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post #31 of 42
IMO other then getting into fights with the neighborhood cats, you really do run the risk of FELV and FIP - you never know who your cat is hanging around with if they are unsupervised outside during the day or nite.
post #32 of 42
I vote for the cat flap in the window. Because that is so cool! Whether you get another cat or not. I am not of the opinion that indoor cats are any more bored than outdoor cats. Of course if you are willing to keep them both inside-only if you get two, do that!

It is easy and cheap and I do think (though I too am an indoor-only person) that if you let cats outside they have to be able to get back inside at any time, without even waiting for someone to open the door. One of their main defenses is just being able to run faster than other animals, but they can't run forever!

I don't think you need to buy a whole new door! That is a lot of money when there is a much easier and cheaper solution. Even so you can try it the other way and if it doesn't work move on to the door.
post #33 of 42
They have actually come out with a new product for just the reasons you have explained. There is a "cat box" that fits in a window just like a window AC would. There is a ledge on either side so the cat can jump up and go threw a cat flap inside of the box. This is a great idea for people who don't want the hassel of cutting up a door.

one style, you can find simular at a farm store.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...3474&subref=AA
post #34 of 42
We had an indoor/outdoor cat when I was growing up. My mother never worked so all day she played "let the cat out/let the cat in". However, when we went somewhere she always made sure the cat was in the house before we left.

I understand indoor/outdoor is the norm where you are at -- but my vote would be to definately keep kitty inside while you are not home. Then at least you have peace of mind that your cat is safe while you are at work.
post #35 of 42
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Originally Posted by Althekitty View Post
We are lucky to not have racoons....
Funny you should mention that! I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, in the city, and I still can't get over the nights I've seen Raccoons and Possums eating the cat food I left for the strays that live in the alley behind me. The raccoons scare the cats away, however the possums don't seem to be much of a threat.

One other time, early morning, I walked out to my car to head off to work, and out of a garbage can popped a raccoon! Scared the life out of me!

Weird...
post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by EnzoLeya View Post
They have actually come out with a new product for just the reasons you have explained. There is a "cat box" that fits in a window just like a window AC would. There is a ledge on either side so the cat can jump up and go threw a cat flap inside of the box. This is a great idea for people who don't want the hassel of cutting up a door.

one style, you can find simular at a farm store.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...3474&subref=AA
oo I really like that window cat-flap - but when it mentioned first floor, that really worried me, but then I realised you guys call what we call the ground floor the first floor - right I couldn't imagine a cat jumping down so far from what we call a 1st floor level

that could be a good option, not sure if they sell in UK or if this company ships without too much added cost.
post #37 of 42
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Originally Posted by AlleyGirl View Post
I have lost too many cats from being outside, due to disease or accidents. I personally will not ever let another cat outside.

What she said. I know many people who have lost their cats from being outside, including me. My cats are indoor cats and I will never have an outdoor cat again.

Too much h eart break and tears.

It would take another thread to tell you all the stories about cats being outside.

Give the kitty a TV: bird house, feeder, flowers and window. Keeps my cats busy for hours on end.
post #38 of 42
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Originally Posted by deljo View Post
If I lived in the country I would let my two out. Since I'm a city dweller, they stay in the house. I wouldn't want anything to happen to them and I'm not supposed to have cats anyway and all my neighbors would see them. I feel bad at times because I know they are missing part of their life. By the way, they were both outdoor kitties when I adopted them and adjusted very well.

Being in the country is worse! There are dogs that prowl, fox, bear, more fleas. A pack of dogs got my beautiful, long-hair calico, her name was Princess. I still have a hole in my and this happened 9 years ago.
post #39 of 42
I have never let my cats outside, with the exception of my Bert going out on the deck for a few minutes. There are many reasons to keep cats indoors, but seeing as I have never been to the UK, I cannot start arguing, so here are my suggestions:

Get another cat as a playmate, but still keep them in during the day. I would hate for something to happen and you wouldn't be there to get her to a vet, etc.

Let them out when you are home, and keep them in when gone. Even if my cats were let outside, I can't imagine going to sleep not knowing where they are.

