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post #1 of 20
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I will miss this man, even though we agreed on nothing. He was a spiritual leader for many, controversial figure for some, and an all around great public figure.
post #2 of 20
There was nothing wrong with his basic message.
but in later years , he did have some real issues.
post #3 of 20
I'm sad for his family, but this guy was way out there.
post #4 of 20
I am a law student at the university. He was my Chancellor, and also, while I am in Lynchburg, my pastor (my church membership remains back home in Florida). He really was such a friendly guy...he would stop and chat with you on campus and ask you how you were doing. He stood up for what he believed, and I respect that. All of the students, his church members (over 22,000) and much of the city is mourning the loss of a very special man today. On a side note...we're trying to take exams and our campus is flooded by news crews....
post #5 of 20
I did not always agree with him, but I believe he was sincere, and tried to do good in the world. May he RIP.
post #6 of 20
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I am a law student at the university. He was my Chancellor, and also, while I am in Lynchburg, my pastor (my church membership remains back home in Florida). He really was such a friendly guy...he would stop and chat with you on campus and ask you how you were doing. He stood up for what he believed, and I respect that. All of the students, his church members (over 22,000) and much of the city is mourning the loss of a very special man today. On a side note...we're trying to take exams and our campus is flooded by news crews....
I hope the media keeps a distance from you.

I will miss his opinions... we may have really never agreed on anything, but he was always good and making me stand up for what I believed in.
post #7 of 20
HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE right "christian" wing. the moral majority. He held gays, abotionists etc. responsible for 9-11 and everything else that was wrong with the world. Unfortunately, many people bought into his bigotry once he condoned it and made it "ok". He amassed a fortune for himself, under the guise of doing the lords work. I think we are better off without him spreading hatred and bigotry. He died relatively early for this day and age. Perhaps he was being "punished" by the "gay" G-d.
post #8 of 20
As a member of the right wing, and as a Christian, I suppose I liked him for standing up for what he believed. I did not agree with him 100% of the time (as in, his 9/11 comments) but he did great things for the city of Lynchburg. Hundreds of thousands of students have been given an education, thanks to him, and countless other lives have been touched as well. As for his personal wealth, I don't think that it is unethical to invest and to make money. Elon home, the adoption program and help for unwed mothers who choose to keep their children, Liberty counsel which fights for religious freedom - all of these are organizations that he started...not to mention Liberty University, Liberty School of Law, and Thomas Road Baptist Church. He helped organize conservatives and helped get Ronald Reagan into office. (These things are positive for me, but I could see how others would see them as offensive). I personally think he was a man of great vision. I know many who disagreed with him on almost every issue, but who cannot ignore the fact that he has done much good.
post #9 of 20
This is one of those instances where my momma would be proud of me for saying nothing when I have nothing good to say.

Edit: IMO: Many people have good things happening in their name. It adds to their power and the illusion of caring. To me, a person's word is their oath. His words were sad, disrespectful, shameful, pitiful, hatemongering and hurtful. Not a good person - although good things may have been done in his name.

I suppose if one were one of the few who could fit into his narrow world-view of what is correct, right and godly, then one may be able to see him as a good person. As one of the masses, I cannot/could not stand this man.

See, I knew I couldn't shut up. Mom ain't so proud now!
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by gailuvscats View Post
HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE right "christian" wing. the moral majority.
yep those are the good things.
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Originally Posted by gailuvscats View Post
He held gays, abotionists etc. responsible for 9-11 and everything else that was wrong with the world. Unfortunately, many people bought into his bigotry once he condoned it and made it "ok".
those would be the bad things.
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He amassed a fortune for himself, under the guise of doing the lords work. I think we are better off without him spreading hatred and bigotry. He died relatively early for this day and age. Perhaps he was being "punished" by the "gay" G-d.
that would be the liberal, glad someone is dead view. So if we go with that view,
then every time a person gets HIV they are being punished by G-d?
post #11 of 20
I'm sorry for his family and friends.

But as a public figure he was not an asset to this country, so I can't say that I'll personally miss him. Being perpetually enraged isn't good for your health, hopefully his followers will see the toll hatred takes on you and those around you.
post #12 of 20
I honestly have never even heard of the guy! But anyone that has a problem with homosexuals is someone i am VERY happy to have never even heard of!
post #13 of 20
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that would be the liberal, glad someone is dead view. So if we go with that view,
then every time a person gets HIV they are being punished by G-d?
My point exactly, sorry you couldn't pick up on the sarcasm.
post #14 of 20
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My point exactly, sorry you couldn't pick up on the sarcasm.
lol sorry i just cant say death any death, is a good thing. Who did he kill?
who did he rape? he said views many people did not agree with. SO for that reason you want to mock a death of person. even i would not say we are better off without the clintons, who for the most part i hate.
post #15 of 20
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Edit: IMO: Many people have good things happening in their name. It adds to their power and the illusion of caring. To me, a person's word is their oath. His words were sad, disrespectful, shameful, pitiful, hatemongering and hurtful. Not a good person - although good things may have been done in his name.

I suppose if one were one of the few who could fit into his narrow world-view of what is correct, right and godly, then one may be able to see him as a good person. As one of the masses, I cannot/could not stand this man.
I couldn't agree more. No, I do not have that "liberal, glad someone is dead view" as someone earlier stated, and I do feel for his family (as I would any family grieving the loss of a loved one. But he was a hateful, vitriolic, judgmental person and certainly did not espouse the Christian values of love, respect, and tolerance that I've always been taught.
post #16 of 20
He must not have been TOO bad...the Westboro Baptist Church freaks that protest soldier's funerals are going to protest/"preach" at Falwell's funeral too. All because he had the GALL to say that "God loves everyone".

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273313,00.html

(But on a funny note - obviously they must be somewhat ashamed of their own protests - check out the disguise that one is wearing in the picture. It just needs to be white with a pointy hood to mimic a group with the same core value of hatred...)
post #17 of 20
yeah, the westboro group is said to be coming. I don't care how much you hate someone, I don't think protestors should be allowed at funerals.
post #18 of 20
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yeah, the westboro group is said to be coming. I don't care how much you hate someone, I don't think protestors should be allowed at funerals.
Agreed. If they even had a valid point it would be wrong. It's even worse that they don't, and are disrupting someone's funeral because he wasn't bigoted enough. It punishes his friends and family for something he did, which I can never agree with no matter who/what it is.

It seems like somehow someone could figure out a way to stop them, protests get stopped all the time.
post #19 of 20
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Agreed. If they even had a valid point it would be wrong. It's even worse that they don't, and are disrupting someone's funeral because he wasn't bigoted enough. It punishes his friends and family for something he did, which I can never agree with no matter who/what it is.

It seems like somehow someone could figure out a way to stop them, protests get stopped all the time.

From what I understand there are measures in place. The Lynchburg police will be there, as well as Liberty security. And I think students are planning to come and place themselves as a wall between the protestors and the family/guests (since they have to be a certain number of feet away).
post #20 of 20
I suppose that I'm just not cynical enough. I always thought that Falwell's ranting and ramblings was good for a laugh. Life is just too serious to be taken that seriously.
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