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post #211 of 227
10/4/10 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by AddieBee View Post
From BB Wilderness to TOTW - it may be the caloric load per cup??? Or possibly TOTW has a higher carb content/ lower fat??? BB/W - More protein from animal sources??
Taste is lower in calories...390 per cup ...42 protein 18 fat
Blue Wilderness in chicken ..391 per cup...40protein 18 fat

about the same meat content also ... Taste does have More types of meat
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post #212 of 227
10/6/10 at 10:00am
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New foods on the market
Wysong has a No grain no starch.. Epigen... Great idea till I read the list of Glutens of grains...

Blue wilderness has multiple flavors

Taste of the wild added a fish flavor

Evo keeps adding new flavors
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post #213 of 227
10/6/10 at 1:14pm
are "natural flavors" a bad thing as an ingredient...I can't quite figure out exactly what it is or if it's avoidable.
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post #214 of 227
10/6/10 at 2:45pm
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are "natural flavors" a bad thing as an ingredient...I can't quite figure out exactly what it is or if it's avoidable.
Not one IMHO that is good.. as it can be msg , digest or many other not so desirable things
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post #215 of 227
10/6/10 at 4:22pm
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Not one IMHO that is good.. as it can be msg , digest or many other not so desirable things
Thanks! The innova evo dry has "natural flavors" as an ingredient which i was surprised to see. I went out this evening and the Evo dry 15lb bag was about $40 and TOTW was about $27.

I ended up going with Evo. TOTW was only available in the fish formula...my cats have never had a problem with fish but I don't know if it's best to avoid for all cats or just ones with problems. For the price difference, I may get the TOTW if they are comparable in quality.

On Evo's website it says the calorie content is 130 g = 1 cup. What does that mean? BBW and TOTW were much higher. Thanks again for the great info!
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post #216 of 227
10/6/10 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by 2coolCats View Post
Thanks! The innova evo dry has "natural flavors" as an ingredient which i was surprised to see. I went out this evening and the Evo dry 15lb bag was about $40 and TOTW was about $27.

I ended up going with Evo. TOTW was only available in the fish formula...my cats have never had a problem with fish but I don't know if it's best to avoid for all cats or just ones with problems.

On Evo's website it says the calorie content is 130 g = 1 cup. What does that mean? BBW and TOTW were much higher. Thanks again for the great info!
roughly 28-30 grams to an ounce so that means in a cup there is roughly 4.5 to 4.75 oz of food... Grain-Free Dry Cat Foods:
Listed in descending order of kcals/cup
kcal/cup
EVO Cat & Kitten 602 calories per cup

http://www.evopet.com/images/EVO-GRAIN-FREE-LEADER.pdf page 7
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post #217 of 227
10/6/10 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
roughly 28-30 grams to an ounce so that means in a cup there is roughly 4.5 to 4.75 oz of food... Grain-Free Dry Cat Foods:
Listed in descending order of kcals/cup
kcal/cup
EVO Cat & Kitten 602 calories per cup

http://www.evopet.com/images/EVO-GRAIN-FREE-LEADER.pdf page 7
Thanks lol I was reading their website way wrong. I feel much better seeing the 602 number. I think the bag will last longer than what i'm used to. I was hesitant to try the EVO dry but doing some reading online i feel a lot better. I hope they like it!!
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post #218 of 227
10/7/10 at 9:35am
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Thanks lol I was reading their website way wrong. I feel much better seeing the 602 number. I think the bag will last longer than what i'm used to. I was hesitant to try the EVO dry but doing some reading online i feel a lot better. I hope they like it!!
I use to feed EVO but with the calories being so high, Tessie was getting heavy and when I would feed her less EVO she would always be hungry.
Just be careful how much you feed especially if your only feeding dry.
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post #219 of 227
10/7/10 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
Taste is lower in calories...390 per cup ...42 protein 18 fat
Blue Wilderness in chicken ..391 per cup...40protein 18 fat

about the same meat content also ... Taste does have More types of meat
Blue Wilderness chicken has 45 Protein .
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post #220 of 227
10/7/10 at 12:48pm
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Blue Wilderness chicken has 45 Protein .
It may or may not.. I used the link off the site
http://bluebuffalo.com/products/cats...-cat-dry.shtml

Let see I have a bag of it.. My bag which I got about a week ago also says 40and 18... Remember formulas change all the time... Perhaps the % s changed when they reformulated
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post #221 of 227
10/7/10 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by ~*Regina*~ View Post
I use to feed EVO but with the calories being so high, Tessie was getting heavy and when I would feed her less EVO she would always be hungry.
Just be careful how much you feed especially if your only feeding dry.
I'll keep that in mind. I have one 15lb little boy and I'm trying to get him to lose weight so I'll keep an eye on it. they are on half wet and half dry....usually 3oz of wet and 1/4 cup of dry.
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post #222 of 227
10/11/10 at 9:56pm
grumble grumble grumble....

I'm not really impressed with Innova Evo dry...it's "crumbly" for starters which leads to a lot of dust at the bottom.

And I *think* I may have a kitty who is allergic...after a few meals I noticed one cat has a few patches of hair missing on his tail. This is the only thing that has changed so I'm trying to figure out what is new in the Evo dry that wasn't in Blue Buffalo Wilderness, Wellness Core or TOTW that may have caused an allergic reaction. He's going to the vet tomorrow, hopefully they can tell. I thought at first that maybe there was a cat fight with the other cat but looking at his tail, there are no scratch or bite marks and he doesn't seem to be sensitive to touch in the area where the hair is gone.

Innova has a return policy but of course I dumped the food out of the bag into my own airtight container. 15lbs of expensive cat food...my neighbor has a ton of outdoor cats, Christmas may come a little early for them this year.

I am seriously thinking about making this my last bag of dry altogether. I could more than afford all wet if i didnt buy dry....though i really hope kitty isnt allergic and i can finish this bag
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post #223 of 227
10/11/10 at 11:06pm
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Which EVO ?? Wilderness seems a bit simpliar in ingrediants ... Core and Taste I think have less white potato
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post #224 of 227
10/12/10 at 6:32am
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Which EVO ?? Wilderness seems a bit simpliar in ingrediants ... Core and Taste I think have less white potato
It's the Turkey & Chicken formula. I'm assuming the vet can run some type of test to determine an allergy?? He seems to be fine otherwise, normal litter box activity, normal behavior on the outside, so I'm having a hard time coming up with what it could be other than the food.
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post #225 of 227
10/12/10 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by 2coolCats View Post
It's the Turkey & Chicken formula. I'm assuming the vet can run some type of test to determine an allergy?? He seems to be fine otherwise, normal litter box activity, normal behavior on the outside, so I'm having a hard time coming up with what it could be other than the food.
traditional skin and blood allergy tests are not great at detecting .. ie many times they miss the issue
elimination is the best way...
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post #226 of 227
10/12/10 at 12:05pm
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It may or may not.. I used the link off the site
http://bluebuffalo.com/products/cats...-cat-dry.shtml

Let see I have a bag of it.. My bag which I got about a week ago also says 40and 18... Remember formulas change all the time... Perhaps the % s changed when they reformulated
Sorry Sharky, I must have an older bag.
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post #227 of 227
10/12/10 at 4:26pm
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traditional skin and blood allergy tests are not great at detecting .. ie many times they miss the issue
elimination is the best way...
Vet didn't think it was a food allergy. He noted that usually with a food allergy there will be some signs on the face. He did say that a cat in heat will often chew her tail but that's never happened before. I think I'm going to try to introduce it again post-spay to see if there is another reaction.
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