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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
does anyone know the magnesium content in this dry food? I like the ingredients better in this one rather than the pro plan unrinary formula, but the bag doesn't list the magnesium. also looked at the Royal Canin Special 33, which had mag. max .085% I think. The pro plan is .075% Is that really so much better than the royal canin or the natures recipe. Both have better ingredients than the pro plan
post #2 of 13
Nature s recipe has digest which falls under by product IMHO oh and never understand the need for corn and corn gluten in the same formula... The Nutro get s my vote then Royal canin... Yes they have higher mag but they are in the UTI range of .09 and under ( .085 and under prefered)
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
well, after reading a lot about nutro, I pretty much think I'm never going to feed anything made by them again...so I need another alternative. So you would go with the royal canin before the pro plan and the natures recipe? How do you feel about the pro plan?
post #4 of 13
Well I am not using any purina since They are building a plant in China ...
but pro plan is decent ... You said you wanted Super premium which is Nutro or Royal canin

I will go get ingrediants

pro plan link
http://www.proplan.com/product_detail.aspx?pid=117

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (Min.) 31.0%
Crude Fat (Min.) 14.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 2.0%
Moisture (Max.) 10.0%
Ash (Max.) 6.2%
Linoleic Acid (Min.) 1.6%
Calcium (Ca) (Min.) 0.7%
Phosphorus (P) (Min.) 0.6%
Magnesium (Mg) (Max.) 0.075%



Ingredients:
Corn gluten mealdont mind as an accessory protein but not first , chickenAfter cooking this is around the egg product in wt ... meal is better , wheat flourallergy potential, brewers ricelow end rice fragment, ground yellow cornnot great in digestability , animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E)Whose fat, egg product, sodium caseinate, phosphoric acid, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, animal digestlook it up, salt, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, dried whey, choline chloride, dicalcium phosphate, taurine, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, niacin, citric acid, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantotheante, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite.
O-4625
Most of the vitamins are sythentic ... overall decent

Royal canin
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/p...d_id=208&Page=
Ingredients:
Chicken Meal, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols and rosemary extract and citric acid), rice,corn gluten meal I okay this as it balences the chn , corncorn and corn gluten dont need to be in same formula, chicken, natural chicken flavor, wheat glutennormally not an issue BUT,beet pulp, dried brewers yeast, salmon oil, dried egg powder, soya oil, pea fiber, chicory extract, potassium chloride, calcium sulfate, sodium silico aluminate, DL-methionine, choline chloride, L-lysine, sodium chloride, sodium tripolyphosphate, taurine, Vitamins (di-alpha tocopherol (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), niacin, biotin, riboflavin (vitamin B2), d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin A acetate, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid), Trace minerals (zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganese proteinate, manganese oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate).

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Crude Protein (minimum) 33
Crude Fat (minimum) 22
Moisture (maximum) 9
Omega 6 Fatty Acid 5.45
Crude Fiber (maximum) 4.1

mostly natural viatimins

Nutro indoor adult
http://www.nutroproducts.com/ncccia.asp

Ingredients
Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Rice Flournot sure why so many amounts of rice, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Flaxseed Meal, Tomato Pomace, Brewers Dried Yeast, Natural Flavors, Dried Beet Pulp, Mixed Vegetable Fiber (carrots, celery, beets, parsley, lettuce, watercress and spinach), Potassium Chloride, Menhaden Fish Oil, Oat Fiber,[color="SandyBrown"] Soy Protein Concentrate[/COLORNot my fav since many are allergic], Cranberry Powder, Choline Chloride, Taurine, DL-Methionine, Vitamin E Supplement, Dried Egg Product, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), L-Carnitine, Inositol, Dried Bacillus Licheniformis Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Lutein, Dried Chicory Root, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Niacin, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin A Supplement, Garlic Flavor, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B-2), Beta-Carotene, Calcium Iodate, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B-1), Lycopene, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite.
Nutro supports the safe, ethical and humane treatment of all animals, including those used by our suppliers who provide our ingredients.

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (min.) 33.00%
Crude Fat (min.) 14.00%
Crude Fiber (max.) 4.00%
Moisture (max.) 10.00%
Ash (max.) 7.25%
Linoleic Acid (min.) 4.00%
Calcium (min.) 0.90%
Phosphorus (min.) 0.80%
Magnesium (max.) 0.085%
Iron (min.) 200 mg/kg
Manganese (min.) 35 mg/kg
Zinc (min.) 250 mg/kg
Vitamin D (min.) 1,200 IU/kg
Vitamin E (min.) 250 IU/kg
Taurine (min.) 0.20%
Ascorbic Acid (min.)* 50 mg/kg
Linolenic Acid (min).* 0.80%
Beta-Carotene (min.)* 3.2 mg/kg
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) (min.)* 0.06%
L-Carnitine (min.)* 150 mg/kg
Lutein (min.)* 50 mg/kg

*Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Cat Food Nutrient Profiles.

another mix of natural and synthetic viatamins
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
just noticed the Royal Canin Special 33 has wheat gluten in it...should I just stick with the nutro?
post #6 of 13
I would ... My little girl is still eating her Nutro dry as it CONTAINS No wheat or wheat gluten/// My dog was eating her Nutro dry but came up allergic to the sun and moon
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
which nutro do you use? I bought the inoor adult, only .085%...I think the max cat was a little higher
post #8 of 13
Natural choice reg is higher ... max adult is the same

Zoey eats Kitten for the protein leval natural choice
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
just found this

Fromm Duck a la veg:

Ingrediants:
Duck, Duck Meal, Pearled Barley, White Rice, Sweet Potato, Whole Dried Egg, Chicken Broth, Dried Tomato Pomace, Turkey Liver, Safflower Oil, Salmon Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), Potato, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Flaxseed, Carrots, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Apples, Green Beans, Lecithin, Chicken Cartilage, DL-Methionine, Potassium Chloride, Cranberries, Blueberries, Salt, Chicory Root Extract, Alfalfa Sprouts, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Folic Acid, Parsley, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Bifidobacterium Longum, Enterococcous Faecium, Vitamin A, D3, E, B12 Supplements, Choline Bitartrate, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Cobalt Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Sorbic Acid, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite.


