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Information on Siamese?

post #1 of 29
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Well after reading the children's book Skippyjon Jones at work, I fell in love with siamese cats. I was wondering if anyone had any information on them and if anyone knows of any breeders. Both my fiance and I want a siamese, so I am eager to start learning more about them as every breed of cat is different.
post #2 of 29
Have a look around these two sites

www.kittysites.com

www.breedlist.com
post #3 of 29
Thread Starter 
Any information on breeders either in my area (Richmond, Va) in my state (Virginia) or surrounding states?
post #4 of 29
If you check out the breedlist link posted above, it has them sorted by breed, then by state so you should be able to find one. You just need to decide whether you like to traditional look or the more modern look better.
post #5 of 29
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Hmm, both are very nice, but I think I like the old look better. I guess we'll see. The fiance likes them both.
post #6 of 29
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Are Siamese good with other cats?
post #7 of 29
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Wait, which body style is the old style? I like the long and lean body type with a wedged shaped head. Kind of exotic looking. I like the seal point siamese.
post #8 of 29
They are good with dogs and other cats as long as the cats are also active cats. The traditional type have the round body type and head. Show Siamese are very thin with a very wedge shaped head and the new thing seems to be very large ears set almost on the sides of the heads. You can find Siamese that fall everywhere in between. I personally like the ones that fall in-between, sometimes called classic. They have a longer thinner body with a wedge shaped head but are not real extreme. A Siamese can be very vocal and they have a unique voice some people think that at times they can sound almost like a baby crying. Some Siamese are more vocal than others but it is something you need to be prepared for and they want a lot of attention and to be in the middle of everything.
post #9 of 29
Siamese are very active cats. If you are considering only one, you should have another active cat or dog in the house or someone that is home most of the day.

They are pretty talkative too. Do you live in an apartment or single house, cause if an apartment, it might not be a good idea to have a siamese I like the chocolate points the best as the coat color stays lighter. Seals tend to get a dark coat as they age.
post #10 of 29
Thread Starter 
I will be living in a 3bdrm townhome with two other cats. They are quite active and get into everything while I'm at work.
post #11 of 29
From your other posts on TCS it sounds like you already have your hands full.

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Originally Posted by Soka View Post
Hmm, lets start with my room first. I live in the basement, so there is a lot of space down here.

2 cats (Tyran and Miki)
3 zebra danios (Tiger, 2 new)
2 mollies
1 Betta (Jolly Rodger)
1 Snow Corn snake (Zim)

Upstairs

2 Yorkies (Haley and Keltie)

Outside

2 samoyeds (Winona and Stosh)

Then we have two dogs at my mothers house.

1 Silky Terrier (Lacey)
1 Shitzu (Braylin)

And I'm about to add a leopard gecko to the mix in a month or two.
post #12 of 29
OHHHH man - you do have a full house and you want to add a Siamese ?????? Best wishes
post #13 of 29
There is a topnotch organization in Virginia: www.siameserescue.org
Siamese Rescue, they have many pure bred Siamese cats and kittens that need good homes.

I got my Siamese from them; actually from the Houston Siamese Rescue branch, and she is a gem. She was 7 months when I got her.
post #14 of 29
Ok. First of all, I do not want to sound mean. My PHX is actually a siamese, so i'm speaking of personal opinions-not expert advice. If you have your hands full, please do not get a siamese cat. They demand ALL of your attention. Every last second is dedicated to my cat. He cries during the day when I'm at work--we are working on that. The second I walk in the door after work I am giving my life to him. I am not over exagerating- i promise. PHX will not let me go to the frickin' bathroom without him being there. He sits on the toilet while I take a shower. He even goes outside with us when we go out on the patio. If we go to the neighbors, he goes with. He follows me around the house like a little puppy dog. When I first got him he meowed all night because he was lonely. Siamese are VERY VOCAL! VERY FRIENDLY! They will get strongly attached to you. He is a very demanding cat..if your hands are already full- will you have enough time for a siamese cat? The decision of course, is up to you. Just giving you some friendly advice!

