I'll be there, too. If I can manage to get her spayed, I might bring another cat named Chloe. My uncle will be bringing her down here to our house in a week and a half and I really think she is too beautiful not to be shown. She is a pointed cat.Originally Posted by Kai Bengals
No,those are CFA shows. Bengals are feline-non-grata at CFA shows.
They don't like cats with wild blood in their show halls or their registry. Their loss IMO.
I will be at the TICA Raleigh show in July. It's the South East regional, so a big show, held at the fairgrounds. Jack should be getting some regional awards so we're going and will be showing our new crew for the upcoming show season.
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Family,
While you don't like the CFA rules for only recognizing the bicolor Rags right now, if you DON'T take the time and effort to show the other colors/patterns (even if it doesn't technically count) how in the world do you expect them to recognize the other patterns?
The more Ragdolls breeders/owners show the other patterns in CFA to show them they are just as good, the faster it will be for them to accept them IN championship.
IMO by not putting them in, you are hurting the breed for further recognization
Think about i!
While you don't like the CFA rules for only recognizing the bicolor Rags right now, if you DON'T take the time and effort to show the other colors/patterns (even if it doesn't technically count) how in the world do you expect them to recognize the other patterns?
The more Ragdolls breeders/owners show the other patterns in CFA to show them they are just as good, the faster it will be for them to accept them IN championship.
IMO by not putting them in, you are hurting the breed for further recognization
True enough - rumour has it that the AOV Ragdoll colors will be approved sooner then you think anyway - they are just holding off coz in the beginning when the Ragdoll breeders approached CFA they swore to only have the two colors!Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45
Family,
While you don't like the CFA rules for only recognizing the bicolor Rags right now, if you DON'T take the time and effort to show the other colors/patterns (even if it doesn't technically count) how in the world do you expect them to recognize the other patterns?
The more Ragdolls breeders/owners show the other patterns in CFA to show them they are just as good, the faster it will be for them to accept them IN championship.
IMO by not putting them in, you are hurting the breed for further recognizationThink about i!
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Hey guys, we need to stick with MAY shows - you guys are jumping into future months - will get mixed up
Done up for you!Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45
Hey guys, we need to stick with MAY shows - you guys are jumping into future months - will get mixed up
ACFA - May 19/20 - Maple Grove, Minnesota
CFA - May 26/27 - Des Moines, Iowa[/quote]
CFA - May 5/6, Concord, NH
CFA - May 12-13 in Raleigh NC
TICA - on May 20th Arcadia California
GCCFSA - May 13 - Gepps Cross, SA (Australia)
CFA - May 12 in Ann Arbor, MI.
5/6 May 2007 "Magical Cats" Bracknell Leisure Centre, Berkshire UK
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Thanks for posting them all together
It has been thought about by my husand and myself, which is why when they allow the AOV Ragdolls in the CFA show for a less fee on many shows, then, yes of course, I will place my Ragdolls in the show, but the closer shows have asked the same cost as if the cat would gain points or get a rosette, and those shows I will not enter. There are already many Ragdoll breeders showing the other 2 patterns in CFA, I don't feel it will too long. I don't feel it is hurting our breed any for me not to place my other patterns in the CFA shows, our breed seems to be gaining recognition enough on its own merit, that it isn't just a bicolor only pattern. But IMO, it is CFA's loss for not already recognizing the other 2 patterns that have been there from the beginning. I would much rather give my money to TICA, who has accepted all the Ragdolls patterns including lynx, and the red family now.Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45
Family,
While you don't like the CFA rules for only recognizing the bicolor Rags right now, if you DON'T take the time and effort to show the other colors/patterns (even if it doesn't technically count) how in the world do you expect them to recognize the other patterns?
The more Ragdolls breeders/owners show the other patterns in CFA to show them they are just as good, the faster it will be for them to accept them IN championship.
IMO by not putting them in, you are hurting the breed for further recognizationThink about i!
Also, when a CFA show is in the same weekend as a TICA show, what is a breeder of all pattern Ragdolls to do? GO TO TICA!!!
I can sit with the beautiful Bengals that aren't accepted in CFA either.
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They have to be 4 months old. I also think that CFA only excepts bi-colors not mitted or color points. I am not sure if it will be changing or has changed, but I have a only mitted at the time and unless things have changed I will only be showing at TICA shows atleast for now.
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Exactly right! I believe if they had the lower fee mabey more would try to show AOV raggies. But like you said if they are on the same date, I would be more willing to support TICA over CFA. I am not even registered through CFA. My queen Icey is registered TICA and CFF I only register litters with TICA so I don't think I could even show at a CFA show if I had a bi-color to show.Originally Posted by FamilytimeRags
It has been thought about by my husand and myself, which is why when they allow the AOV Ragdolls in the CFA show for a less fee on many shows, then, yes of course, I will place my Ragdolls in the show, but the closer shows have asked the same cost as if the cat would gain points or get a rosette, and those shows I will not enter. There are already many Ragdoll breeders showing the other 2 patterns in CFA, I don't feel it will too long. I don't feel it is hurting our breed any for me not to place my other patterns in the CFA shows, our breed seems to be gaining recognition enough on its own merit, that it isn't just a bicolor only pattern. But IMO, it is CFA's loss for not already recognizing the other 2 patterns that have been there from the beginning. I would much rather give my money to TICA, who has accepted all the Ragdolls patterns including lynx, and the red family now.
