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post #1 of 28
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So I'm in my kitchen and I hear all this laughing and splashing of water - some kids are in a neighbour pool who dont live here - they are throwing sticks and stuff and I'm getting madder and madder

I know kids are just having fun, its hot, there are only having a laugh. But its getting a bit crazy.

So I go down to tell them to get out and that its not right to be in someones pool when they are not there.

Guess what.....yep just a load of abuse and they tell me where to get off its not my pool, I can ring the police blah, swear, blah.... DH comes down, the ring leader gives him a load of abuse, language like you've never heard from a kid !

Whats wrong with kids today - I know this kid and I said I'd tell his Dad and he said 'go on then, he don't give a rats-ass anyway' what can you say to kids when they respond like this.

I know what its like having fun and if they'd have just said OK, we're off, then end of, but no just lots of 'well be back' or 'we'll go use someone else's pool'

How awful are kids....................

time for a glass of wine to calm my nerves I think !
post #2 of 28
Kids are too much these days..I don't know why parents don't teach manners anymore

One time I had a 7 year old sexually harassing me..saying things that I've never even heard an adult man tell me. It was disgusting.
post #3 of 28
I can't believe people raise their kids that way!!
post #4 of 28
Blame the parents.
post #5 of 28
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Blame the parents.
Definitely. I wouldn't have been able to sit for a week if my mom had caught me doing something like that.
post #6 of 28
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Kids are too much these days..I don't know why parents don't teach manners anymore

One time I had a 7 year old sexually harassing me..saying things that I've never even heard an adult man tell me. It was disgusting.
Believe me, us parents DO teach manners, but the kids are growing up with this screwed up sense of entitlement that I just CANNOT figure out where it is coming from! HBO, maybe?

My daughter - as much as I love her - grew up watching me struggle to put food on the table, yet would eat a month's worth of groceries within a week, leaving me with nothing. I actually had to STOP food shopping when she was a teenager unless I wanted to go hungry!

She is manipulative and EXPECTS things, just because she is alive. I've seen this in kids that are between the ages of 10-21 (this is a generealization based on MY experience and does not mean that ALL kids are this way.)

Ann, I would have called the police immediately. There are liability issues - what if one of those kids drowns, who will be held responsible?
post #7 of 28
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Ann, I would have called the police immediately. There are liability issues - what if one of those kids drowns, who will be held responsible?
That's exactly what I was going to say. We have pretty strict laws here about swimming pools being protected by fences with secured gates so kids cannot get in and accidentally drown. The owners could be facing a lawsuit if they aren't home and something terrible should happen. I would definitely have called the police.
post #8 of 28
I had to put my .02 in.

I have new neighbors. Their kids are the same age as my youngest. She was thrilled- at first. Now she tries to dodge the doorbell when it rings. These kids are TERRORS. It's gotten so bad, that either my husband or myself has to be out in the yard when they are over, or problems occur.

Dd has gotten hit on the head by a piece of wood, her iPod taken away 4x by these kids. They get into our garage if it's open and "play" in it. And you have to tell them a million times to stop doing something! ARRRGGHHH.

And then, get this. Dd is in 4th grade. She gets a phone call from a friend last night asking her if she wants to go to a concert tonight. HELLO! It's a school night, and state testing is 1 week away. My child is NOT staying up until midnight! I have no idea where the parents brain is (these are parents that I have issues with anyways).

But for the 2 stories like this- I can tell you 5 more of some really good kids.
post #9 of 28
The part that gets me is when you said you'd tell his dad, and he said his dad wouldn't care. If he's right, that alone explains the kids behavior.

I don't think it has anything to do with today vs before. From listening to stories from people who grew up in the 50s, the 70s, etc, I don't think anything's changed at all. Boys will be boys and all that.

You should hear some of the stuff coming out of the kids I catch shoplifting. Half the time it's so obscene I don't even understand what they're trying to say!

Oh, and let the neighbors know these kids were in their pool. They could press charges if they wanted to (I imagine, is that true there?)
post #10 of 28
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Ann, I would have called the police immediately. There are liability issues - what if one of those kids drowns, who will be held responsible?
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That's exactly what I was going to say. We have pretty strict laws here about swimming pools being protected by fences with secured gates so kids cannot get in and accidentally drown. The owners could be facing a lawsuit if they aren't home and something terrible should happen. I would definitely have called the police.
I don't really know the laws regarding pool liabilities here in Spain

I do know that it is illegal to enter someones garden without being invited in - all bells are on the outside wall or gates.

