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post #31 of 53
4/23/07 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
That article does put an understanding perspective on his situation. In a way it makes me feel sorry for him. I know what he said was completely unacceptable, but he is human, and he simply lost it. I can understand his frustration.
I agree with that, Hope. I see where his frustration came out, after he was supposed to speak with her and she wasn't available apparently for not the first time.
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post #32 of 53
4/23/07 at 7:30pm
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Wow, let's us make excuses for Alec Baldwin verbally abusing his daughter.

And no one knows who leaked that tape yet, it could have been Ireland or one of her friends. I am sure we will find out. Don't you think Kim would know that leaking that tape would get her a contempt of court charge.

I can't believe what I am hearing, people making excuses for Alec Baldwins horrid verbal abuse that we KNOW he did and convicting Kim Bassinger for something no one even knows if she did. Holy cow.
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post #33 of 53
4/23/07 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Wow, let's us make excuses for Alec Baldwin verbally abusing his daughter.

And no one knows who leaked that tape yet, it could have been Ireland or one of her friends. I am sure we will find out. Don't you think Kim would know that leaking that tape would get her a contempt of court charge.

I can't believe what I am hearing, people making excuses for Alec Baldwins horrid verbal abuse that we KNOW he did and convicting Kim Bassinger for something no one even knows if she did. Holy cow.

I think we've all said we know he was totally wrong in the way he talked to his daughter. It was abuse, plain and simple, no one is convicting Kim Bassinger. However, there is always 2 sides to every story, and it is possible that his frustration just reached a level where it snapped. That is not excusing him, because he's an adult, and he needs to act like an adult when dealing with his child. In this case he acted like a little boy having a temper tantrum. I just tend to think that Ms Bassinger did INDEED leak this to the media, because truthfully they are BOTH acting like children.
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post #34 of 53
4/23/07 at 8:46pm
I "heard" (no source, just talking 'round the water cooler at work ) that Kim's lawyers said that Ireland (the daughter) wanted it released, and that's why it was given to the press.
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post #35 of 53
4/23/07 at 9:43pm
She's probably sick to death of being spoken to and treated that way - I am convinced that this wasn't a `one-off' situation. Perhaps she thought the only way to get some respite from it was to make the world see what he's really like. And I can't blame her - she's 11, he's in his 40s. Yet it seems there are two children here.
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post #36 of 53
4/23/07 at 9:49pm
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
She's probably sick to death of being spoken to and treated that way - I am convinced that this wasn't a `one-off' situation. Perhaps she thought the only way to get some respite from it was to make the world see what he's really like. And I can't blame her - she's 11, he's in his 40s. Yet it seems there are two children here.
I couldn't agree more with the above post.

True or not I've never been a fan of Alec Baldwin, he's a turd and especially so if he treats his daughter that way.

LOL...wasn't he supposed to move and live in a different country if Bush was elected president? I thought he said he would do that.
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post #37 of 53
4/24/07 at 7:10am
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Yes, I heard the same thing, that Ireland leaked the tape. It was on her phone. I wonder what people will say if it comes out that Ireland leaked it.
I wonder if it will still be Kim's fault.

All Alec Baldwin is doing is trying to cloud the issue and spin the situation in a different directing by keeping the attention on "the TAPE leaker"

I'm glad it was leaked, it shows how really bad he is.

Last year he was in an Off Broadway show and his co-star quit because she couldn't handle his verbal abuse.

Shows a pattern of behavior to me.
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post #38 of 53
4/24/07 at 9:25am
It appears that Alec's politics are the determining factor as the basis on some of the posters opinions.
Also, I don't think a lawyer would condone the daughter releasing a tape since she is a minor and may not realize the repercussions of such an act. I think if
Alec were on the conservative right side of politics, these posts, so quick to condemn him, would read just the opposite.
Below is a quote from a news article where Kim claims she did not leak the tape.
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Basinger is facing trial on 12 misdemeanor counts of criminal contempt for allegedly disregarding court orders concerning Baldwin's visitation rights.
This is public record, and would lead one to believe she may have made another violation, but the facts are not all in, and I think it is obvious that both parents are at fault.
By the way, for those of you so eager to defend Kim against Alec, do you know her politics? Better check.
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post #39 of 53
4/24/07 at 9:33am
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As far as I always thought Kim was a liberal democrat also. Just not a hater.

