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post #31 of 41
Too be honest I can't see how she is a responsible pet owner. Given that after all the advice she is still considering bringing another cat into the house regardless of the fact that either cat could be bullied silly and may even lose it's life. I find it completely irresponsible, medical knowledge, research or not. It would be cruel to put a female cat with an intact male or another male and just assume that it can work without taking the steps needed to make it harmonious. Unfortunately this could end up in a breed of kittens that are not wanted or a poor cat being put into an unhappy home where it will be bullied and then sent back to the shelter. Some people just shouldn't have cats. I wonder why the one they have is already so stand offish, maybe they should focus on some TLC for the one they already have.
post #32 of 41
Yeah she has no knowledge medically whether she claims so or not! I despise when people don't see their pets best interest at heart! She quit the thread because she knows what we are saying is legit... A vet would tell her the same thing! Wherever she is getting her medical knowledge and "research" is obviously not from a reliable source! People like that should not have pets... You can't fix ignorance unfortunatley... Poor kitty! I fear for the kitty she plans to introduce into her already unstable household... Maybe it is a lesson she needs to learn, unfortunatley it may be at the sacrifice of an innocent kitty!
post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by Althekitty View Post
Too be honest I can't see how she is a responsible pet owner.
I have to agree with this. It is not fair or responsible to bring another cat into a home with a whole male running around. If she wants to keep the male whole he needs to have his own room and not be allowed with other cats. But I also feel that is not fair to the whole male. Even breeders neuter their whole males after a few years so they can enjoy companionship.
post #34 of 41
First of all if he's not neutered you run the risk of him getting cancer (higher then if neutered). He might not spray right now, but sooner or later he WILL - and it will not be pleasant - he will ruin your clothes, wood floors, carpet, etc.

I strongly advise you to neuter him now before you consider bringing in any other cats - cause he probably will start spraying once you bring in another. He also could change his personality to a much more loving cat if neutered.

If you get another cat, have them spayed or neutered before you bring them home. Two unneutered males will fight and both will spray and you will have a lot more problems then you can imagine. Bringing home an unspayed female will cause him to want to breed her and then that is ALL he will want once he starts.

Unless he's a pedigree cat, show quality/worthy of breeding, then he should be neutered!
post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
First of all if he's not neutered you run the risk of him getting cancer (higher then if neutered). He might not spray right now, but sooner or later he WILL - and it will not be pleasant - he will ruin your clothes, wood floors, carpet, etc.

I strongly advise you to neuter him now before you consider bringing in any other cats - cause he probably will start spraying once you bring in another. He also could change his personality to a much more loving cat if neutered.

If you get another cat, have them spayed or neutered before you bring them home. Two unneutered males will fight and both will spray and you will have a lot more problems then you can imagine. Bringing home an unspayed female will cause him to want to breed her and then that is ALL he will want once he starts.

Unless he's a pedigree cat, show quality/worthy of breeding, then he should be neutered!
We all gave her this advise and she was very offended by it, told us we were immature, and insinuated that we were ignorant. She said she is going to a mature forum for the right answer... As helpful as your post is... She won't see it!
post #36 of 41
True, after reading the entire thread, I really feel sorry for the cat. Sometimes you meet people who claim they have SOOOO much knowledge (which maybe the poster has) but appsolutly NOOOOOOOOO common sense!

I can't get thru to some neighbors who have 4 mixed breed cats - 3 males and 1 female and NONE are spayed/neutered. They refuse to do anything about it. Then complain about the males peeing. If we have to drive them anywhere (they don't have a car) we have to put towels or a blanket in the seat of the car - their clothes reek of cat pee! And that stuff doesn't come off the seats in the car!
post #37 of 41
That is a bummer... Its a simple solution to a simple problem... It's sad that some people can't see the best interest for their pets!
post #38 of 41
Ok, I know this is definatly beating a dead horse, but what's a few more swings, eh?

Calcat, if you are reading, neutering does not make his personality fake, it just quiets him down a bit, hormonally. Without all that testostrone running through his body, his mind can concentrate on other things, like possibly becoming a little more loving. Trust me, neutering doesn't always make them cuddly. My fiance's cat, Dude, got neutered as an adult if I'm not mistaken. He doesn't spray but his personality did not change in the slightest. He is wary of newcomers but doesn't actually fight. He'll hiss and swing a paw if he's aggrivated, but that is like any cat and has nothing to do with being neutered. Other than his voice being a bit higher, he didn't change. Occasionally he'll get really lovey dovey towards everyone, but after an hour or so, he gets tired of it, and walks away, just like he's always been.m e

Yes, God gave him testicles, but that doesn't mean you have to keep them. He'll be much happier for it, trust me. All of my cats that I will ever own will be neutered or spayed, unless I get a purebred cat and start showing and breeding cats, which is likely to never happen. Its just RESPONSIBLE for me to neuter and spay my cats. You say your cat will never get out. What happens if you open your front door to answer it, and he just slips right by you because outside, there is a cat in heat. You NEVER KNOW what will happen, but you could prevent a lot of things by getting him neutered.
post #39 of 41
I liken the whole "changing his personality" issue to me taking Midol for PMS. It's not changing the personality so much, as getting the hormones under control so that the real personality can come though. And in both the case of tom cats and me, that's a good thing.
post #40 of 41
I doubt Calcat is visiting us anymore...pity, as he/she may have actually enjoyed TCS, had he/she kept his/her mind open a bit. We ARE NOT a bunch of bullies...we are animal lovers, and we support responsible pet ownership, which includes altering our pets. It's always what is best in the long-run, for a host of reasons, but apparently it isn't enough to persuade this particular poster.

As for the whole "changing Cal's personality" thing goes, it's just a really weak excuse to not do something that really needs to be done. People will sometimes invent all kinds of "reasons" for not doing things, and really, they're almost always lame excuses...some better than others.

There just isn't any reason or excuse great enough to deny your pets of more longevity, comfort, and happiness. It's a shame.
post #41 of 41
My mom tried to convince me to get my kitties declawed. I explained to her firmly that I don't believe in declawing. She started giving me all these reasons why I should have it done and that it doesn't hurt them. It got me so mad. Now, that is one thing I won't ever let anyone convince me to do, but as for neutering. That is in the best interest of the animal. It doesn't really hurt them or anything.

Heck, when I had Miki spayed, the vet said "Now she's going to be a bit sleepy over the next few hours, possibly for the rest of the day. Keep her in a dark place, blah, blah blah." He went on and on about it, and when I got Miki h home, do you know what she wanted to do. Play! It was as if she had no idea what had just happened. She was walking around the house, being her normal self, getting her toys and batting them around. During the first week, we had to stop her from jumping up on things because we thought she'd hurt herself. But she paid absolutely no mind to the fact she had surgery.
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