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post #1 of 227
4/18/07 at 8:49am
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THIS IS not completed
Serengiti
http://timberwolforganics.com/s.nl/i...&category=-102


Wellness Core
http://www.oldmotherhubbard.com/well..._dry_core.html

EVo
http://www.evopet.com/products/default.asp?id=1500


Raw Instict

http://www.naturesvariety.com/conten...920DjOQoE2A93B

Orijen... THIS IS UTI friendly
http://www.championpetfoods.com/orij...tAnalysis.aspx
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post #2 of 227
4/18/07 at 8:50am
Are any of the others besides Orijen UTI friendly? I desperately need one for 3 of mine....they won't eat their wet & I am not opening the new 20 lbs. bag of MAX cat, I actually want to return it.
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post #3 of 227
4/18/07 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Are any of the others besides Orijen UTI friendly? I desperately need one for 3 of mine....they won't eat their wet & I am not opening the new 20 lbs. bag of MAX cat, I actually want to return it.
I beleive TRU said Sergetti has the stuff in uti gel in it so it may also be an option...
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post #4 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
I beleive TRU said Sergetti has the stuff in uti gel in it so it may also be an option...
Actually EVO and Raw Instinct have methionine as well...however saying that those 2 are UTI friendly kind of contradicts some things I have heard. What would you say Sharky?

I'm not sure of the varying amounts in each one, though.
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post #5 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:11am
I think the EVO & ash level....that one concerns me. But, honestly, EVO is the only one I can get locally. And I need cat food TODAY! Here is the link to EVO.
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post #6 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:19am
Yeah, you're right about the ash. Core looks a lot better at 7.62% ...but as you said, you can only get the EVO locally.

Have you talked to the vet and/or looked into the gel acidifier for them?
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post #7 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:22am
Core is hard to come across and the ingredients are a bit meh compared to EVOs. I have a bag at home and some small sample bags, and am going to use it in rotation with the others, but Orijen seems to be top of the pick list in taste for all of my four
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post #8 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by beandip View Post
Have you talked to the vet and/or looked into the gel acidifier for them?
I have to order it online from someplace, the vet recommended Drs. Foster & Smith. But....then I have to get it in Ophelia. I hardly make it through twice daily pilling alive. And I finally built up Molly's trust to the point that I can pet her without being bit. I just do not think that those would be good things to ruin with medicine. I tried hiding hairball meds in canned food once & they knew, too.
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post #9 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:40am
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I am going to defer your question Chloe as I am unsure if an acidfier would do the trick... I was told that UTI is the only problem the two vets I work with dont recommend EVO
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post #10 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:46am
Thanks for the links!! I did find EVO and I was estatic to see there are grain-free dry foods out there.....but didn't know there was even as many as you posted. Now...to FIND them!!

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #11 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:55am
I just gave the three UTI kitties some Raw Instinct. They were so excited my hand is now ripped up. They got to the bowls & looked at me like "what is the junk!?!? :onfire" Now I'm going to wait them out until they eat.
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post #12 of 227
4/18/07 at 9:57am
I have some of the M&C UTI paste for cats. Many of my cats like it and lick it right up. Of course the only one that doesn't seem to like it is the one that needs it so I have gone back to giving him the Carpon.

In regards to the grain free foods and urinary tract health, both Orijen and Serengeti claim their food is designed for good urinary health for cats. Both have cranberries and blueberries in the ingredients for that purpose.

My opinion is that the Serengeti may be better because of having the DL Methionine in it where the Orijen doesn't.

In taste tests with my little crew of 19, some seem to prefer the Serengeti, some the Orijen and they all seem to prefer the Max Cat Adult that I've been mixing with.

As far as what's healthy.......... WHO THE HECK KNOWS?!?!
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post #13 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
I am going to defer your question Chloe as I am unsure if an acidfier would do the trick... I was told that UTI is the only problem the two vets I work with dont recommend EVO
Yeah, true...it would only do the trick if they were getting UTIs because of a pH issue...I'm only fighting pH here, bacteria has only been the byproduct of very bad episodes, in our case. Other cats are different, though. What a nightmare.

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I just gave the three UTI kitties some Raw Instinct. They were so excited my hand is now ripped up. They got to the bowls & looked at me like "what is the junk!?!? :onfire" Now I'm going to wait them out until they eat.
No way!! You tell them that my cats eat that stuff up!!

