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Alex Baldwin at his finest. NOT

post #1 of 53
4/19/07 at 6:35pm
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This is how Alex Baldwin talks to his 11-year old daughter. I am appalled.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-b...e-to-daughter/
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post #2 of 53
4/19/07 at 9:29pm
WTH
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post #3 of 53
4/19/07 at 10:57pm
If that's true, no wonder Kim left him. The man has an anger problem the size of Nebraska.

Poor little muffin.
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post #4 of 53
4/20/07 at 12:51am
Wow... I'm shocked after reading that. Stress or no stress, there's no excuse for that.

I didn't even know Kim left him.
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post #5 of 53
4/20/07 at 3:40am
1. I think its wrong to show pictures of a celebritys child in this manner. You'd be in trouble in the UK for this

2. Please observe Alec's comment via his solicitor: "In the best interest of the child, Alec will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing ... keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order. The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order. Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years."
Sounds like a messy divorce and that Alec is in a bad situation regarding his visitation rights. Whilst I feel he has behaved badly there can really be no excuse for Kim to be using a child to court the press in such a manner
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post #6 of 53
4/20/07 at 4:45am
IF I remember correctly Alec Baldwin was going to denounce his citizenship of the United States.......IF........George Bush was re-elected during the last election. It didn't happen, but in my opinion the country would be better off without having people like him as a citizen in the first place. As for the voicemail that he left for his daughter, it is just another example of his anger-management problem. There would NEVER be a need to say such things to a child. In my opinion it is child-abuse.

Winter Hawk
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post #7 of 53
4/20/07 at 4:56am
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Originally Posted by Winter Hawk View Post
IF I remember correctly Alec Baldwin was going to denounce his citizenship of the United States.......IF........George Bush was re-elected during the last election. It didn't happen, but in my opinion the country would be better off without having people like him as a citizen in the first place. As for the voicemail that he left for his daughter, it is just another example of his anger-management problem. There would NEVER be a need to say such things to a child. In my opinion it is child-abuse.

Winter Hawk
I have never liked this pompous jerk Bless this poor girls's heart.
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post #8 of 53
4/20/07 at 5:28am
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Originally Posted by Winter Hawk View Post
IF I remember correctly Alec Baldwin was going to denounce his citizenship of the United States.......IF........George Bush was re-elected during the last election. It didn't happen, but in my opinion the country would be better off without having people like him as a citizen in the first place. As for the voicemail that he left for his daughter, it is just another example of his anger-management problem. There would NEVER be a need to say such things to a child. In my opinion it is child-abuse.

Winter Hawk
Absolutely. Everyone has problems and stress in their life. I am quite certain that this is NOT the fault of 11-year-old girls. No child - ever - should be spoken to in such a fashion - certainly not by their parent.
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post #9 of 53
4/20/07 at 5:59am
As a parent that has been forced to speak harshly to my child against MY best wishes, I have to caution people that you are only seeing ONE side of the story here, and therefore should perhaps not be so quick to judge.

I'm NOT saying he is an angel, but we are not receiving the full context here.
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post #10 of 53
4/20/07 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
As a parent that has been forced to speak harshly to my child against MY best wishes, I have to caution people that you are only seeing ONE side of the story here, and therefore should perhaps not be so quick to judge.

I'm NOT saying he is an angel, but we are not receiving the full context here.
There is NEVER a reason that can justify saying the things he said to his 11 year old daughter! It was abuse what he said. If he was upset because his daughter didnt answer a phone call, he should have cooled his head before he spoke to her. He said he was tired of being direspected not even realizing he was totally disrespecting himself.

There was a different way to handle a child not doing what he expected her to do.
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post #11 of 53
4/20/07 at 7:12am
wait why is he in new york?, thought he was leaving.
Anyway, my understanding is that it was sched apporment with a judge.
i would be will to bet that kim had something to do with it the kid not answering the phone.

how he should not have used some of the words he used(in a dream world anyway) he does need to fly out there and have conversation with her about being where she is supposed to be, at the time she is supposed to be there.
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post #12 of 53
4/20/07 at 7:16am
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Absolutely. Everyone has problems and stress in their life. I am quite certain that this is NOT the fault of 11-year-old girls.
well unless the mother tied the child down, the mother hide the cell phone,
they where in a car crash. or something else, then whose fault is it that she did not pick up the phone
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post #13 of 53
4/20/07 at 7:19am
Just a hypothetical, but...

Could it be that this type of behavior is the reason that this child doesn't want to speak to her father?

I do think it's horrible for parents to put a child in the middle of their issues, but I have say that I seriously doubt he's been an angel for the past 6 years, and Kim is just the Queen B (female dog ).
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post #14 of 53
4/20/07 at 7:29am
that could be true, but since they said on the news, it was a joint call with a judge, which was why he went off.

please note i dont like the guy, i hate him in fact,
but what mother or father have not totaly lost there cool with there kids at one point in time,,

anyway if this is normal action then i would say he can count on not having anythign to do with her when he is old and dying in the old folks home for bad actors.
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post #15 of 53
4/20/07 at 8:14am
The news I have heard said it was a court appointed call, but not with a judge, just that they had legal documents stating when he would call.

If it was a call with a judge, I can't see Kim B having to take him to court over it because any judge would have lost it on him then
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post #16 of 53
4/20/07 at 8:34am
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
well unless the mother tied the child down, the mother hide the cell phone,
they where in a car crash. or something else, then whose fault is it that she did not pick up the phone
But, all she did was not answer the phone! That's not a crime - I know I can't always answer my phone when it rings. She's 11 - she's subject to the whims of her guardians.

