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Woman ordered by judge to spend night in the woods

post #1 of 21
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This is actually old news (happened in Nov. 2005) but I was wondering what ya'll thought of the sentence and others like it. For me in this case I think it is very fitting. This woman dumped 35 kittens in 2 state parks. Why because someone dumped them at here house and the HS wouldn't help her so she dumped them in th woods on a cold wintery night. 9 kittens died and many had URIs. Anyways here is the link and wondered what others think:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751
post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
This is actually old news (happened in Nov. 2005) but I was wondering what ya'll thought of the sentence and others like it. For me in this case I think it is very fitting. This woman dumped 35 kittens in 2 state parks. Why because someone dumped them at here house and the HS wouldn't help her so she dumped them in th woods on a cold wintery night. 9 kittens died and many had URIs. Anyways here is the link and wondered what others think:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751
I have had the honor of being in that judge's court room and watched him work. He is an amazing man and I love the fact that he gives non-traditional sentences for people. In fact, I've heard people talking about him and because of his sentences they've re-thought doing stupid things.
post #3 of 21
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I think most of the creative sentence are great. But I have heard of that made me think say what....Don't quote me on this one I am going straight by memory and I have to look this up....But there was a case that a guy was beating on his girlfriend the guy's sentence was either jail time or marry the girlfriend...he was beating. That made me think what was that guy smoking.

As for the case above I read that this woman was running a rescue in Ohio at the time. Is anyone familar with the area to see if she is still barred from running another one?
post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
I think most of the creative sentence are great. But I have heard of that made me think say what....Don't quote me on this one I am going straight by memory and I have to look this up....But there was a case that a guy was beating on his girlfriend the guy's sentence was either jail time or marry the girlfriend...he was beating. That made me think what was that guy smoking.

As for the case above I read that this woman was running a rescue in Ohio at the time. Is anyone familar with the area to see if she is still barred from running another one?
Well, I know the area that she lives in and I can say that there are several problems with her story. 1. The Humane Society in our area would have taken the cats no questions asked. I know that because I volunteer there. 2. I don't believe she is allowed to run her rescue any longer because of what happened.
post #5 of 21
I remember that story, I remember thinking what a great punishment that was.... but they shouldn't have brought her in when it cold nobody saved those little babies
post #6 of 21
I remember that story too, and the night she was supposed to spend outside. I wished she had had to stay out there for long enough to feel what it would be like to starve/freeze to death. (Notice I didn't say she should die, just long enough to realize what it would feel like). Instead she was out long enough to be like "I'm cold".

The metroparks aren't that dangerous.
post #7 of 21
That punishment was too lenient for her!

She should have been sentenced to 10 years of hard labour. That's not sitting in jail time, I'm talking in jail and being forced to perform hard labour IE: washing laundry by hand, land scaping, helping to build homes (IE: Habitat), and when she wasn't doing hard labour, she was in a 6 x 6 cell having nothing but bread and water for her meals.

I have no tolerance for people who hurt animals, and I have even less for someone who would abandon helpless kittens like she did.
post #8 of 21
This woman has serious issues. Hopefully she will never have pets again.
The punishment wasn't harsh enough but at least it was punishment. Plus, it made headlines so perhaps it got the attention of other people. Wish more judges were brave enough to be creative. I like the way he handled those who speed in school zones.
post #9 of 21
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He has ordered a man who hollered "pigs" to police officers to stand on a street corner next to a 350-pound pig with a sign that read, "This is not a police officer."
The image of this one cracked me up!!


On topic though, I love the way this man thinks. I still think it should have been mandatory for her to spend the night in the woods, and then x amount of months volunteering for a shelter of some sort.
post #10 of 21
I don't think that it was enough of a punishment . It will never bring back those lost little souls! It was an easy out for her - 1 night then done.
post #11 of 21
i dont think one night in the woods is quite the same.
She should have gone to jail for longer.
post #12 of 21
I agree, krazycatlover. It was waaaay too lenient. I don't think she should be allowed to ever have animals again, either. She should have at least have to spend a year's worth of weekends sccoping litter boxes at the shelter, no contact with the animals otherwise. In addition to sleeping in the woods on those weekends.
post #13 of 21
I think that these sentences are very productive. I have always said that the person deserves the same treatment for whatever their offense was, especially when it comes to animals.
Let's face it. The traditional sentences for these kinds of offenses, such as probation, jail time, and fines just aren't working. You have to hit them where they will feel the guilt.
If you actually put them in the same situation and make them suffer like their victims, then I think that will make them feel the guilt and remorse of what they have done. I also think embarrassing them is another effective tool. For crimes that are considered "minor" I think this is a better alternative to other approaches.
post #14 of 21
I think that this sentence was way too lenient, if I was the judge I would have given her a custodial sentence- should he have made her work in a shelter then I think fellow workers would have been rightfully upsey

These type of sentences have been making the news in the UK and there is a funny article here:- http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists...074479,00.html
post #15 of 21
I liked the punishment, but like Zissou'smom said, she should have been left out there longer...all night without any food on a late October or early November day.

We have a non tradition judge in these parts too. One "sentance" he gave was to a 16/17 year old kid that blasted some Eminem or maybe it was Clown Posse... anyhoo, he blasted the music through some subdivision and several people called on noise violations.

His sentence was to listen to Barry Manilow for 8 hours.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by lunasmom View Post
His sentence was to listen to Barry Manilow for 8 hours.
That's great! Wonder what happened to that kid?
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Bonnie1965 View Post
That's great! Wonder what happened to that kid?
I don't know what happened to him. He did acknowledge at the end of the sentence that he understood what its like to be forced to listen to music he didn't like.
post #18 of 21
I wanna know why people always pick Barry Manilow when they think of being tortured by music.

Poor Barry!!
post #19 of 21
I agree that it was far too lenient. She should have been made to suffer as those poor kittens did.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by lunasmom View Post
I liked the punishment, but like Zissou'smom said, she should have been left out there longer...all night without any food on a late October or early November day.
Yeah, her sentence wasn't nearly long enough.
post #21 of 21
I think we need more judges like that!!!! Going to jail for a couple months is nothing to some people but being humiliated because of your actions is so much better! Imagine the people following the story and taking pictures of you! I bet reporters are around taking pictures too!
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