I looked these up for you.. hope it helps!

www.va.siameserescue.org
www.breedlist.com/breeders/sia_uw.html
www.siameserescue.org/webcam.html
http://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/siamese.htm
post #15 of 29
Thread Starter 
Trust me, I won't have my hands full. All of the dogs are not mine and other than walking my grandmother's yorkies for money, I don't take care of them. My only responsiblities are my current two cats, two fish tank that will be combined into one when I move, a snake, and one leopard gecko. At the townhome, those will be the only animals there. No dogs. Just cats and caged animals. As far as attention. When I am home, I spend about 99% of my time with my cats. The other one percent is bathing and eating. Oh and sleeping too.

Mybabyphx, your Phx sounds like my Tyran, minus taking the cat to the neighbors. She follows me around, goes into the bathroom with me (and will sit in my shorts while I use the toilet ). Right now she is circling my chair, wanting me to pick her up. When I got her from the rescue at the age of 3 months, she would not give me a moments peace. She would roam around the room and "get lost" and meow for me to come find her. She's like my "Siamese Training Cat". She is very vocal and has a different meow for everything. So I'm used to demanding cats. She's in my lap now watching me type. Both of my cats are tolerant of other cats and Tyran absolutely loves other cats. Miki has to warm up.

So I guess, what I've meant to say in all of that is, I won't have my hands full adding a new set of paws to the family. I'm actually used to a lot of animals. I grew up with animals all my life and depending on the schedule they are on, my animals get fed before me, cleaned up after before me, and get attention before I get my own time. (if at all with these fuzzballs)

Oh and thanks for all the links. I'll definatly be checking them out. I would love to get a Siamese from a rescue, and while I personally would not mind getting an adult, Miki is not a 'cat person' if that makes any sense. She really has to warm up to newcomers, but once she does, she sticks to them like glue. Her and Tyran are inseperable(sp). So, a kitten might .be best. Tyran on the other hand, could care less what age you are. She's still going to play with you.
post #16 of 29
Soka,
Not all Siamese are desperately needy. It sounds like you are looking for a show style Siamese. They do have a tendency to be more talkative and have higher energy levels. They like to climb and be up high. If you will be in a multi family dwelling you will want to consider how much of a talker the Siamese you pick will be. The Siamese has a distinct voice and it seems people either love it or hate it. Those that don't like it say it is whiny and nagging. Those who love it hear it as conversation. You and anyone who will be living with you should spend some time with a Siamese breeder before you take a Siamese home. Fictional stories are not always accurate and often romanticize animals. Don't make this decision based on one book you read. Prioritize the reasons you are considering a Siamese. Make a list of what is most important to you when it come to choosing a kitten or cat. Cats are as individual as people are. A breeder will be able to guide you to the kitten/cat that will best fit what you are looking for. Check with the breed clubs in your area for a show you can attend so you can meet some breeders and make an appointment to visit with their cats.

A quick check of The National Siamese cat club shows a breeder listing in Virginia
http://www.chermaki.com/home.htm

You can see what winning show siamese look like on the CFA Siamese Breed Council webpage http://www.siamesebc.org/topSiamese2005-06.shtml

The Siamese Cat Rescue Center volunteers wiil be attending the Heritage Humane Society of Williamsburg “Bark in the Park†on Saturday, April 28th from 9am till noon. You could talk with them about the cats they have and you might even want to consider being a foster family.
post #17 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soka View Post
Trust me, I won't have my hands full. All of the dogs are not mine and other than walking my grandmother's yorkies for money, I don't take care of them. My only responsiblities are my current two cats, two fish tank that will be combined into one when I move, a snake, and one leopard gecko. At the townhome, those will be the only animals there. No dogs. Just cats and caged animals. As far as attention. When I am home, I spend about 99% of my time with my cats. The other one percent is bathing and eating. Oh and sleeping too.