The crumbs make a good topper for their least favorite canned flavors.
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post #14 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:06am
The store that we buy our food at carries Wellness Core, Raw Instinct and EVO...which is the best choice?
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post #15 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by kittiesx2 View Post
The store that we buy our food at carries Wellness Core, Raw Instinct and EVO...which is the best choice?
I think that depends on your kitties. Whichever one they will do best on. I believe it was said that Core isn't "the best" of the grain frees....

Raw Instinct is very "crumbly" whereas EVO is round kibble. Maybe pick one that the kits would prefer the kibble texture of?
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post #16 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:19am
The crumbly texture put mine off it and I find I waste a lot of food because they will not eat the crumbs so am better off with a harder kibble type rather than something crumbly
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post #17 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:20am
LOL! Now it is confusing picking something "ok" !
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post #18 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by carrie640 View Post
LOL! Now it is confusing picking something "ok" !
I guess, IMO, Innova EVO would be the best way to go. My three UTI kitties are begging for something edible, not the Raw Instinct!
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post #19 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
I think that depends on your kitties. Whichever one they will do best on. I believe it was said that Core isn't "the best" of the grain frees....

Raw Instinct is very "crumbly" whereas EVO is round kibble. Maybe pick one that the kits would prefer the kibble texture of?
Thanks I'll check and see if they have some samples for my cats to try. Diesel is almost entirely on raw now and Tucker's my picky one so I'll let him decide.
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post #20 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
I guess, IMO, Innova EVO would be the best way to go. My three UTI kitties are begging for something edible, not the Raw Instinct!
I'm guessing that'll probably be his choice too Not sure how he'd feel about crumbs
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post #21 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:46am
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The crumbly texture put mine off it and I find I waste a lot of food because they will not eat the crumbs so am better off with a harder kibble type rather than something crumbly
At first that was the case with mine, but I have since become a "mean meowmy" and will not fill their bowl with dry again until they have gotten through the majority of the crumbs. (Within a short period of time, I'm not THAT mean, and I sure don't want my babies to go hungry!)

It's working. And I am no longer throwing away too much of the crumbles.
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post #22 of 227
4/18/07 at 10:56am
Dory is not impressed with the Raw Instinct. He was so not impressed, he decided to pee on the food in the bowls! Not just one bowl of food, but all 3! That little piddler....
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post #23 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:05am
Sharky, please please shoot a PM my way if you find something light on veggies! I'd like to have a dry I can rotate in for the other 2 that I don't need to worry a ton about Raphie getting some. You're wonderful! thanks for the list!
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post #24 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Dory is not impressed with the Raw Instinct. He was so not impressed, he decided to pee on the food in the bowls! Not just one bowl of food, but all 3! That little piddler....
Oh my! My two like it like candy - tell Dory I'm very sorry to have suggested that brand!
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post #25 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Dory is not impressed with the Raw Instinct. He was so not impressed, he decided to pee on the food in the bowls! Not just one bowl of food, but all 3! That little piddler....
Oh no....at least if mine don't like something they just walk away.
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post #26 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Oh my! My two like it like candy - tell Dory I'm very sorry to have suggested that brand!
Oh it didn't shock me. Mr. I Pee on Raw Medallions peed on dry food....it's not a stretch! Seems like when he doesn't like something....he uses it as a LB!
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post #27 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:15am
I also bought yesterday a small bag of Wellness Core
and the Innova EVO since they are pretty much eating the EVO one, I guess there is no need to open the Wellness Core, huh..
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post #28 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Oh it didn't shock me. Mr. I Pee on Raw Medallions peed on dry food....it's not a stretch! Seems like when he doesn't like something....he uses it as a LB!
That's funny! I guess that Dory just has strong opinions when it comes to his food
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post #29 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Dory is not impressed with the Raw Instinct. He was so not impressed, he decided to pee on the food in the bowls! Not just one bowl of food, but all 3! That little piddler....
ok I wouldn't be laughing so much if one of mine did it but

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Originally Posted by beandip View Post
Oh no....at least if mine don't like something they just walk away.
thats what mine do too, with the exception of Boomer who sends the bowl flying across the room
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post #30 of 227
4/18/07 at 11:29am
I'll trade ya Dory for Booms!

After the whole raw fiasco with Dory...I was not overly shocked. I have now tried mixing in some treats to see if they'll eat the Raw Instinct. Molly is meowing as though all 15 lbs. of her is wasting away...
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