Also, when a CFA show is in the same weekend as a TICA show, what is a breeder of all pattern Ragdolls to do? GO TO TICA!!!
I can sit with the beautiful Bengals that aren't accepted in CFA either.Each association has their own rules, we follow them, which has lead us to be more of a TICA supporter, when a CFA show comes close, and isn't in line with a TICA, I will gladly have our mitted and colorpoints out there for the judges to see, especially if they give the special AOV prices, but I am not going to raise CFA's revenue to allow the judge to see a pattern that has been there from the beginning. JMO.
The Ragdoll breed in the beginning has always had 4 colors, Seal, Blue, Chocolate, and Lilac, in the 3 patterns of Bicolor, Mitted, and Colopoint. At some point, they allowed for outcrossing for the reds, and lynx. I don't think it will be too long before at least the mitted and colopoints are accepted. I don't work with the lynx or reds, I myself have been staying seal and blue only, that is our passion, so that is what we are sticking with, I do like the lynx pattern, but right now our program is going to focus on these 2 colors, and the 3 patterns, without lynx.
From the way I read CFA, they accept bicolor and van patterns in all of the colors, seal, blue, chocolate, lilac, red, and cream. With or without the lynx, tortie, or torbie (lynx+tortie). They just haven't accepted the mitted or colorpoint patterns yet.
I may have read that wrong, here is what I read and gathered from it.
http://www.cfa.org/breeds/profiles/ragdoll.html
Even if you are not a member or your cattery isn't registered with them, you can still show a bicolor with CFA. The white spotting factor is still an issue in CFA, so you would need to have a bicolor with the patterning correct, but for a small hock mark or something, they may take off certain points, but if the overall type is there, by all means take a bicolor to CFA. One of my bicolor males, our first stud, is a bicolor, a high mitted bicolor, and has a few dark spots in areas, that are not considered perfect for show, however, he produces kittens with nice clean markings, so it has evened itself out. It is only my opinion in the Ragdoll breed and other breeds judged on patten placement, that you have to look at the overall type first, to see if the cat is of type for your program, and look at the pattern last, however, you can have a wonderful type Ragdoll in your program, and if the WSF isn't showing better patterning in kittens, it doesn't help too much. From many breeders I have spoke to, most seem to prefer working with the High mitted bicolor, opinions being that they do give better marked kittens. Van patterning in our Ragdolls is not accepted in TICA for championship status, however, the Van bicolor is in CFA.
I think Koda Bear will do well in TICA as an adult, I just hope when he begins to breed, that he produces clean marked kittens. I have a seal bicolor female joining us next week from Canada. She will be shown. I will tell more about her when she arrives and I can get many pictures of her, she comes from a RW QGC daddy, and then the Mom isn't titled, but has many Grands and Supremes behind her in her 5 generations. The Dad is very close to gaining his DM, and I hope our new baby can help him on his way to gaining that status. We are very excited!!
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I am so excited for you and your family! I hope your new girl works out as well as you hope and even better!Originally Posted by FamilytimeRags
Even if you are not a member or your cattery isn't registered with them, you can still show a bicolor with CFA. The white spotting factor is still an issue in CFA, so you would need to have a bicolor with the patterning correct, but for a small hock mark or something, they may take off certain points, but if the overall type is there, by all means take a bicolor to CFA. One of my bicolor males, our first stud, is a bicolor, a high mitted bicolor, and has a few dark spots in areas, that are not considered perfect for show, however, he produces kittens with nice clean markings, so it has evened itself out. It is only my opinion in the Ragdoll breed and other breeds judged on patten placement, that you have to look at the overall type first, to see if the cat is of type for your program, and look at the pattern last, however, you can have a wonderful type Ragdoll in your program, and if the WSF isn't showing better patterning in kittens, it doesn't help too much. From many breeders I have spoke to, most seem to prefer working with the High mitted bicolor, opinions being that they do give better marked kittens. Van patterning in our Ragdolls is not accepted in TICA for championship status, however, the Van bicolor is in CFA.
I think Koda Bear will do well in TICA as an adult, I just hope when he begins to breed, that he produces clean marked kittens. I have a seal bicolor female joining us next week from Canada. She will be shown. I will tell more about her when she arrives and I can get many pictures of her, she comes from a RW QGC daddy, and then the Mom isn't titled, but has many Grands and Supremes behind her in her 5 generations. The Dad is very close to gaining his DM, and I hope our new baby can help him on his way to gaining that status. We are very excited!!
Thank-you for clearing that up for me. I thought you had to be registered with or at least have the cat registered as such to show them in their show Since I only have mitted kittens at the moment I haven't thought about CFA much.