Mybabyphx, your Phx sounds like my Tyran, minus taking the cat to the neighbors. She follows me around, goes into the bathroom with me (and will sit in my shorts while I use the toilet ). Right now she is circling my chair, wanting me to pick her up. When I got her from the rescue at the age of 3 months, she would not give me a moments peace. She would roam around the room and "get lost" and meow for me to come find her. She's like my "Siamese Training Cat". She is very vocal and has a different meow for everything. So I'm used to demanding cats. She's in my lap now watching me type. Both of my cats are tolerant of other cats and Tyran absolutely loves other cats. Miki has to warm up.

So I guess, what I've meant to say in all of that is, I won't have my hands full adding a new set of paws to the family. I'm actually used to a lot of animals. I grew up with animals all my life and depending on the schedule they are on, my animals get fed before me, cleaned up after before me, and get attention before I get my own time. (if at all with these fuzzballs)

Oh and thanks for all the links. I'll definatly be checking them out. I would love to get a Siamese from a rescue, and while I personally would not mind getting an adult, Miki is not a 'cat person' if that makes any sense. She really has to warm up to newcomers, but once she does, she sticks to them like glue. Her and Tyran are inseperable(sp). So, a kitten might .be best. Tyran on the other hand, could care less what age you are. She's still going to play with you.
I love having cats that follow me around.. everyone that comes over to my house thinks that PHX is almost like a cat\\dog lol. I have to actually explain- NO, he's really just a cat! LOL. I agree with the other posts, you should spend time with siamese before you get one.

Is there anything else in particular you want to know about siamese?
post #18 of 29
Thread Starter 
I don't mind talkative cats at all. Taking everyone to interact with Siamese seems like a good idea. I will look through all of the links you all have given me and find a rescue or breeder in the area or at least in Virginia. I am not basing my decision to get a Siamese on a book. My fiance wanted a Siamese and I remembered that we had a book about a Siamese kitten at work. I read it and thought it was the cutest thing. So now I am trying to do some research on the breed before making any kind of actual decision. It is a breed we are considering and not the only one on our list of breeds to check out.
post #19 of 29
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Yes, I would like to know a few more things. Are they prone to any specific diseases. I know that each purebred whether it be cat or dog are sometimes at more risk for certain genetic disorders, diseases, and conditions.
post #20 of 29
Siamese and Orientals tend to have higher percentage of cardiomyopothy then some other breeds. So expect some degree of heart murmer - many grow out of it as they get older, but some retain the heart problems.
post #21 of 29
I'm probably biased, but I adore Siamese as you can tell by my siggie. They truly are special cats and bond closely with their humans. Our babies are not overly talkative (Mika has a voice defect and cannot talk except for little huffing noises) and Bijou only talks if he wants something very badly which isn't often.
post #22 of 29
I am a Siamese breeder in Virginia, however due to health concerns (my own, not my cats), I am not currently breeding. My cats are the Old-Style Siamese.

Out of the 4 I currently have, only one is that extremely needy, in-your-face kind of guy and that's George. Pearl and Lexus are more independant, but Pearl has her demanding moments when she wants attention. Lexus will pretty much do her own thing but also comes seeking me out when she wants my hands on her body, which is rare. She's more of a Daddy's girl. Tonka is my stud and as such, is caged. However, I am in the room where his cage is located most all of the time and he loves having the company.

Soka, please do not be offended by what I am getting ready to say, but even with the edited listing of pets you have, as a breeder, I would not place a kitten in your home at this time. From what you have said about your cats, it wouldn't be a good match. And reptiles are a natural prey for cats. Too many things could (I didn't say "would") happen that could cause you to regret your decision to further share your home with a Siamese. They are ~extremely~ curious and will stop AT NOTHING to get to something that interests them. Snakes and fish would be at the very top of that list. My gentle suggestion to you is to wait. A 3-BR townhouse is a fairly small space for so many pets.

