pet quality" - since you want Tonka for a pet, just love that sweet tempered, beautiful boy to pieces!
And please post more photos!!!
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Usually shelters will put breed mix or call it a domestic, even if it looks to be purebred. It is because people look to get pure breds and with out having papers there is no proof it is truely pure bred.Originally Posted by Bella713
He looks like a Himalayan to me, I have had 3 of them...He looks like Sophia except much bigger and a different color
I don't know why it says mixed, maybe they don't think he's a purebred, who knows, I think at a shelter they are just guessing half the time.Purebred or not he's a living DOLL
Smudge is a pet quality mitted. Not a pointed.
birmans have a different head shape and don't have a white chin. mitted ragdolls SHOULD have white chind, LOL! although, my smudge didn't (and neither does his brothers and sisters from this litter)
I would also like to add, smudge is pet quality, not poor quality, there is a difference. My cats are breed quality, but will produce pets (because of the lack of white on their chins) I think of smaller, sicklier, ect to be poor quality. Although breeding pet qualities (like smudge) together can result as being poor pet quality.
I think some one had mentioned that tonk is too dark to be a ragdoll, here is a picture of my seal point ragdoll, she is pretty dark. She is a show/breed quality (now spayed) girl.
He's SO GORGEOUS I
jenniferd your baby boy is so handsome!!!!
I have a question ........... as I am not a breeder and do not know about breeding .........
Isnt the doll face Persian something that could eventually be considered "show quality"? Isnt that what breeders do better the line?
And in making the line better, changes are made to the look?
Therefore, to say something is not "show quality" doesnt mean that it wont be in the future, as the line changes?
BTW I personally LOVE the dollface Persians!
I have a question ........... as I am not a breeder and do not know about breeding .........
Isnt the doll face Persian something that could eventually be considered "show quality"? Isnt that what breeders do better the line?
And in making the line better, changes are made to the look?
Therefore, to say something is not "show quality" doesnt mean that it wont be in the future, as the line changes?
BTW I personally LOVE the dollface Persians!
Thank you, Bella is a Blue/Cream Himalayan
Persians all used to be doll faced, or look more like a regular cat. I think the standard started to change some 60 years (or longer) ago toard the smushy face. So over decades the standard changed and the modern look is flat smushy faced persian. So, doll faced persians are not likely to be considered show quality, I would think. I don't think any plans are made to bring the old look back as a show look.Originally Posted by Pami
jenniferd your baby boy is so handsome!!!!
I have a question ........... as I am not a breeder and do not know about breeding .........
Isnt the doll face Persian something that could eventually be considered "show quality"? Isnt that what breeders do better the line?
And in making the line better, changes are made to the look?
Therefore, to say something is not "show quality" doesnt mean that it wont be in the future, as the line changes?
BTW I personally LOVE the dollface Persians!
But I personally think it would be very dissapointing if all the doll faced persians died off.
I doubt I could find a look alike in the shelter.
I really was after a specific look.
I like the long fur, short nose, big round eyes, and a round face-I just don't want that nose to be between the eyes, and the face to be so flat.
Regular cats really don't look like doll faced persians. And of course the personality of a persian is very laid back and quiet.
Which is what I wanted-I did not want the cat to bounce off the walls. And anyhow, every time I see a doll faced persian I think they are just the most adorable-I wish I could have them all. In all the different colors.
I really was after a specific look.
I like the long fur, short nose, big round eyes, and a round face-I just don't want that nose to be between the eyes, and the face to be so flat.
Regular cats really don't look like doll faced persians. And of course the personality of a persian is very laid back and quiet.
Which is what I wanted-I did not want the cat to bounce off the walls. And anyhow, every time I see a doll faced persian I think they are just the most adorable-I wish I could have them all. In all the different colors.