I need to check this out, we have a pool but it is behind 2 locked gates...

I warned them about their own safety but again just got a load of old verbals.
post #11 of 28
Do the little gremlins live there Ann or are they on holiday?. I'm taking it their brits by the way they spoke to you
post #12 of 28
I wouldnt listen to that little boob telling you his Father wouldnt care, keep your word and tell his Father anyway. Let them know you mean business or they will be back again.
post #13 of 28
Some kids are so rude! I hope my future kids never act like that!!
post #14 of 28
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Guess what.....yep just a load of abuse and they tell me where to get off its not my pool, I can ring the police blah, swear, blah.... DH comes down, the ring leader gives him a load of abuse, language like you've never heard from a kid !

Whats wrong with kids today - I know this kid and I said I'd tell his Dad and he said 'go on then, he don't give a rats-ass anyway' what can you say to kids when they respond like this.
a. he's going to say this in front of his friends, regardless of his true feelings, so he doesn't lose face. you should've called dad.
b. i'd've also called the police, after calling dad, especially if dad gave me a similar answer.
post #15 of 28
I can't believe that If i EVER heart my nieces or nephews talk like that - they be in BIG trouble! That is aweful!!!!!!! you should have phoned the cops- they could have got them for diorderly conduct, trespassing, and a noise ordinance!
post #16 of 28
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Blame the parents.
I disagree. Kids today are influenced by TV, movies, the internet and other kids. I wouldn't 100% blame the parents for a child's bad behavior.
post #17 of 28
I never understood this, if a parent gives their child a good swat on the behind when they misbehave society yells abuse so people are reduced to time outs and taking things away, which with kids now days is about as effective as teaching a dog to meow, but then they turn around and complain that kids are out of control, society can't have it both ways. I am not saying people should use spanking all the time but we should be able to use it when needed without getting in trouble.
post #18 of 28
o wow, I agree i think that kids learn this more from others and HBO sometimes it is the parents but not always, I was at the flea market and I was in line for my chicken on a stick well there were these 2 9 year olds I would estimate, and they tried to cut in front of me and were talking about the latest Soprano's episode I was thinking man I was allowed to watch alot of things but I wasn't even allowed to watch that when it first came out!

Now I did have this friend whos parents were there and such but his little brother who was 9 was wow dude, he was bad and he did learn that from friends!

But Anne, I know how you feel we got a whole bunch of new neighbors and well we have to watch our pool this year, luckily we got some great neighbors that are right behind the pool

I too know if I did something like u said I would still probly be in my room
post #19 of 28
cause your not allowed to beat them anymore for stuff like that is why.
post #20 of 28
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I disagree. Kids today are influenced by TV, movies, the internet and other kids. I wouldn't 100% blame the parents for a child's bad behavior.
Depending on age, they make the choice to speak like that. Any child over 4 or 5, if corrected at some point, knows that is not proper behavior.

I grew up watching all sorts of R rated movies,tv, my parents language was awful, and certainly the other kids at school cussed some was well.
I do not debase myself with such crude language. It makes a person sound like a complete idiot, I realized this at 4 years old without correction from an adult.

If the children are trespassing in the future call the police. Simple trespassing can easily turn to vandalism, from there it can lead to more damaging acts - arson and burglary.
post #21 of 28
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cause your not allowed to beat them anymore for stuff like that is why.
post #22 of 28
I'd have called the police.

I also would blame the parents. Even if kids are influenced by TV, movies, etc. their parents should be monitoring what they watch.

Those kids' parents should have known/cared where their kids are!
post #23 of 28
I have noticed this too, and I completely agree with all of you; kids these days are so rude and disresectful. I feel kind of strange saying this because I am a highschool student. Some of my class mates though are terrible. I myself refuse to swear in public and would never even think about swearing like that at an adult. Not all of us kids are like that but there are some who are giving us a bad reputation. Not all of us cuss like sailors, dress like prostitutes or treat adults like moldy cheese. I understand that you are upset about this I just wanted to point out that we don't all need to be whacked upside the head.
post #24 of 28
I feel sorry for parents today. How can they instill discipline in their kids if they aren't allowed to touch them? I mean sending a 3 year old for a "time out" to "think" about what she did wrong. The child forgets what she did wrong by the time she sits down. A swat on the butt would make a better impression, but parents aren't allow to do that anymore. To me, that isn't a "beating" it is "correction". It's what I grew up with. I only got spanked twice in my life, but that threat was always there and I KNEW that. There is a big difference between a few open handed slaps to the butt, and beating with a belt. But, now police apparently aren't allowed to make that distinction. And, truthfully, what I remember upset me the most wasn't the spanking, it was that Mom was upset enough with me to carry out the threat (and, believe me...I deserved it! )

How can parents teach their children to respect adults and authority figures when everything in the media (TV, movies, music, news) say that they are the victums and society is at fault for what they do? I'm not saying that some parents don't instill values or respect in their children...amazingly some do manage to do it. And, I am amazed! My one friend's daughter was taught to call me "Miss Hope". That just floored me! I was so impressed! And, the fact that I was impressed is sad.