As far as male or female for a playmate. I have a mix of 3 girls and 3 boys, and they all seem to coexist happliy, although the boys are a little more apt to welcome new cats than the girls, but, your cat is young, and I'm sure another female cat of the same age would be fine.
post #40 of 42
I have let all my cats have outdoor access - they are allowed out before I go to work, in for the day, then allowed out again when I get home. I dont like them beign out if I am not around in case anything did happen to them, only Ginger had that privilege - not only had he lived as a stray for 3 years so was streetwise enough, he also had the neighbours house to go in when I Was at work. I have the occasional issue when they decide they should be going out as I am, but they aren't allowed and accept it. I can't have a catflap due to other cats and fostering but not sure i would want one anyway. Good luck in your choice.
post #41 of 42
my cats got to go outside when we had an apartment that was an old house converted to apartments. we had the back apartment with a patio & grassy yard. it was in a safe neighborhood, not a lot of roaming critters or fast cars. raven and nabu got to go out on leashes and harnesses and they loved it. those were pre-stimpy days. we haven't had an apartment like that since, so they haven't gotten to enjoy that for years. they really liked it though. my MIL did that with her previous cat, too. the town she lives in, and we used to, required cats be on leashes and licensed. it was pretty strictly enforced. although there were still roaming housecats anyway.

my parents have indoor/outdoor cats, and have lost a few. i prefer the leash and harness method. or even better and outdoor enclosure, but that's really only an option for homeowners. i've thought about the portable outdoor enclosures for our balcony, but the balcony is so small i don't think it would work out.
post #42 of 42
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Originally Posted by littleraven7726 View Post
my cats got to go outside when we had an apartment that was an old house converted to apartments. we had the back apartment with a patio & grassy yard. it was in a safe neighborhood, not a lot of roaming critters or fast cars. raven and nabu got to go out on leashes and harnesses and they loved it. those were pre-stimpy days. we haven't had an apartment like that since, so they haven't gotten to enjoy that for years. they really liked it though. my MIL did that with her previous cat, too. the town she lives in, and we used to, required cats be on leashes and licensed. it was pretty strictly enforced. although there were still roaming housecats anyway.

my parents have indoor/outdoor cats, and have lost a few. i prefer the leash and harness method. or even better and outdoor enclosure, but that's really only an option for homeowners. i've thought about the portable outdoor enclosures for our balcony, but the balcony is so small i don't think it would work out.
Your post made me think back....when I was little and had cats. My mom and my gramma were NOT into cats so much, hated them inside (my gram about freaked when she found out I sneaked the kitties in my room at night hahah)....and as a result my childhood cats were indoor/outdoor.

I lost a couple--one just never came home, and one was hit by a car (we lived on a quiet side street but Muffin managed to make it all the way down to the main intersection--never underestimate where these cats will wander!)

One of my in/out cats, Clyde, my BESTEST ()friend , lived a solid and happy 15 yrs. And cancer was the taker. I miss him to this day

Eventually, as I became more animal-aware, and worked in animal care, I finally converted my mom more to my thinking about indoor cats, nutrition, etc. She got a Ragdoll mix for my sister....prettiest little thing. We trained her on a leash so she could go outside with us and sit in the sun, chew some grass, chase a bug (I do love to see cats enjoy nature too!) And Nikki did great on the leash. My mom was so happy!

The tragedy was Nikki had a sneaky/deadly arrhythmia ... probably a genetic anomaly. She died in her sleep before a year old. Cruel stuff.

Where am I going here...(sorry!)....

Oh...my point being that despite being an indoor cat advocate, there are ways to allow your cat to get some outdoor time, safely. It's fun to watch their instinctual behaviors come out, moreso than you see inside (even when you try to make little hunting games and whatnot).

Currently we are in a more country like setting--no main streets, no traffic, but I also keep in mind the woods (critters, ticks, etc..) Both rural/city settings have their own brand of dangers. I definitely prefer the rural setting It's quite the norm here to have outdoor cats (or both out and in)--and they are doted upon! Lots of barn cats too (barn cats are a totally different species, lol, who have their own way of living--it's not so bad, actually).

Mine are indoor out of personal preference, aside from a momentary roll in the grass. But it's not a one size fits all
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