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This article was in the Wall Street Journal today.
Its says that tainted food products from China are a growing problem as the country becomes a bigger player in the growing global food chain. Chemical use high and regs are lex. The US FDA is only able to check a very smalll amount.
The wheat gluten contaminated with melamine which we know now is used as a fertilizer in asia.
Many countries have found and rejected Chinese food exports as they contained banned antibiotics, pesticides and other items.
China has one of the world's highest rates of chemical fertilizer use per hectare and their farmers use many highly toxic persticides included ones that are banned in the US.
Last month alone the FDA banned 215 shipments for various reasons.
China last year acounted for 12% of the global trade in fruits and vegetables challenging the US producers in three areas Apple juice, fresh apples and fresh vegetables. in which the US is China's largest market for apple juice.
As for wheat gluten-exports frok China have been brisk and demand exceeds supply. Wheat gluten is exported to several countries to include Australia, India, Italy and Russia (besides the US).

So personally I can going to become more alert as to where some of the food I consume comes from-one local large grocer sells frozen vegetables from China-its not going in my freezer.
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You know as well as I do - no one is really monitoring them, and it's all about money to them - get the largest yield no matter what you have to use to do so. And then we wonder why American farmers are going broke.

Gail, I completely agree that I won't knowingly purchase food from China, but the problem comes with purchasing food that contains ingredients from China that we don't know about. Like, for instance, the pet food. Heck, I didn't even think that the FDA allowed imports from such an unregulated country directly into the US, but obviously they do. And it IS much cheaper to buy from them than interstate because of all the regulations we have in place to keep our food supply as untainted as possible.
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I love the way the FDA is protecting us and our pets. NOT
It is infuriating to me.
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I love the way the FDA is protecting us and our pets. NOT
It is infuriating to me.
The FDA is not authorized to regulate pet food (yet) so this mess really cannot be blamed on them.
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The FDA is not authorized to regulate pet food (yet) so this mess really cannot be blamed on them.

Very true but three entitys of govt shouldnt be running the same show as far as pet food...

The FDA cant keep humans safe so I have little hope in them keeping animals safe...

Gotta love free trade ... the protesters were so RIGHT
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lol of all the places china should not be sending any food overseas.
I still have some stuff at home that the chinese govt put out on how to cook rats.
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Right now I am trying to read labels and avoid everything i can that has anything to do with China. I do not want a communist country like china benifiting from my money. That being said- i'm sure there are things that i have unknowingly bought from them- it is hard to know where EVERY single ingredient comes from- it's frusterating. I definitely do not want to support China or any other country like that. I feel more comfortable buying food/other things from free countries only that have regulations/etc. That being said, the US is definitely not perfect though
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I still have some stuff at home that the chinese govt put out on how to cook rats.
Vietnam did, too. As I remember it, too many Vietnamese were eating cats, which led to a major rodent plague, so the government urged people to eat rats. rather than cats.

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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
Right now I am trying to read labels and avoid everything i can that has anything to do with China. I do not want a communist country like china benifiting from my money. That being said- i'm sure there are things that i have unknowingly bought from them- it is hard to know where EVERY single ingredient comes from- it's frusterating. I definitely do not want to support China or any other country like that. I feel more comfortable buying food/other things from free countries only that have regulations/etc. That being said, the US is definitely not perfect though
You've stated that before. China, like Russia and other former Eastern Bloc countries, hasn't qualified as a "communist" country for a very long time. The introduction of a "social market economy" under Deng Xiaoping, with privately owned enterprises, has made China such an economic powerhouse.
China's failure to regulate foodstuffs and other products has little or nothing to do with communism. It would be better to state that you won't buy products from a country where political repression, religious persecution, discrimination against minorities, illegal organ transplants, etc., are prevalent.


Unfortunately, food scandals seem to be unavoidable wherever controls aren't stringent enough. Adulterated olive oil cost lives in Spain in the 1980s, Italy had its wine stretched with anti-freeze, Britain its BSE.....
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Vietnam did, too. As I remember it, too many Vietnamese were eating cats, which led to a major rodent plague, so the government urged people to eat rats. rather than cats.


You've stated that before. China, like Russia and other former Eastern Bloc countries, hasn't qualified as a "communist" country for a very long time. The introduction of a "social market economy" under Deng Xiaoping, with privately owned enterprises, has made China such an economic powerhouse.
China's failure to regulate foodstuffs and other products has little or nothing to do with communism. It would be better to state that you won't buy products from a country where political repression, religious persecution, discrimination against minorities, illegal organ transplants, etc., are prevalent.


Unfortunately, food scandals seem to be unavoidable wherever controls aren't stringent enough. Adulterated olive oil cost lives in Spain in the 1980s, Italy had its wine stretched with anti-freeze, Britain its BSE.....


DItto that ...

Oh and thank you for the politics lesson as I dont keep up and thought China was the largest communist country
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Vietnam did, too. As I remember it, too many Vietnamese were eating cats, which led to a major rodent plague, so the government urged people to eat rats. rather than cats.


You've stated that before. China, like Russia and other former Eastern Bloc countries, hasn't qualified as a "communist" country for a very long time. The introduction of a "social market economy" under Deng Xiaoping, with privately owned enterprises, has made China such an economic powerhouse.
China's failure to regulate foodstuffs and other products has little or nothing to do with communism. It would be better to state that you won't buy products from a country where political repression, religious persecution, discrimination against minorities, illegal organ transplants, etc., are prevalent.

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yep that is true, about the rats and cats.
but if you go outside of few areas in china such as HK(which is on its way out,being replaced with shanghai), shanghai, suzhou, shenzhen then you will find that the communist is still alive and doing just fine. dont let a few area of some what free enterprise fool you for a min. The govt is still fully communist at this time.

oh here is good story.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6540157.stm
rat posion in people food.
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Vietnam did, too. As I remember it, too many Vietnamese were eating cats, which led to a major rodent plague, so the government urged people to eat rats. rather than cats.


You've stated that before. China, like Russia and other former Eastern Bloc countries, hasn't qualified as a "communist" country for a very long time. The introduction of a "social market economy" under Deng Xiaoping, with privately owned enterprises, has made China such an economic powerhouse.
China's failure to regulate foodstuffs and other products has little or nothing to do with communism. It would be better to state that you won't buy products from a country where political repression, religious persecution, discrimination against minorities, illegal organ transplants, etc., are prevalent.


Unfortunately, food scandals seem to be unavoidable wherever controls aren't stringent enough. Adulterated olive oil cost lives in Spain in the 1980s, Italy had its wine stretched with anti-freeze, Britain its BSE.....
That is an interesting take on it- thanks for pointing that out Next time i will have to point it out for those reasons as well.
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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
That is an interesting take on it- thanks for pointing that out Next time i will have to point it out for those reasons as well.
Mind you, the Communist Party is still in full political control, but the economic system has changed, so it's not on a par with Cuba or North Korea. There have also been some recent changes made to the one-child policy, for example, that indicate that even the CP isn't as fossilized as it used to be.
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