I have nothing whatsoever against liberals, democrats, I just have something against haters.
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post #40 of 53
4/24/07 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
Nice article that expresses what I was thinking as well....

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=259626&GT1=7701&
I agree. I freely admit that when my daughter was about that age, I called HER a dirty little pig as well. Why would I do such a horrible thing?

Because she refused to use TP to wipe her behind when she went #2, and she wouldn't flush, either, which is how I knew that she wasn't using TP!

At the time, after putting myself through MUCH angst, and after she repeatedly REFUSED to clean herself properly, I decided that humiliation was the ONLY way to go - SHE had to realize that she WAS being a dirty pig!

Totally different circumstances. BUT, you cannot know what it is like to be a parent of any child in particular until you have walked at least a mile in their shoes.

And unless and until you see all the sides to the story, you really, truly can't judge. Unless you are omnipotent, and none of us are that.
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post #41 of 53
4/24/07 at 12:29pm
Like I said before, I think BOTH parents are acting like children, and IMO, neither of them should have custody of the child, until they both learn how to gorw up, and take parenting classes. This has NOTHING to do with how famous they are, or their Politics. They are both proving to be terrible parents.

I'm sure they BOTH badmouth the other parent to the child, because they hate each other so intensely these days. I'm sure also, that because Kim has custody of the girl, that the child is getting her mothers side of this, and because she is young and vulnerable, she is more than likely seeing her father through her mothers eyes. I'm sure Alec Baldwin is VERY frustrated to have all of this going on, while he is vertually helpless to have any relationship what so ever with his daughter. This is where I feel sorry for Alec Baldwin, because I KNOW from personal experience how frustrating it can be, to have someone against me, because of things that other people have said. That is NO EXCUSE for him losing his temper and cussing on her voice mail, and calling her names. That was NOT the way to handle it, and it was not the way to score any points for himself in his daughters favour.

I just try to look at things from more than one angle, and I can see how he could have lost it. Doesn't make it right, but I can see how he could have, especially with his hot explosive temper.
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post #42 of 53
4/24/07 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
Like I said before, I think BOTH parents are acting like children, and IMO, neither of them should have custody of the child, until they both learn how to gorw up, and take parenting classes. This has NOTHING to do with how famous they are, or their Politics. They are both proving to be terrible parents.

I'm sure they BOTH badmouth the other parent to the child, because they hate each other so intensely these days. I'm sure also, that because Kim has custody of the girl, that the child is getting her mothers side of this, and because she is young and vulnerable, she is more than likely seeing her father through her mothers eyes. I'm sure Alec Baldwin is VERY frustrated to have all of this going on, while he is vertually helpless to have any relationship what so ever with his daughter. This is where I feel sorry for Alec Baldwin, because I KNOW from personal experience how frustrating it can be, to have someone against me, because of things that other people have said. That is NO EXCUSE for him losing his temper and cussing on her voice mail, and calling her names. That was NOT the way to handle it, and it was not the way to score any points for himself in his daughters favour.

I just try to look at things from more than one angle, and I can see how he could have lost it. Doesn't make it right, but I can see how he could have, especially with his hot explosive temper.


I honestly don't understand how two people can go from loving each other to ... this. I know it happens -- all too often -- but I just don't understand it. I feel badly for Ireland, being caught up in the middle of all this.
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post #43 of 53
4/25/07 at 3:16am
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
, I think BOTH parents are acting like children .
I heard the tape on the news over here on monday and i couldn't agree more Hope.

The pair of them want their heads knocked together. You can tell they hate each other with a passion, but they forget theres a child caught up in the middle of their sniping
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post #44 of 53
4/25/07 at 6:32am
There is no excuse for parents to use their children as weapons. My own parents did this, when they divorced and it took me a lot of years, to get through it.
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post #45 of 53
4/25/07 at 6:57am
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Originally Posted by Essayons89 View Post
LOL...wasn't he supposed to move and live in a different country if Bush was elected president? I thought he said he would do that.