Someone had commented that when people are stressed in life they sometimes say things they shouldn't. My point was that no 11-year-old child can be responsible for all the stressors in her father's life that may be the underlying reasons for his anger problem. She's 11, she doesn't need to be spoken to like that - the vitriol, the name-calling - he should know better. After all, who is the adult in this relationship? I don't care what they're going through, you do NOT speak to your daughter like that for not answering a phone call!

Not only that - what kind of example does that provide her with? If her Dad can speak to her like that who's to stop her speaking that way herself?

Bruce, you would never speak to your child like that - surely. You're not disrespectful enough for that.
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post #17 of 53
4/20/07 at 8:35am
when I first heard the call, I was like, well that's not that bad, but then I heard him say how old she was and I was like
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post #18 of 53
4/20/07 at 9:32am
All I can say is I really feel for the child - for all children whose parents are "stars". What a childhood!
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post #19 of 53
4/20/07 at 10:15am
You know it seems to me that both of her parents are more concerned in coming out on top in the Divorce situation that neither of them care about their child.

It was totally wrong and abusive of Mr Baldwin for leaving such a damaging and cruel message to his daughter. I do understand that he is stressed and frustrated, but none of this is his daughters fault. That being said, I tend to believe in my heart of hearts that Kim Bassinger has also been doing and saying things to their daughter to alienate her from her father. In fact it's quite possible that she had a lot to do with why her daughter didn't take his phone call. Still there is no excuse for the names he called her, and for the cursing he used on her voice mail. I think these two grown up so called adults should leave their child out of this mess they've created. That is, if they want her to grow up mentally healthy and stable.
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post #20 of 53
4/20/07 at 11:43am
One word: Personification
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post #21 of 53
4/20/07 at 12:07pm
Actually, that probably is him at his finest. It's my understanding this guy is one piece of work.
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post #22 of 53
4/20/07 at 12:12pm
It's him. They played an edited version of the recording on our local news today. They said that Ireland wanted the tape revealed to the world, and that Kim Bassinger and her attorney are the ones who released it to the media.
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post #23 of 53
4/20/07 at 12:26pm
Ok, I don't agree with WHAT he said, BUT I remember being a smart-mouthed 11, 12, and 13 year-old girl. I know how children can be towards parents, especially if one is pitting the child against the other.

While what he said was cruel and uncalled for, I do believe if I knew the entire story in context, I'd think he would have a reason to be upset.
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post #24 of 53
4/20/07 at 1:05pm
He's never been one of my favourite people, but I do think he and Kim are both to blame for their situation. As far as what he said to his daughter, probably some of it was right on - i.e., rude, probably very spoiled and ungrateful and he may have just had enough. I think Kim has been playing the poor victim at Alec's expense for a long time because you'll hear others say he isn't at all like he is portrayed in the press. Where there's smoke, there's fire so he may well have some temper issues but IMO Kim is no better and probably instigates a lot of his anger.

It's the old story of believe 1/2 of what you see and 1/4 of what you hear.
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post #25 of 53
4/20/07 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
It's the old story of believe 1/2 of what you see and 1/4 of what you hear.
My maternal grandmother used to say something like this only it was "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear".

I too believe we will never know the whole story. And that's okay with me.

I just feel sorry for the child. Can you imagine being that age, already overly concerned about what others think and then have parents that push you and their issues into the spotlight? I would have died from embarrassment!
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post #26 of 53
4/20/07 at 4:00pm
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My maternal grandmother used to say something like this only it was "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear".

I too believe we will never know the whole story. And that's okay with me.

I just feel sorry for the child. Can you imagine being that age, already overly concerned about what others think and then have parents that push you and their issues into the spotlight? I would have died from embarrassment!
Yea, I don't buy the entire story either. Besides, there are 3 children (2 mentally, other physically) in this situation. Too bad she couldn't choose her parents.
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post #27 of 53
4/20/07 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
Just a hypothetical, but...

Could it be that this type of behavior is the reason that this child doesn't want to speak to her father?

I do think it's horrible for parents to put a child in the middle of their issues, but I have say that I seriously doubt he's been an angel for the past 6 years, and Kim is just the Queen B (female dog ).

I so agree with this. Anyone that knows anything about Alec Baldwin knows that he has terrible anger problems. The man is a HATER, pure and simple.
No one is responsible for HIS words except for him.

They played a tape tonight on the Sean Hannity show where Sean was debating Alec Baldwin and Alec Baldwin called Sean a, boob, a whore, and an ex construction worker hack. Now how immature is that? All because of differing political views.

He would be banned from this site. ha ha
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post #28 of 53
4/23/07 at 3:27pm
Nice article that expresses what I was thinking as well....

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=259626&GT1=7701&
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post #29 of 53
4/23/07 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
Nice article that expresses what I was thinking as well....

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=259626&GT1=7701&
That article does put an understanding perspective on his situation. In a way it makes me feel sorry for him. I know what he said was completely unacceptable, but he is human, and he simply lost it. I can understand his frustration.
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post #30 of 53
4/23/07 at 3:43pm
Alec was out of line talking to his daughter like that, but worse is the fact that Kim leaked it to the news. It was to be sealed, and not made public, and she violated the order just to make him look like an ass. In the meantime, her daughter is going to be made fun of at school because the news plays it over and over, so of course everyone she knows will have heard it. How embarrasing is that for an 11 year old> As a victim of this sort of thing from my parents, I really feel for her. Both her parents are self centered and immature IMO.
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