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post #1 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:07am
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Thank goodness

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...201517_pf.html
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post #2 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:12am
Yes, thank goodness. Think of how many more people would have missed out on dying if they hadn't?

Besides, it's not as though they had much choice, is it? After all, democracy rules but tyranny reigns.
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post #3 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:14am
Thank goodness yes. Now the men and women over there will have the things they need to be protected and help protect. The argument over when to come home need not put our soldiers at risk becasue they are cutting funding.
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post #4 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:16am
What things are those? Things the current one billion dollars per week isn't buying them?
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post #5 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:23am
Have you seen the yards of all the damaged vehicles that need new armor? There are tons. Even on the billion dollars a week there are still a lot of things they need. They need food, shelter, running water, they need proper training, they need $$ to train the Iraqis. There is a lot that $$ goes towards.
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post #6 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:23am
Yes, thank goodness. Otherwise our soldiers wouldn't even get paid, the supplies they need would have to come from some other already budgeted source. Otherwise, Iraq would be thrown into further chaos with even more Iraqi lives lost due to the massive infighting to gain control.

If they wanted to override the veto, they could have. They didn't have near the 2/3's they needed to do so.

I don't think that they ever really thought the timeline was going to happen. They did it as a political move to show their far left base that they are doing what they said they would, even though they knew good and well that it wouldn't happen.

This doesn't mean that there won't be any changes to direction, just they they won't get 100% of their way.
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post #7 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:27am
Heidi is right...politics is 50% appearance, 40% rhetoric, and 10% accomplishment. They will get things done, eventually.
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post #8 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:28am
`Eventually' is already here - and still nothing's been done!!

Hopefully, some quick, decisive changes will be made, and soon, so that this blasted war and death and horror will come to some kind of resolution - any kind that can possibly be had from the whole sorry debacle.
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post #9 of 15
5/3/07 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
`Eventually' is already here - and still nothing's been done!!

Hopefully, some quick, decisive changes will be made, and soon, so that this blasted war and death and horror will come to some kind of resolution - any kind that can possibly be had from the whole sorry debacle.
No, sorry, nothing quick and decisive...haven't you heard, the Iraqi government is so exhausted from accomplishing almost nothing, that they plan to let our troops defend their country while they take a 2 month recess. All that inactivity is tiring, you know.
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post #10 of 15
5/3/07 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Yes, thank goodness. Think of how many more people would have missed out on dying if they hadn't?

Besides, it's not as though they had much choice, is it? After all, democracy rules but tyranny reigns.
i wonder did you read the bill? it would have gotten more people dead.
but that does not matter right?
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post #11 of 15
5/4/07 at 3:31am
I did read the bill, and I don't agree that it would have got more people dead. We shouldn't be there. That's what I agree with. The rest will have to be worked out another way. Because otherwise this will just drag on interminably and the body count will be unfathomable.
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post #12 of 15
5/4/07 at 3:51am
well we are there, to pack up and leave will cause much more death,
and if the stuff in the bill, will cause even more western deaths.
bad bill, bad idea.
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post #13 of 15
5/4/07 at 8:19am
Thank God for a little sense. We were just dicussing this in the car last nite - the whole idea of giving the enemy a "time table" was insane! EVERYONE wants this to end - that's not the issue; but to spell out a month/year of withdrawal is asking for trouble big time.

Did the Democrats honestly think that Iraq was sitting there without a pen/paper to write it down....and laughing hysterically ?????
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post #14 of 15
5/4/07 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
Yes, thank goodness. Otherwise our soldiers wouldn't even get paid, the supplies they need would have to come from some other already budgeted source. Otherwise, Iraq would be thrown into further chaos with even more Iraqi lives lost due to the massive infighting to gain control.

If they wanted to override the veto, they could have. They didn't have near the 2/3's they needed to do so.

I don't think that they ever really thought the timeline was going to happen. They did it as a political move to show their far left base that they are doing what they said they would, even though they knew good and well that it wouldn't happen.

This doesn't mean that there won't be any changes to direction, just they they won't get 100% of their way.
Maybe I am a total cynic but I agree with you. Politicians in general never seem to do anything but showboat. What we need is an actual withdrawal policy that does not at any point put our troops in any more danger than they're already in and doesn't keep their equipment in disrepair... punishing the military isn't the way to go, so many of them don't think we should be there either. A timetable might be necessary but not a public one. It should be simply ASAP. But from the number of people I know who are being deployed to Iraq NEXT YEAR I don't think it's really happening.
And there is lots to support that the Iraqi government has established offices whose whole purpose is to push an extremist Shi'ite agenda. What a disaster. We haven't even managed to do what we claimed we were going to.
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post #15 of 15
5/6/07 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
`Eventually' is already here - and still nothing's been done!!

Hopefully, some quick, decisive changes will be made, and soon, so that this blasted war and death and horror will come to some kind of resolution - any kind that can possibly be had from the whole sorry debacle.
AMEN! This was a pointless war to begin with. Training for what? We've already wasted money to train the iraqis. It's getting nowhere. There is no end in sight. Something needs to be enforced so more people don't sacrifice their lives for a worthless cause.

As far as a timetable, I think that they need to start planning, but they don't have to pinpoint it. As for the terrorists, if they want to find out, they have ways of doing so. They always seem to be one step ahead of us no matter how prepared we think we are.
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