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post #31 of 48
Originally Posted by Anakat View Post
Just the same stuff you want to know I expect, ie do they import ingredients? if so where from and how safe are they? Thanks.
Ok i've made a note of that
post #32 of 48
FWIW: http://www.fda.gov/ora/fiars/ora_import_ia9926.html
post #33 of 48
Thanks Tricia, i'll mention those and ask if they want them sent on.
post #34 of 48
Originally Posted by Rosiemac View Post
Thanks Tricia, I'll mention those and ask if they want them sent on.
There are some more links, but there's so much bickering and flaming going on at European sites I've checked out that it's hard to sort out what is reliable info, and what's not.
post #35 of 48
Nothing back from Affinity
post #36 of 48
Thread Starter 
I have had nothing either!
post #37 of 48
I don't know what it means for those of you in Europe because I don't know how they differ in their supplys or manufacturing but I just heard that Purina is issuing a recall on some of their foods here in the U.S. If my cats weren't so picky and such dry kibble addicts I would be making my own food for them.
post #38 of 48
Originally Posted by Sophie's Mum View Post
This is my first time post on any forum site but I am so devasted at the loss of my beloved cat Sophie who was almost 12. She died yesterday after a very distressing four days of watching her suffer kidney failure and other organ breakdown. Her vet had never seen such a rapid decline in a healthy cat who had so much time left and so much love to give. Her death was very unexpected even by the vet. The reason for my post here is that late last year (2006) I started to feed her on Purina gravy foil satchets – "As Good As It Looks." She really seemed to enjoy this brand even though I was alarmed at the way the food she left would turn so hard and dry and even blocked up the sink! This particular gravy version has strangely disappeared from the store's shelves (both supermarkets and pet stores!) in the past couple of months. Friends in the USA who were concerned for Sophie's health, have informed me of the terrible crisis that is currently raging with regard to food recall. I cannot believe that Europe's animal food standards are higher than the USA and so would like to know if any other cat owner's currently share my distress and shock at the sudden loss of their pet and what can we do to prevent other beloved pets suffering so much. We are very concerned for our other two other cats who have followed the same diet as Sophie. She was until very recently an extremely active and healthy member of our family and we will miss her terribly.
So sorry to hear this- hopefully Sophie is running free over rainbow bridge
post #39 of 48
I have personally checked with the Royal Canin Region rep here (as opposed to the Local country manager) and have been assured that none of their cat/dog foods contain anything that comes from China. So, I'm pretty much reassured - I know who to call and attack if any of my cats start to fail....
post #40 of 48
Thread Starter 
This is the reply I had this afternoon from Purina Europe:

"Thank you for contacting us with your concerns regarding the recent recall in the USA.

On March 30, 2007, Nestlé Purina USA announced a voluntary recall of all sizes and varieties of its ALPO® Prime Cuts in Gravy wet dog food with specific date codes. The Company took this voluntary action after learning on 30.3.07 that wheat gluten containing melamine, a substance not approved for use in food, was provided to Nestlé Purina USA by the same company that also supplied Menu Foods. The contamination occurred in a limited production quantity at only one of Nestlé Purina USA’s 17 pet food manufacturing facilities.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced on 30th March the finding of melamine in products related to the March 16 Menu Foods recall, and advised Nestlé Purina USA of the source of the contaminated supply. Nestlé Purina USA then determined that it had received some quantity from the suspect supplier, informed the FDA and immediately began a recall process.

Importantly, NO Nestlé Purina Europe brand wet or dry or snacks pet food products are affected by this North American only voluntary recall. Nor is any pet food product involved in this recall exported to or sold in Europe. Nestlé Purina Europe’s wheat gluten suppliers have confirmed that our wheat gluten originates only from European sources and that it is not mixed with any other non European source of wheat gluten. In addition, our suppliers have also confirmed that no additives are mixed with this European sourced wheat gluten.

At Nestlé Purina, nothing is more important to us than the health and well-being of the pets whose nutrition has been entrusted to us by their owners, and we deeply regret this unfortunate situation in the USA.

Nestlé Purina will continue to take any and all actions necessary to ensure the quality and safety of our products.

We hope that we have reassured you regarding this matter and if we can be of any further assistance then please do not hesitate to contact us again. "

That seems to say that we are safe in Europe, for the moment. I have not heard from RC yet.
post #41 of 48
http://www.favv-afsca.fgov.be/home/p...u_foods_nl.pdf Anybody speak Flemish? I can only get the gist of it.
At last some official confirmation that recalled Nutro did find its way onto European shelves. Belgium imported 40 cases, and the announcement says 3,440 cases with the relevant dates were imported into Europe.
Here's the link in French: http://www.afsca.be/home/press/doc07...u_foods_fr.pdf
post #42 of 48
Hi Susan, did you get time to phone the Arden Grange people?
post #43 of 48
Still nothing back from Affinity - I will give them a gentle reminder tomorrow
post #44 of 48
Originally Posted by jennyranson View Post
This is the reply I had this afternoon from Purina Europe:
Jenny i got the same e-mail as you

Originally Posted by Anakat View Post
Hi Susan, did you get time to phone the Arden Grange people?
Yes i rang them just after 9.a.m and i really like the sound of them Anne I explained our concerns over this food situation, and she fully understood. She spoke to the nutritionist who was just heading into a meeting as it happend to do a press conference on it to reassure people, but said to bear with her and once the report was done she was going to ring me towards the end of the week to go over any concerns i had.

She also said that dolphin meat has been said to be a concern along with vitamin D, both of which are NOT used in their foods along with the wheat gluten.

She's sending me some samples off in the meantime Anne so pm me your address and i'll send you half to try, Ann i'll send you some as well
post #45 of 48
Brilliant, I felt they were a small enough firm to care about what they made.
post #46 of 48
Thanks to everyone for your kind words with regard to my beloved Sophie. Whilst my cynicism is still high I appreciate all of your attempts to clarify the regulations of European pet food manufacturers and from now on I
will check labels on food very carefully for the sake of my other cats.
post #47 of 48
Heres the reply from Affinity - I dont quite like the tone to be honest

thank you very much for your email.

There is no doubt you can go on trusting in the quality of all of our products.
We can assure you that
- our company is based in Spain and all our products ara manufactured in western Europe
The wheat gluten we use as ingredient is originating from and produced in countries of the European community.
- Our company is not ordering goods from the USA or from Canada, nor ingredients nor finished products.
- Not one single recalled product belongs to an Affinity brand

Best regards,

Roger Loffler
consumer care center
post #48 of 48
Thread Starter 
I knew we were right to beware of complacency! Tricia, I emailed you I couldn't open the link,but I succeeded from the post! You are basically right in what you say - Belgium has imported 40 cases of Choice Complete in different flavours etc, but so far no one knows where they have been sent on sale and the company has not provided any extra information. However, Europe as a whole has imported 3440 cases, and there is no information on where all this is. Cat owners are asked to check their purchases of American-produced catfood to see if Menu foods are involved and for the relevant dates of expiry (between 03/12/2008 and 07/03/3009. This only applies to the 85 gm cans.

So they are throwing the onus onto us, the owners!
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