I apologize, I think I worded it wrong, the cat does have to be registered with CFA, I am sorry, my thinking is a little off. Reason, all large masses were benign!!! I still have 4 weeks of recovery, but each day is better!! But yes, you don't have to be a member, or have your cattery registered, but the cat itself does have to be registered in CFA, if you wish to transfer your cat into CFA, email me, and I can help you with that. I am sorry that I may have misworded my previous post. I hope I cleared that up.
We are very excited to have this little girl coming, I don't want to jinx it, so I am keeping her to myself, until she arrives and then I will be sharing her. We have another surprise that has been born, but it will be well into August before he gets here, so I will keep hush-hush for now, and try and contain myself, and not allow the excitement to take over.
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I am not sure if you worded wrong or I read wrong, LOL! Either way, I understand now!Originally Posted by FamilytimeRags
I apologize, I think I worded it wrong, the cat does have to be registered with CFA, I am sorry, my thinking is a little off. Reason, all large masses were benign!!! I still have 4 weeks of recovery, but each day is better!! But yes, you don't have to be a member, or have your cattery registered, but the cat itself does have to be registered in CFA, if you wish to transfer your cat into CFA, email me, and I can help you with that. I am sorry that I may have misworded my previous post. I hope I cleared that up.
We are very excited to have this little girl coming, I don't want to jinx it, so I am keeping her to myself, until she arrives and then I will be sharing her. We have another surprise that has been born, but it will be well into August before he gets here, so I will keep hush-hush for now, and try and contain myself, and not allow the excitement to take over.
Benign is a good thing right? That means non cancerous right, I hope. I have a lot on my mind as well, I won't get into it much but, where I had been so sick this winter I have had a lot of test done for it and I am afraid I will be having some issues coming up for me. I have put off surgury 3 times now and after many months of being sick and having pain I am going to do some thing about it and hope it isn't too late.
I can't wait for your news! I will be on pins and needles until august! I hope every thing works out well.
I will email you soon about cfa.
Leslye,
You are in my prayers, I hope everything turns out well for you. Don't wait too long. That was something I did, and it yes benign means NON cancerous. Thank the Lord!!
I had many things on my plate for a few months, and put off DR. appointments until I thougt things would settle. Things are now settling down around us, and we hope for them to stay that way. However, life happens, and keeps happening, we can deal with it a lot better, when we feel better. Don't wait. I will be waiting for those emails. (nudge nudge,
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You are in my prayers, I hope everything turns out well for you. Don't wait too long. That was something I did, and it yes benign means NON cancerous. Thank the Lord!!
I had many things on my plate for a few months, and put off DR. appointments until I thougt things would settle. Things are now settling down around us, and we hope for them to stay that way. However, life happens, and keeps happening, we can deal with it a lot better, when we feel better. Don't wait. I will be waiting for those emails. (nudge nudge,
Thank goodness your masses are benign! You were lucky that you didn't put off those appointments until it was too late. Great advise for Leslye! Please don't put off going to see the Dr. You must go as quickly as you can - and hopefully, if you need tests, etc., the news will end up being good...and that helps your state of mind. If you do need surgary, the sooner the better - not only for your physical well being, but also for your emotional healh! Good luck!Originally Posted by FamilytimeRags
Leslye,
You are in my prayers, I hope everything turns out well for you. Don't wait too long. That was something I did, and it yes benign means NON cancerous. Thank the Lord!!
I had many things on my plate for a few months, and put off DR. appointments until I thougt things would settle. Things are now settling down around us, and we hope for them to stay that way. However, life happens, and keeps happening, we can deal with it a lot better, when we feel better. Don't wait. I will be waiting for those emails. (nudge nudge,)
Hopey was only finalled once at her last show but she placed 4th Best Shorthair Kitten! We were very happy for her!
The thing is there is only one other Siamese there other than that she is competing against Maine Coon's and Bengals in the finals. I wish there were more Siamese kittens being entered. She always wins Best of Breed and Best of Division over the other kitty (lovely girl but less typey) but she only finalled once last time.
Behavior was much better this time, she did not hiss at one judge, just meowed a lot! She got a lot of points and had she been an adult she would have made champion. I did get lots of great comments about her
They also decided that she is a Seal Torbie rather than a chocolate torbie, her breeder does not agree though.
Thats my update! I have not been around as much on TCS as I started a job 6 weeks ago
The thing is there is only one other Siamese there other than that she is competing against Maine Coon's and Bengals in the finals. I wish there were more Siamese kittens being entered. She always wins Best of Breed and Best of Division over the other kitty (lovely girl but less typey) but she only finalled once last time.
Behavior was much better this time, she did not hiss at one judge, just meowed a lot! She got a lot of points and had she been an adult she would have made champion. I did get lots of great comments about her
They also decided that she is a Seal Torbie rather than a chocolate torbie, her breeder does not agree though.
Thats my update! I have not been around as much on TCS as I started a job 6 weeks ago
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What color are the paw pads? And do you have a couple of good shots of her for color - I'll give my opinion on seal or chocolate tortie
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