Sorry, I just had to vent, yet again.

I would have called his father first, then called the cops if the father didn't want to come over and take responsibility.
post #25 of 28
My daughters are 3 and 4 yrs old and they have more respect drilled into their little toes than those kids had in their whole bodies. My daughters have been trained to call everyone they meet mr and mrs, they do have acceptions to that rule for certain people. They also say thank you and your welcome for everything...I was not the best kid growing up and learned from my mistakes that with my girls I wanted them to grow up with respect for adults...If they are bad they get a "flop on the butt", and they know now that when mommy or daddy say its flopping time they are being bad and stop whatever they are doing right away. If those kids were mine, Id be sending them in a line to David for a floppin on the butt big time. He would rearrange their attitudes in no time.
On Sat when I was outside planting flowers a lady that just moved in down the block has three sons and the youngest was maybe 18 mths old if that. She was outside screaming and yelling obsenties at her kids. I know that I have a potty mouth but around my kids its a diff story. I dont want them repeating that stuff. After about 20 minutes of listening to her yell and scream at those boys I couldnt take it anymore. The littlest one was bawling like Ive never heard a kid cry before. I walked over to her and asked her how in the world she can yell at those kids like that. She was just like they are being *$$holes today. I got P.O. big time at this point and was like well if they are being that bad Ill take them over to my house for an hour and give you a break. I brought those boys over and they played like angels with Maddi and Katy had spaghetti for dinner and sherbert afterwards. They were the best behaved little boys with some attention. When I took those boys back home I told her if she ever has a problem again with them to come knock on my door and Ill watch them for a bit. If she continues to treat them like that Im worried they will end up turning into the hoodlums like we have running around our block breaking into cars and peoples houses stealing stuff. Atleast they are getting a break and able to act like kids and have fun when I have them over.
post #26 of 28
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Do the little gremlins live there Ann or are they on holiday?. I'm taking it their brits by the way they spoke to you
Shamefully they are Brits and they live here unfortunately his Dad owns a bar and he lets the kid work in the food bar, he wont go to school - so you can tell what sort of Dad he is - the kid is horrible, he's always kicking about up to no good - after they left the pool they were messing about on a fork-lift truck that had been left for a job he'll come unstuck and something nasty will happen to him.

We've stopped going to their bar, but once the police came about his son, he'd been seen with some others running along the rafters of a new petrol station - the father denied it and made out he couldn't understand the police

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I wouldnt listen to that little boob telling you his Father wouldnt care, keep your word and tell his Father anyway. Let them know you mean business or they will be back again.
We walked to the bar last night and told his Dad, we know he's not interested in his sons behaviour, so we were making out we were bothered about the kids safety etc....but all he could be bothered to say was 'well he'll learn....maybe' So in this case I think we can safely say the parents are very much part of the blame too !

If they come again, I'll ring the police, I don't need that sort of stuff, but I will also take photos of them in there for extra proof.
post #27 of 28
Sorry to read about this incident Ann...its a sad state of affairs the way some kids can be these days.

You did the right thing telling the father...even thought the father himself is as irresponsible as his son!

Taking pics and keeping a log book (times/dates/what was said/actions) is a very good idea. Gives the Police something to work with.

By the way, who's land is it that the kids are trespassing on? The owner could/should put a sign up warning against trespassers and damage to his/her property caused by potential louts.
post #28 of 28
Nothing children do these days surprises me, I work at a kindergarden/day care. In the afternoon, we have school age kids come, some of them are the worst behaved children, and it is the parents fault. Some of the kids are good kids and they behave and mind when they are told to quit doing something.

The others are a different story, they don't listen, they talk back to the teachers, they do whatever they feel like doing.

We can't spank at our day care, we hafta use time out. Time outs do not work for these kids. When I am working with this group and they disobey me, I make them write lines for me. I do not let them play inside and I do not let them watch tv. I make them write lines and it has to be neat too.

Parents need to start raising their children.
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