Siamese cats are also extremely prone to teeth and gum issues, often resulting in early chronic renal failure due to the systemic infection in the blood stream, which then attacks the kidneys. It can also attack the heart, resulting in sudden death. Siamese may also have a tendancy towards Pica, a chewing disorder where they will totally anihilate wool or other types of fabrics. The resulting blockages can be life-threatening at worst and at best, very expensive to remedy at the vet.

Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to discourage you or anyone else from considering a Siamese kitten, but it really pays to do your research before just bringing one home. Siamese do better in pairs or even numbers - even when other cats reside in the home. They are pretty breed-biased and will stick with their own kind.
post #23 of 29
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Either way, I wouldn't mind how much the cat talked. I'm used to both sides of the spectrum. Tyran talks up a storm and Miki is quiet as a mouse unless she is hungry and even then its only a chirping noise.

Siamese are beautiful cats and are right up there on my list of favorite breeds. They are slowly becoming my favorite. The more I read about them from breeder sites and such, the more I want one. If I do get one, it will be months down the road, possibly more than a year, so I will have time to make sure the Siamese is right for me.
post #24 of 29
Thread Starter 
I understand your concern gayef, and as I said, I won't be getting a third cat for a long time, so I have time to make sure that everything is right as rain before adding ANY new cat to the family. I don't want to make any mistakes that could cost the life of any of my reptiles, fish, or my cats.

The reptiles will soon be moved to secure enclosures, but even then, I would be hesitant to let the cats anywhere near them. I was planning on asking the other two people I will be sharing the townhome with (we plan on moving in this Fall) if I could use the 3rd bedroom as a room to house my reptiles, and keep that room 'off-limits' to the cats.
post #25 of 29
I have 2 Siamese and 2 Bengals, one definately old style, and one a modern style NOT EXTREME Siamese. My old style boy, in VERY needy, and my modern female in snot so needy but she is VERY loving. I got the female from a breeder of new style show cats. The breeder didn't want her, because she extreme enough for todays standards, which to me means she looks like a cat, and not a bat or an alien from outer space. Anyway, the breeder told me she was extremely talkative. In the two years I've had her in my life, she has meowed only twice. She is very quiet. She is a real climber though, and has actually taught my Bengal boy a thing or two about climbing.
post #26 of 29
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Gayef, in response to your added paragraphs. I understand that you trying to give me the information I need to know, and I greatly appreciate it. I know to do my research before getting ANY pet. I am never one to just go out and get a pet.

Take my leopard gecko for instance. I researched for a while before actually getting one. From advice of keepers and even people here on TCS, I decided on only keeping one female to a 29g tank, which was actually recommended to me by a TCS member. I researched all requirements before purchasing the gecko and had EVERYTHING I would need for it. I'm doing the same thing with researching the Siamese. I am in no way going to go out and get one withing the next few months. I plan on researching and researching until my mind is made up, and then I'm going to sit on that decision for a few months. Bringing new animals into the home is kind of like a tattoo. You don't want to get it, unless you are absolutely sure.

And thankyou, gayef for letting me know about the potential problems that a Siamese can have.
post #27 of 29
That's good to hear, Soka. I'm glad to hear this isn't an impulse thing, which is really what I was afraid of.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by gayef View Post
And reptiles are a natural prey for cats. Too many things could (I didn't say "would") happen that could cause you to regret your decision to further share your home with a Siamese. They are ~extremely~ curious and will stop AT NOTHING to get to something that interests them. Snakes and fish would be at the very top of that list.
I have a turtle,snail, and an algae eater all in one big tank on top of my entertainment center. luckily PHX has never once attempted to see whats in there (while i've been home at least) But yes Siamese are very curious, I will agree!

Did you have anything else in particular that you needed to know? We're all happy to help you.. that is why (of course) we are all here on the cat site!! LOL
post #29 of 29
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I mainly wanted to know general temperment and possible health problems. Thank you to everyone who replied. It was a big help! I'll be looking for a siamese breeder or rescue in a few months to go and meet some Siamese.
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