Maybe nowhere would let him in?
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post #46 of 53
4/25/07 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by gailuvscats View Post
Alec was out of line talking to his daughter like that, but worse is the fact that Kim leaked it to the news. It was to be sealed, and not made public, and she violated the order just to make him look like an ass. In the meantime, her daughter is going to be made fun of at school because the news plays it over and over, so of course everyone she knows will have heard it. How embarrasing is that for an 11 year old> As a victim of this sort of thing from my parents, I really feel for her. Both her parents are self centered and immature IMO.

No, that tape was NOT sealed and whomever did leak it was completely within their rights.

So the person who leaked it is WORSE than Alec abusing his daughter, WOW
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post #47 of 53
4/25/07 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post

So the person who leaked it is WORSE than Alec abusing his daughter, WOW
No their not, but i can see where gailuvscats is coming from, because Basinger is old enough, and big enough to know better than to do something like this, they both are infact, but it's their daughter who has to face her school friends etc...

The pair of them need mediation classes to learn how to treat each other and their daughter with respect.
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post #48 of 53
4/25/07 at 7:48am
I've overheard parents talk to their kids much worse than that in public places. No it's not right, but I agree with that article and can understand how his frustration might spill over and cause him to leave that message. Nobody is a perfect parent. The really sad thing is that it's all become public and that the relationship between him and his daughter is being played out in public instead of in private as it should be. The tape should not have been leaked to the public and if it was the child that leaked it she shouldn't have been allowed to - whoever she leaked it to should not have taken something like that from a child.
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post #49 of 53
4/25/07 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by Rosiemac View Post
No their not, but i can see where gailuvscats is coming from, because Basinger is old enough, and big enough to know better than to do something like this, they both are infact, but it's their daughter who has to face her school friends etc...

The pair of them need mediation classes to learn how to treat each other and their daughter with respect.

It is funny you should mention mediation. We have a business next door to our office that is in the mediating business. 2 women. They have got to be 2 of the most miserable women I have ever seen.

I used to bring my 20 lb poodle/Bichon mix in and they reported me and a cat found a way into our warehouse here and we kept him and got him neutered and they found out and ratted us off for that too. If those 2 women are indicative of what mediators are, I would never go to a mediator.
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post #50 of 53
4/25/07 at 11:59am
People can get Mediation from counselors. You know people in the psychiatric field or psychologists. That is the type of mediation they need. There's a world of people out there the specialize in things like this. They both NEED to know learn how to parent. It's obvious, and if the child leaked this, then it's clear that her mother had no control over her. Me, I think she did it, AT THE URGING OF HER MOTHER. What is going on here, are two adults who using this child to get back at each other. She's their weapon.

I don't think Alec Baldwin is right nor do I think he's some kind of Saint, and the same goes for Kim Bassinger. These two adults should be able to get through this Divorce like grown ups, and go on with their lives. Instead they just keep sticking it to each other, and they're using the child to do it. IMO BOTH of them are to blame. If I were a judge I would take the child away from BOTH of them, and not let either one of them have custody, until they got some counseling.
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post #51 of 53
4/25/07 at 3:33pm
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Ha ha, ha, he taped an interview with Rosie on The View to be aired Friday, he is leaving the country supposedly, AGAIN. This guy is something else.
Poor poor Alec, he can't take the pressure.

http://drudgereport.com/flash9b.htm
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post #52 of 53
4/26/07 at 7:38am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
It is funny you should mention mediation. We have a business next door to our office that is in the mediating business. 2 women. They have got to be 2 of the most miserable women I have ever seen.

I used to bring my 20 lb poodle/Bichon mix in and they reported me and a cat found a way into our warehouse here and we kept him and got him neutered and they found out and ratted us off for that too. If those 2 women are indicative of what mediators are, I would never go to a mediator.
So they are miserable because they ratted you out for having pets on premises.

What has that got to do with mediation? Have you ever participated in a mediation session?

How can you "diss" the mediation profession because they ratted you out for having pets on premises in violation of your lease?

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post #53 of 53
4/26/07 at 11:06am
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I believe the operative word in my post was "IF"
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