Typical analysis:
Typical Analysis
Calcium 1.0%
Phosphorus 0.8%
Sodium 0.5%
Potassium 0.6%
Magnesium 0.08%
Zinc 109 mg/kg
Iron 211 mg/kg
Manganese 61 mg/kg
Copper 12.3 mg/kg
Cobalt 0.4 mg/kg
Iodine 1.53 mg/kg
Selenium 0.51 mg/kg
Vitamin A 17,400 IU/kg
Vitamin D 1,300 IU/kg
Vitamin E 140 IU/kg
Vitamin K 1.60 mg/kg
Vitamin B12 0.11 mg/kg
Choline Chloride 2,500 mg/kg
Niacin 99 mg/kg
Pantothenic Acid 25 mg/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vit C) 24 mg/kg
Riboflavin 7.8 mg/kg
Thiamine 6.3 mg/kg
Pyridoxine 5.0 mg/kg
Folic Acid 1.3 mg/kg
Biotin 0.3 mg/kg
Linoleic Acid 3.9%
Linolenic Acid 0.6%
Arachidonic Acid 500 mg/kg
Carbohydrates 36.8%


What do you think? Seriously, you're being a huge help...this sucks.
post #10 of 13
Overall it is a good food ... I noted a few areas /// It is VERY GRAIN heavy /// I like one meat to one grain ... this has one and half meats( including the liver) to five grain or react like grains .... so it is a one meat to 3.1 grains


Quote:
Originally Posted by fosterkitty View Post
just found this

Fromm Duck a la veg:

Ingrediants:
Duck, Duck MealGood meat but many cant handle it too rich , Pearled Barleywheats twin , White Rice, Sweet Potato, Whole Dried EggDont like the whole egg as the white can be a botin issue, Chicken Broth, Dried Tomato Pomace, Turkey LiverI avoid organs in dry food , Safflower Oil, Salmon Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), Potato, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Flaxseed, Carrots, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Apples, Green Beans, Lecithin, Chicken Cartilagenone of mine that eat raw will eat cartilage, DL-Methionine, Potassium Chloride, Cranberries, Blueberries, Salt, Chicory Root Extract, Alfalfa Sprouts, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Folic Acid, Parsley, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Bifidobacterium Longum, Enterococcous Faecium, Vitamin A, D3, E, B12 Supplements, Choline Bitartrate, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Cobalt Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Sorbic Acid, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite.


Typical analysis:
Typical Analysis
Calcium 1.0%
Phosphorus 0.8%
Sodium 0.5%
Potassium 0.6%
Magnesium 0.08%
Zinc 109 mg/kg
Iron 211 mg/kg
Manganese 61 mg/kg
Copper 12.3 mg/kg
Cobalt 0.4 mg/kg
Iodine 1.53 mg/kg
Selenium 0.51 mg/kg
Vitamin A 17,400 IU/kg
Vitamin D 1,300 IU/kg
Vitamin E 140 IU/kg
Vitamin K 1.60 mg/kg
Vitamin B12 0.11 mg/kg
Choline Chloride 2,500 mg/kg salt based but this helps with smell
Niacin 99 mg/kg
Pantothenic Acid 25 mg/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vit C) 24 mg/kg
Riboflavin 7.8 mg/kg
Thiamine 6.3 mg/kg
Pyridoxine 5.0 mg/kg
Folic Acid 1.3 mg/kg
Biotin 0.3 mg/kg
Linoleic Acid 3.9%
Linolenic Acid 0.6%

Arachidonic Acid 500 mg/kg
Carbohydrates 36.8% this is good but alot of protein is from grains or grain like( flax , potatos )


What do you think? Seriously, you're being a huge help...this sucks.
Anytime I will try to help...
post #11 of 13
sharky, just wondering why you highlighted the calcium in the Fromm's analysis? Is that a bad level?

Would this maybe be a good dry food that I could try for my kitty that is prone to crystals & currently on prescription CD? Magnesium is the same / phosphorus is higher (0.4% in CD), and I didn't see the ash level listed.

It has dl-methionine (which I was recommended to give), cranberries, and blueberries - all of which are good for urinary health.

I was actually wanting to find a good food that I could maybe mix in with his CD. I can't find a premium wet food that he will eat. Only Fancy Feast & Friskies pouches for him. I worry every day that they are going to come out as part of the recall (all have wheat gluten) - but he needs the wet food for extra water intake.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
what do you guys think of life's abundance?
post #13 of 13
I like Nutro and the Frromms over lifes abundence

The calcium is the HIGHEST you would want .. and I highlighted as it doesnt say min or max... that is the MAX you want

Check with the vet but as long as your okay with the grain heavyness it looks fine to me
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